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	<title>Comments on: Merry Christmas from the Frozen North</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath and Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop,

Get a life. Local weather over a week is NOT climate or any indication of climate.

Snowfall over one winter is NOT an indication of climate either. Climate and the long term health of the Antarctic and Arctic regions are determined more by the depth and condition of the old (5 yr and longer) ice. New snow and ice is much less dense, less stable, and far more prone to melting than is older ice.

Climate is the long term average weather. The average being the the determinative word there. An average includes extremes of highs and lows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath and Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop,</p>
<p>Get a life. Local weather over a week is NOT climate or any indication of climate.</p>
<p>Snowfall over one winter is NOT an indication of climate either. Climate and the long term health of the Antarctic and Arctic regions are determined more by the depth and condition of the old (5 yr and longer) ice. New snow and ice is much less dense, less stable, and far more prone to melting than is older ice.</p>
<p>Climate is the long term average weather. The average being the the determinative word there. An average includes extremes of highs and lows.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461486</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30 - Paddy-RAMBO

&gt;&gt;But not the falling temps.

What falling temps?  The cold weather in Seattle over the past few days?

Are you really still pimping that discredited theory that global warming is a communist plot?  Sheesh.

Other than that demented weatherman who started The Weather Channel, and a couple of hacks on the petro-payroll, the concensus is in.  And your side lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30 &#8211; Paddy-RAMBO</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;But not the falling temps.</p>
<p>What falling temps?  The cold weather in Seattle over the past few days?</p>
<p>Are you really still pimping that discredited theory that global warming is a communist plot?  Sheesh.</p>
<p>Other than that demented weatherman who started The Weather Channel, and a couple of hacks on the petro-payroll, the concensus is in.  And your side lost.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461480</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30--Paddy-O==explain the rising ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30&#8211;Paddy-O==explain the rising ocean.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461476</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 29 bobbo said,  &quot;It seems increased snow is a result of global warming.&quot;

But not the falling temps.

Nice try.  Would you like the box of Rice-a-Roni mailed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 29 bobbo said,  &#8220;It seems increased snow is a result of global warming.&#8221;</p>
<p>But not the falling temps.</p>
<p>Nice try.  Would you like the box of Rice-a-Roni mailed?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461453</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27--Paddy-O==I googled (&quot;increased snow&quot; antarctica &quot;global warming&quot;) and the second entry is:

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/27/antarctic-ice-a-global-warming-snow-job/

It seems increased snow is a result of global warming.

Read-Learn-change your mind.

Hard to change a mind if you don&#039;t have one and don&#039;t do the first two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27&#8211;Paddy-O==I googled (&#8221;increased snow&#8221; antarctica &#8220;global warming&#8221;) and the second entry is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/27/antarctic-ice-a-global-warming-snow-job/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/27/antarctic-ice-a-global-warming-snow-job/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/27/antarctic-ice-a-global-warming-snow-job/</a></p>
<p>It seems increased snow is a result of global warming.</p>
<p>Read-Learn-change your mind.</p>
<p>Hard to change a mind if you don&#8217;t have one and don&#8217;t do the first two?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461448</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27--Paddy==I CHALLENGE YOU and any other climate change truther to deny that  right now ocean level is the best directly observable measurement of net/net/net global warming/cooling effects.  THE OCEAN IS RISING.  Net global warming cannot be denied except by kneejerk idiots and those in the pay of evil saliva drooling oil greed heads.

As to the level/amount of ice anywhere==local variation.  Please provide a link to any authority stating the climate model ((of which there are many )) specifically predicts the snow pack anywhere on earth.

Stooge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27&#8211;Paddy==I CHALLENGE YOU and any other climate change truther to deny that  right now ocean level is the best directly observable measurement of net/net/net global warming/cooling effects.  THE OCEAN IS RISING.  Net global warming cannot be denied except by kneejerk idiots and those in the pay of evil saliva drooling oil greed heads.</p>
<p>As to the level/amount of ice anywhere==local variation.  Please provide a link to any authority stating the climate model ((of which there are many )) specifically predicts the snow pack anywhere on earth.</p>
<p>Stooge.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461440</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 25 bobbo said,  &quot;Paddy–to what do you attribute the 6 centimetre ocean rise over the last decade to?&quot;

What do you attribute the 11 year increase in Antarctic ice cap &amp; lower temps there, directly in conflict of the global warming predictions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 25 bobbo said,  &#8220;Paddy–to what do you attribute the 6 centimetre ocean rise over the last decade to?&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you attribute the 11 year increase in Antarctic ice cap &amp; lower temps there, directly in conflict of the global warming predictions?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461410</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy-RAMBO

Give it up, dude.  All your base are belong to us.  You&#039;ve got to know when to hold &#039;em, know when to fold &#039;em, know when to walk away, know when to run.

