Comments on: CES is as Dull as Predicted http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:26:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Borat http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468410 Borat Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:07:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468410 Is this "queen" that Adam is going to meet in San Francisco? Is this “queen” that Adam is going to meet in San Francisco?

]]> By: FRAGaLOT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468091 FRAGaLOT Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:42:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468091 I highly doubt Toshiba putting CELL chips into their new TV will turn them into video game consoles. The Cell chips have been touted as powerful scalable CPUs by Sony long before the PS3 was even in the market. But hardly anyone else has had any interest in using the Cell in their product, probably since there are cheaper alternatives. Toshiba will like use the chip (probably single core versions) for video and/or audio processing for their new HDTVs, and up-conversion for DVDs. Which is what the PS3 is already doing with DVDs and BluRay. But seeing Sony's brain child being used for mundane tasks like this really does put hamper on how good the Cell CPU is supposed to be. I bet an Atom chip could do this with how much problem, and consume less power too! I highly doubt Toshiba putting CELL chips into their new TV will turn them into video game consoles. The Cell chips have been touted as powerful scalable CPUs by Sony long before the PS3 was even in the market. But hardly anyone else has had any interest in using the Cell in their product, probably since there are cheaper alternatives.

Toshiba will like use the chip (probably single core versions) for video and/or audio processing for their new HDTVs, and up-conversion for DVDs. Which is what the PS3 is already doing with DVDs and BluRay.

But seeing Sony’s brain child being used for mundane tasks like this really does put hamper on how good the Cell CPU is supposed to be. I bet an Atom chip could do this with how much problem, and consume less power too!

]]> By: BigBoyBC http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468088 BigBoyBC Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:38:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468088 I wonder if the Queen invited Adam Curry to meet her so she could "Bitch Slap" him? Can't wait to hear about it from Adam... I wonder if the Queen invited Adam Curry to meet her so she could “Bitch Slap” him?

Can’t wait to hear about it from Adam…

]]> By: BigBoyBC http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468085 BigBoyBC Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:36:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468085 Nice benchmarking Somebody_Else, I'm currently running the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate, it's runs really great. Nice benchmarking Somebody_Else,

I’m currently running the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate, it’s runs really great.

]]> By: ColdInCanada http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468082 ColdInCanada Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:34:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468082 Does John not realize that Cisco bought Linksys? They are using the Linksys brand to slowly move Cisco into the retail market by co-branding the products. Does John not realize that Cisco bought Linksys? They are using the Linksys brand to slowly move Cisco into the retail market by co-branding the products.

]]> By: Somebody_Else http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468042 Somebody_Else Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:34:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468042 #10 I've run it on machines as slow as a laptop with a 1.7 GHz Pentium M and 512 MB of RAM. It was very slow to boot up (just like XP), but once you were at the desktop it was perfectly fine for office applications and web browsing. It would even play a few fairly modern games like Age of Empires III. More RAM gives Vista more room for superfetch, but the OS itself doesn't need a whole lot more than XP. Not to toot my own horn, but I just did some benchmarks comparing 64-Bit XP an 64-Bit Vista and posted it on the [H] forum: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1381631 #10
I’ve run it on machines as slow as a laptop with a 1.7 GHz Pentium M and 512 MB of RAM. It was very slow to boot up (just like XP), but once you were at the desktop it was perfectly fine for office applications and web browsing. It would even play a few fairly modern games like Age of Empires III. More RAM gives Vista more room for superfetch, but the OS itself doesn’t need a whole lot more than XP.

Not to toot my own horn, but I just did some benchmarks comparing 64-Bit XP an 64-Bit Vista and posted it on the [H] forum:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1381631

]]> By: Paddy-O http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468026 Paddy-O Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:14:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468026 # 9 Somebody_Else said, "The common perception of Vista is that its slow and bloated (even though its not, its faster than XP in many cases)," Not unless you are using A LOT more H/W. Throw it on a 1 gig machine that XP runs fast on and Vista CRAWLS. So, beef up the H/W (more $) and Vista runs as fast as XP with no further benefits. That's why MS is basically killing off Vita later this year... # 9 Somebody_Else said, “The common perception of Vista is that its slow and bloated (even though its not, its faster than XP in many cases),”

Not unless you are using A LOT more H/W.

