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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1470381</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 65 MikeN said,  &quot;Agreed it is possible for Obama to fix the economy. However, he appears to be trying the FDR path...&quot;

Add to this that his plan will tank the Dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 65 MikeN said,  &#8220;Agreed it is possible for Obama to fix the economy. However, he appears to be trying the FDR path&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Add to this that his plan will tank the Dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469475</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63, f*ckedup,

&lt;i&gt;Me owning this blog is worth less and less every day&lt;/i&gt;

Ya right, just like your &quot;protein cell&quot;. 

&lt;i&gt;Honestly, it’s just time to name this place after me. &lt;/i&gt;

What? &quot;Jimy Heel&#039;s Toilet Bowl of Protein Cells?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63, f*ckedup,</p>
<p><i>Me owning this blog is worth less and less every day</i></p>
<p>Ya right, just like your &#8220;protein cell&#8221;. </p>
<p><i>Honestly, it’s just time to name this place after me. </i></p>
<p>What? &#8220;Jimy Heel&#8217;s Toilet Bowl of Protein Cells?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469368</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed it is possible for Obama to fix the economy.  However, he appears to be trying the FDR path when he should be following the path of Warren Harding(minus the scandal).  Harding also inherited an economy with a significant contraction.  

After 8 years FDR still had a 20% unemployment rate, though he was politically very successful, giving Democrats over 300 House seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed it is possible for Obama to fix the economy.  However, he appears to be trying the FDR path when he should be following the path of Warren Harding(minus the scandal).  Harding also inherited an economy with a significant contraction.  </p>
<p>After 8 years FDR still had a 20% unemployment rate, though he was politically very successful, giving Democrats over 300 House seats.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469359</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;m confused.  Was Bill Clinton lying or telling the truth when he bombed Iraq and said it was to take out Saddam&#039;s WMDs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m confused.  Was Bill Clinton lying or telling the truth when he bombed Iraq and said it was to take out Saddam&#8217;s WMDs?</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469300</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me owning this blog is worth less and less every day, too. The last three posts are evidence of this: Defending Bill and failing to knock Bush just isn&#039;t that interesting anymore.

You guys have lost, as it is now fact that a liberal can only win as a populist, and can do nothing more than bring the right into his cabinet and propose jobs programs.

Honestly, it&#039;s just time to name this place after me. Worship is mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me owning this blog is worth less and less every day, too. The last three posts are evidence of this: Defending Bill and failing to knock Bush just isn&#8217;t that interesting anymore.</p>
<p>You guys have lost, as it is now fact that a liberal can only win as a populist, and can do nothing more than bring the right into his cabinet and propose jobs programs.</p>
<p>Honestly, it&#8217;s just time to name this place after me. Worship is mandatory.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469222</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardly Bill Clinton&#039;s only lie.  Indeed the whole investigation was pursued so vigorously by Ken Starr because he had tape recordings and because it followed the pattern of Whitewater, Vernon Jordan getting a key witness a job so they would stop talking to the prosecutor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardly Bill Clinton&#8217;s only lie.  Indeed the whole investigation was pursued so vigorously by Ken Starr because he had tape recordings and because it followed the pattern of Whitewater, Vernon Jordan getting a key witness a job so they would stop talking to the prosecutor.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469216</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44Bobbo, you&#039;re right about the influence of past presidents.  I&#039;m just talking about the liberal and liberal media talking points at the time.  The recovery was all because of Bill Clinton even though it started 6 months before he was president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44Bobbo, you&#8217;re right about the influence of past presidents.  I&#8217;m just talking about the liberal and liberal media talking points at the time.  The recovery was all because of Bill Clinton even though it started 6 months before he was president.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469183</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57, loser,

&lt;i&gt;George Bush is an unpopular president. That is fact. It is opinion that he is a bad president.&lt;/i&gt;

When the empirical data demonstrates that Bush did not do a good job then it becomes a &lt;b&gt;fact&lt;/b&gt; he is a &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; President.

When his performance is compared to other Presidents then it does become an opinion of just how bad he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57, loser,</p>
<p><i>George Bush is an unpopular president. That is fact. It is opinion that he is a bad president.</i></p>
<p>When the empirical data demonstrates that Bush did not do a good job then it becomes a <b>fact</b> he is a <i>bad</i> President.</p>
<p>When his performance is compared to other Presidents then it does become an opinion of just how bad he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The terrible economy is not helping the significant Bush regime effort to improve his legacy.  He has Karl Rove and much of his cabinet on the this. 

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Operation: No, not the worst&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

NPR contest featuring Karl Rove.

&quot;Is Bush the worse president in 50 years?&quot;
http://bit.ly/A8jE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The terrible economy is not helping the significant Bush regime effort to improve his legacy.  He has Karl Rove and much of his cabinet on the this. </p>
<p><b>&#8220;Operation: No, not the worst&#8221;</b></p>
<p>NPR contest featuring Karl Rove.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is Bush the worse president in 50 years?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/A8jE" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://bit.ly/A8jE' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/A8jE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469059</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 - LiLo

Not to worry, if I make a contentions statement that I consider to be ojbectively factual, I provide a link to support it.  Otherwise, it&#039;s just my opinion.  