Now would be the time to run, LOLcat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy-RAMBO</p>
<p>Give it up, dude.  All your base are belong to us.  You&#8217;ve got to know when to hold &#8216;em, know when to fold &#8216;em, know when to walk away, know when to run.</p>
<p>Now would be the time to run, LOLcat.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461389</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24--Paddy==I don&#039;t know the model that well, do you?  I thought not.

&quot;AVERAGE GLOBAL WARMING&quot; with lots of up&#039;s and down&#039;s and local variation.

Paddy--to what do you attribute the 6 centimetre ocean rise over the last decade to?  You Repuglicans can moan that much, but not piss that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24&#8211;Paddy==I don&#8217;t know the model that well, do you?  I thought not.</p>
<p>&#8220;AVERAGE GLOBAL WARMING&#8221; with lots of up&#8217;s and down&#8217;s and local variation.</p>
<p>Paddy&#8211;to what do you attribute the 6 centimetre ocean rise over the last decade to?  You Repuglicans can moan that much, but not piss that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461386</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 23 bobbo said,  &quot;Hey Paddy and Ah-Yea==when the MODEL that predicts...&quot;

Umm, where does the model predict cooling for the majority of the planet &amp; the 11 year increase in the Antarctic ice cap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 23 bobbo said,  &#8220;Hey Paddy and Ah-Yea==when the MODEL that predicts&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm, where does the model predict cooling for the majority of the planet &amp; the 11 year increase in the Antarctic ice cap?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461384</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paddy and  Ah-Yea==when the MODEL that predicts the general trend of global warming also predicts localized extremes in weather, how does snow in NO do anything but validate the model and thereby the prediction???

You dopes can&#039;t juggle two ideas at one time.  The only controversy is whether or not the global warming is human caused to such a degree that money would be well spent limiting carbon pollution.  To transform that limited issue into denying the greater context is truly retarded.

Repuglican = Retarded Douche Bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paddy and  Ah-Yea==when the MODEL that predicts the general trend of global warming also predicts localized extremes in weather, how does snow in NO do anything but validate the model and thereby the prediction???</p>
<p>You dopes can&#8217;t juggle two ideas at one time.  The only controversy is whether or not the global warming is human caused to such a degree that money would be well spent limiting carbon pollution.  To transform that limited issue into denying the greater context is truly retarded.</p>
<p>Repuglican = Retarded Douche Bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461380</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 21 Mister Mustard said,  &quot;Yeah, when there’s snow at the same lattitude as International Falls MN, that marks the end of the myth of global warming.&quot;

No, more like snow in New Orleans before winter even arrives...  Like happened this year, twice.

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 21 Mister Mustard said,  &#8220;Yeah, when there’s snow at the same lattitude as International Falls MN, that marks the end of the myth of global warming.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, more like snow in New Orleans before winter even arrives&#8230;  Like happened this year, twice.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461377</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18 - #20

Yeah, when there&#039;s snow at the same lattitude as International Falls MN, that marks the end of the myth of global warming.

HAW!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18 &#8211; #20</p>
<p>Yeah, when there&#8217;s snow at the same lattitude as International Falls MN, that marks the end of the myth of global warming.</p>
<p>HAW!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1461353</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 18 Ah_Yea said,  &quot;Good by and good riddance to Global Warming.&quot;

Cooling is the new warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 18 Ah_Yea said,  &#8220;Good by and good riddance to Global Warming.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cooling is the new warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2008/12/25/merry-christmas-from-the-frozen-north/comment-page-1/#comment-1460891</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t sure if you were going to be able to make it there in time; congrats!

Best wishes to you and yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t sure if you were going to be able to make it there in time; congrats!</p>
<p>Best wishes to you and yours.</p>
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