Throw it on a 1 gig machine that XP runs fast on and Vista CRAWLS.

So, beef up the H/W (more $) and Vista runs as fast as XP with no further benefits. That’s why MS is basically killing off Vita later this year…

]]> By: Somebody_Else http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468023 Somebody_Else Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:09:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468023 #4 A clean install of the latest Windows 7 build takes up slightly more space than Vista. 7 is bascially Vista with some performance enhancements and some new interface stuff. The official system requirements for 7 are identical to Vista. Not saying that Vista is a bad OS, I'm quite happy with it, I just think its interesting how these trends develop out of misinformation. The common perception of Vista is that its slow and bloated (even though its not, its faster than XP in many cases), while Windows 7 is "Vista done right" even though its barely any faster. #4
A clean install of the latest Windows 7 build takes up slightly more space than Vista. 7 is bascially Vista with some performance enhancements and some new interface stuff. The official system requirements for 7 are identical to Vista.

Not saying that Vista is a bad OS, I’m quite happy with it, I just think its interesting how these trends develop out of misinformation. The common perception of Vista is that its slow and bloated (even though its not, its faster than XP in many cases), while Windows 7 is “Vista done right” even though its barely any faster.

]]> By: Charbax http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1468015 Charbax Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:00:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1468015 How about claiming that Microsoft is falling apart since they are also laying people off? Also, why don't you promounce Google is falling appart since Google is cutting off a bunch of software contractors? You should rather say that Silicon Valley is falling apart, every company in Silicon Valley is firing people. Nobody is able to get any funds anymore. In fact the USA is falling apart. How about claiming that Microsoft is falling apart since they are also laying people off?

Also, why don’t you promounce Google is falling appart since Google is cutting off a bunch of software contractors?

You should rather say that Silicon Valley is falling apart, every company in Silicon Valley is firing people. Nobody is able to get any funds anymore. In fact the USA is falling apart.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467992 pedro Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:55:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467992 BTW, there goes Ballmer saying they'll go after Yahoo, again...oy! BTW, there goes Ballmer saying they’ll go after Yahoo, again…oy!

]]> By: QB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467825 QB Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:40:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467825 Wow, CES and BCS on the same day. It's like the seventh ring of hell. Wow, CES and BCS on the same day. It’s like the seventh ring of hell.

