Cooked Sushi. WTF?

Published on December 27th, 2008

Posted by Eideard in Recipe Nook

Saw this while grocery shopping, this morning.

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# 1 big deal? said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:07 am

not all sushi is made of raw ingredients nowadays…

# 2 Rhymenoceros said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:13 am

The word “Sushi” simply refers to vinegared rice and has no connection to what you put on it.

# 3 heehee said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:14 am

The english translation of sushi = bait

# 4 bobbo said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:14 am

After mixing quality white and red wine together at sophisticated tastings, I enjoy ordering my sushi “well done.” Idiot asshole people always provide their uninformed opinions on how bad this is to do.

“Some” sushi that is cooked is merely called “teriyaki.” ((Not specifically actually true but most critics of haute cuisine aren’t sure enough to contradict.))

The only correct response: try it, you might like it.

# 5 bobbo said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:17 am

#2–Rhino==

: cold rice dressed with vinegar, formed into any of various shapes, and garnished especially with bits of raw seafood or vegetables

I guess it comes down to how much emphasis you put on “especially.”

# 6 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:21 am

Play it safe. Get the sashimi. That way, you’re not paying top dollar for balled-up rice.

# 7 bobbo said, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:30 am

#6–Mr Wasabi==THAT is excellent advice. I knew that at one time, but had forgotten. Thanks for the refresher. There is an “all you can eat Sushi Bar” a block from my house. They should be more accurate and just say “Cold Rice Bowl.”

and Mr. Rhymenoceros==you have created one of the most clever nicks I have seen. Why did you not post:

The word “Sushi” simply refers to vinegared rice,
and has no connection to what you put on it,
but always quite nice.

Get with the program.

# 8 Special Ed said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:17 am

My tape worm loves sushi!

# 9 Cursor_ said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:18 am

Sushi originally was fermented fish, chemically cooked by the fermenting rice it was packed in for journey.

The fish was eaten and the rice discarded.

Over time people sped up teh process by weighing down and the later adding vinegar to it for even faster sushi. At these times people started the eat the rice with the fish.

In the 1800’s a sushi started to be made in the traditional rolls with raw fish that we know today. An earthquake then spread the technique all over the island as people picked up and relocated.

There is still old fashioned sushi that is chemically cooked. It is a favourite of the elderly as it carries little risk to eat.

So a fully cooked sushi is more than possible. What is REALLY scary is that Wal-Mart has a frozen sushi already preformed. Can you imagien the texture of thawed rolled sushi?????

Cursor_

# 10 Angel H. Wong said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:29 am

Bah, I prefer seafood Caribbean style.

# 11 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:30 am

#9 – Cursor_

>>There is still old fashioned sushi that is
>>chemically cooked. It is a favourite of the
>>elderly as it carries little risk to eat.

It’s also a favorite among Kuzconians like ‘dro, under its modern-day moniker: CEVICHE.

YUM! You can get a styrofoam box full of it on Calle Ocho for $4.99. YUM!

# 12 Cursor_ said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:37 am

#11

Yep people around the med have been doing that since they found bad wine made great vinegar.

Myself I like using lime more than straight vinegar if I make it.

And have made my own hayasushi (the cooked with vinegar stuff) before. I don’t eat the raw stuff because I cannot get the fresh from the water stuff without it having way too much local pollution from yard runoff. Too many chances that they chemlawn using morons have contamined the water near the shore.

If I can’t get it to my mouth within two hours, I don’t want it raw.

Cursor_

# 13 Troublemaker said, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:53 am

Yeah, some sushi like California rolls, shrimp and eel are cooked.

You idiots need to get out more often…

# 14 Ron Larson said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:04 am

One time I was in rural Connecticut where I saw a grocery store advertising “Free Range Lettuce”.

# 15 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:07 am

#12 – Cursor_

>>If I can’t get it to my mouth within two
>>hours, I don’t want it raw.

Your loss, then. Not even the Nips eat it within two hours. The fishing trip takes longer than that.

>>Yep people around the med have been doing
>>that since they found bad wine made great
>>vinegar.

They must have given it up, then. I’m not aware of any marinated “raw” fish dishes from the Mediterranean region. They’ve been doing it in Kuzconia since pre-Incan times, and exclusively with citrus; never vinegar. Ecchh!

# 16 Cursor_ said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:35 am

#15 Then you never had boquerones.

That’s the most popular raw sardine dish you can get in Spain.

You vinegar them, then pack them in olive oil, add garlic and parley and bingo.

There are Italian version of this, greek, Turk, etc.

Anywhere there is a coastline there is some sort of perserved fish that never touched heat.