]]> By: Obvious1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467801 Obvious1 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:09:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467801 Was at CES today and anyone who doubts the Recession has hit the consumer electronics industry should go there. No idea what the attendance is this year but I've been going for close to a decade now, and first thing in the morning on the first day South Hall is always a mob scene. Today? Plenty of strolling room. Companies have cut way WAY back on promo items, they seem to have figured out that t-shirts don't bring them any increase in business. Very weird at huckster booths like Creative, which is usually one huge shill show hustling people from one exhibit to another in other to fulfill some obligation to vie for prizes; this year rather than pimping all Creative's wonderful toys, their "show" featured a guy explaining why some chip that will eventually come out - with a weird stem cell analogy - will change the face of computing. That was it. One door prize, no admonition to check out Show Specials because as far as I could tell there weren't any. Etc. Every booth was like that. Microsoft, which usually has all kinds of weird giveaways, was pretty much display only with not much emphasis on previously predominant Microsoft partners. If you strolled casually through MS' booth, you'd probably get the idea they sold flat screen TVs. Strangely, the exhibitors generally seemed really upbeat. No idea why. Weirdest booth was NBC-Universal. I don't recall them being at the show before, but they held a "contest" where they gave out a large book-of-matches looking thing and you threw it down on a "Microsoft screen" (maybe they do sell flatscreens...) to find out if you'd "won." Of course, everybody "won." Inside every "matchbook" was a really tiny flash drive, which you then took to a kiosk to select promotional material (I picked the Wanted videogame promo) to put on your flashdrive. So it was one big gimmick to get people to look at their promo videos. So why'd they restrict to one? My drive was 2 gigs - very cool, and thanks, NBC-U - and the promo was maybe a tenth that. Why didn't they let people fill their sticks with ads? Oh well. But that's the kind of show it was. Was at CES today and anyone who doubts the Recession has hit the consumer electronics industry should go there. No idea what the attendance is this year but I’ve been going for close to a decade now, and first thing in the morning on the first day South Hall is always a mob scene. Today? Plenty of strolling room. Companies have cut way WAY back on promo items, they seem to have figured out that t-shirts don’t bring them any increase in business. Very weird at huckster booths like Creative, which is usually one huge shill show hustling people from one exhibit to another in other to fulfill some obligation to vie for prizes; this year rather than pimping all Creative’s wonderful toys, their “show” featured a guy explaining why some chip that will eventually come out – with a weird stem cell analogy – will change the face of computing. That was it. One door prize, no admonition to check out Show Specials because as far as I could tell there weren’t any. Etc. Every booth was like that. Microsoft, which usually has all kinds of weird giveaways, was pretty much display only with not much emphasis on previously predominant Microsoft partners. If you strolled casually through MS’ booth, you’d probably get the idea they sold flat screen TVs. Strangely, the exhibitors generally seemed really upbeat. No idea why. Weirdest booth was NBC-Universal. I don’t recall them being at the show before, but they held a “contest” where they gave out a large book-of-matches looking thing and you threw it down on a “Microsoft screen” (maybe they do sell flatscreens…) to find out if you’d “won.” Of course, everybody “won.” Inside every “matchbook” was a really tiny flash drive, which you then took to a kiosk to select promotional material (I picked the Wanted videogame promo) to put on your flashdrive. So it was one big gimmick to get people to look at their promo videos. So why’d they restrict to one? My drive was 2 gigs – very cool, and thanks, NBC-U – and the promo was maybe a tenth that. Why didn’t they let people fill their sticks with ads? Oh well. But that’s the kind of show it was.

]]> By: The0ne http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467786 The0ne Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:59:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467786 Been running Windows7 for a week now and I like it. I don't like Vista at all but so far 7 is looking good. It's about half the size of Vista when installed so that's already a plus for me. I'll be running some apps to see if there's really any difference in performance or if it's as John had said in his PC column. Lenevo is going to cut 11% (9000) of the workfoce. More and more companies are downsizing, not a good thing. Logitech surprised me with their layoff. I thought they were doing well. Been running Windows7 for a week now and I like it. I don’t like Vista at all but so far 7 is looking good. It’s about half the size of Vista when installed so that’s already a plus for me. I’ll be running some apps to see if there’s really any difference in performance or if it’s as John had said in his PC column.

Lenevo is going to cut 11% (9000) of the workfoce. More and more companies are downsizing, not a good thing. Logitech surprised me with their layoff. I thought they were doing well.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467758 pedro Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:07:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467758 I was wondering when would the death of the OLPC (dead before it came out) be declared. Hopefully, they'll all get a clue. I was wondering when would the death of the OLPC (dead before it came out) be declared. Hopefully, they’ll all get a clue.

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/comment-page-1/#comment-1467747 sargasso Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:44:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/08/ces-is-as-dull-as-predicted/#comment-1467747 WiFi (IEEE 802.11n) has potential, but I just don't see any ISPs rolling it out while DSL still has a load of unused bandwidth. Packet Shaping and WOC are now in infrastructure WAN, it's only a matter of time before similar optimization algorithms hit domestic DSL boxes. WiFi (IEEE 802.11n) has potential, but I just don’t see any ISPs rolling it out while DSL still has a load of unused bandwidth. Packet Shaping and WOC are now in infrastructure WAN, it’s only a matter of time before similar optimization algorithms hit domestic DSL boxes.

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