I mean even the fetid lutefisk is salted and soaked in lye but never touches heat until someone has already soaked the lye out.

Salted, dry and pickled fish is all over.

Cursor_

# 17 Angel H. Wong said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:43 am

#15

“Your loss, then. Not even the Nips eat it within two hours. The fishing trip takes longer than that.”

You ain’t seen South Koreans slicing the freshly caught fish alive and then eating the still wiggling slices with some kimchi.

# 18 MotaMan said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:45 am

Mexicans have a variant of sushi called Ceviche, raw fish/shrimp cooked in lime juice.

# 19 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am

#16 – Cursor_

>>Then you never had boquerones.

Sure I have, but that’s just a snack, an appetizer, an hors d’œuvre, a picadita. I wasn’t too keen on it though. Sardines are not my favorite fish.

# 20 hhopper said, on December 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Cripes! I just learned more about raw fish than I ever wanted to know. What about the parasites?

# 21 Special Ed said, on December 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

#20 – The parasites are generally elected to Congress. On the low end are the welfare recipients.

# 22 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

#20 – hhopper

>>What about the parasites?

Most salt-water fish do not have parasites. And most commercially available fish are “flash-frozen” when they’re caught (even “fresh” fish), which kills the parasites.

So no problem. Order the sashimi, and enjoy!!

# 23 Mr. Fusion said, on December 27th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

#20, Hopper,

I’m with you. Maybe when someone comes along with “frozen Breaded sushi sticks” I’ll try it. Until then I stick with stuff that moos, oinks, baas, or clucks for my protein.

# 24 hhopper said, on December 27th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

We catch a lot of fish in the inland waterway that are called Drum and they’re loaded with parasites. I just don’t trust raw fish, chicken or pork.

# 25 richardbt71 said, on December 27th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

#18 MotaMan-

Ceviche is nothing like sushi. Just because both use raw fish, doesn’t make it similar.

# 26 deowll said, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Anyone who thinks freezing or even salt curing is going to get all parasites has parasites.

Many bacteria could care less. Many worms have eggs that are tough enough to take it.

# 27 Mister Mustard said, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

#26 – deowll

>>Anyone who thinks freezing or even salt
>>curing is going to get all parasites has
>>parasites.

I’m afraid you’re the one with the parasites, son. Would you care to name just a few that can survive a bout with -109F dry ice?

# 28 Steve said, on December 27th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

I’m gonna try makin’ me some chicken sashimi.

# 29 zombieball said, on December 28th, 2008 at 3:37 am

#15
Guess it all depends upon when you start your timer then:
-2 hrs from fish being caught = gotta be the fisherman himself to eat that fish in time!
-2 hrs from fish being killed… entirely possible to find fish like this in fishermen markets (as you pointed out).

# 30 Cursor_ said, on December 28th, 2008 at 3:45 am

#25

I will agree that Edomae-sushi (what most westerners THINK is sushi) is nothing like ceviche.

But haya-sushi, especially biwa, is exactly like ceviche as rice vinegar is used to pickle it.

And there are still dishes around asia that pickle the fish in rice over a long period of time. And that was and still is the original sushi. The fresh stuff with pickled rice is just the most modern incarnation of the dish.

Cursor_

# 31 Mister Mustard said, on December 28th, 2008 at 6:23 am

#30 – Cursor_

>>But haya-sushi, especially biwa, is exactly
>>like ceviche as rice vinegar is used to
>>pickle it.

Rice vinegar is not used to pickle ceviche. Lime or lemon juice is.

# 32 Cursor_ said, on December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 am

#34

Ok you need to pick a nit and have done so.

Acid is used in all pickling dishes. Whether that pickling comes from citrus or vinegar is immaterial.

The idea is that old forms of sushi used an acid to “cook” the fish. And so does ceviche use the same method.

The idea is one of those that was dreamed up by people despite not having any scoial networking to cross the vast distances between them.

Cursor_

# 33 masahiko noguchi said, on February 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

This is the first time me to see a Japanese sushi in Slovakia. Even in Slovakia, sushi is growing up same as Moscow, Russia ! It is all over the world now. I am a Japanese who is living in the US today for last 35 years. The sushi is very big in Los Angeles, US too. I think there are over 16,000 of Japanese restaurant in the US today !!! That’s wat I said big today. Also my wife is taking anonline sh-school to leans, “HOW TO MAKE SSHI AT HOLE” and learning of Japanese culture and history now. The shool site named: http://www.sushitrainer.com. They are very good and the ssushi-school has contains mover than 250 lessons for world widely. YOu people shoul visit this sushi-school site at onve, you will love it !!!