How the heck would I know if Bill Clinton was a shitty husband?  It&#039;s my &lt;i&gt;opinion&lt;/i&gt; that he was.  Maybe he learned some cigar tricks from his time with Monica that he brought home to Hill, and kept her on such an unending rollercoaster ride of ecstasy that she didn&#039;t give a shit WHO he was diddling under the desk at work.

That George Bush is a shitty president is also my opinion, although it&#039;s one of those things that, while not formally proven, has such prima facie validity that it&#039;s generally accepted as fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 &#8211; LiLo</p>
<p>Not to worry, if I make a contentions statement that I consider to be ojbectively factual, I provide a link to support it.  Otherwise, it&#8217;s just my opinion.  </p>
<p>How the heck would I know if Bill Clinton was a shitty husband?  It&#8217;s my <i>opinion</i> that he was.  Maybe he learned some cigar tricks from his time with Monica that he brought home to Hill, and kept her on such an unending rollercoaster ride of ecstasy that she didn&#8217;t give a shit WHO he was diddling under the desk at work.</p>
<p>That George Bush is a shitty president is also my opinion, although it&#8217;s one of those things that, while not formally proven, has such prima facie validity that it&#8217;s generally accepted as fact.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56, Bill Clinton was a &lt;i&gt;popular&lt;/i&gt; president.  That is fact.  It is opinion that he was a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; president.

George Bush is an &lt;i&gt;unpopular&lt;/i&gt; president.  That is fact. It is opinion that he is a &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; president.

Please don&#039;t confuse fact and opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56, Bill Clinton was a <i>popular</i> president.  That is fact.  It is opinion that he was a <i>good</i> president.</p>
<p>George Bush is an <i>unpopular</i> president.  That is fact. It is opinion that he is a <i>bad</i> president.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t confuse fact and opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#55 - Bobo

Well, so far, the only dishonesty you have accused Clinton of relates to his cock.

Heck, if stepping out on their wives were the worst things politicians ever did, we&#039;d be living in Utopia, in nirvana, in paradise, in dramland, in Shangi-la, in seventh heaven.

Give it a rest, Bobster.  Clinton was a good president, shitty husband.  Try to argue beyond that, and you&#039;re going to have to whip out your prestidigitational punctuation, and tase our brains into incomprehension with a flurry of === and /// and ==///.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#55 &#8211; Bobo</p>
<p>Well, so far, the only dishonesty you have accused Clinton of relates to his cock.</p>
<p>Heck, if stepping out on their wives were the worst things politicians ever did, we&#8217;d be living in Utopia, in nirvana, in paradise, in dramland, in Shangi-la, in seventh heaven.</p>
<p>Give it a rest, Bobster.  Clinton was a good president, shitty husband.  Try to argue beyond that, and you&#8217;re going to have to whip out your prestidigitational punctuation, and tase our brains into incomprehension with a flurry of === and /// and ==///.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sad when word association tangents pass for insight.

I made no comparison at all between Clinton and BushtheRetards honesty.

Dallas--my obsession was about demanding honesty in our political leaders.  If all you get out of that is cock, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a smile on your face.  Rather round, but still a smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad when word association tangents pass for insight.</p>
<p>I made no comparison at all between Clinton and BushtheRetards honesty.</p>
<p>Dallas&#8211;my obsession was about demanding honesty in our political leaders.  If all you get out of that is cock, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a smile on your face.  Rather round, but still a smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469021</link>
		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg.  The republicans are still obsessing over Bill&#039;s cock.
Let it go! It&#039;s been a decade for crying out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg.  The republicans are still obsessing over Bill&#8217;s cock.<br />
Let it go! It&#8217;s been a decade for crying out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/09/economy-continues-to-circle-the-bowl/comment-page-2/#comment-1469008</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 - Bobo

Can you make the distinction between some guy that cheats on his wife and then gets sucked into a tangled web trying to cover it up, and someone who runs the country under a web of lies and deceit, whose entire work ethic is based on dishonesty, and who has misled the entire nation for as long as he&#039;s been in office?

In the former case, I&#039;d be pissed if I were that person&#039;s wife.  Maybe even if I were his mother-in-law.  If he were my car mechanic, my dentist, a member of the City Council, or the president of the United States, I really wouldn&#039;t give a shit.  Even if, during the bitter sequelae of the infidelity, he sought to avoid the wrath of his battle-axe wife by perpetuating his fiction.  As long as he fixes my car and keeps my pearly whites pearly white, he can do whatever he needs to do in his off hours.

In the latter case, I&#039;d seek to put him in the stockade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 &#8211; Bobo</p>
<p>Can you make the distinction between some guy that cheats on his wife and then gets sucked into a tangled web trying to cover it up, and someone who runs the country under a web of lies and deceit, whose entire work ethic is based on dishonesty, and who has misled the entire nation for as long as he&#8217;s been in office?</p>
<p>In the former case, I&#8217;d be pissed if I were that person&#8217;s wife.  Maybe even if I were his mother-in-law.  If he were my car mechanic, my dentist, a member of the City Council, or the president of the United States, I really wouldn&#8217;t give a shit.  Even if, during the bitter sequelae of the infidelity, he sought to avoid the wrath of his battle-axe wife by perpetuating his fiction.  As long as he fixes my car and keeps my pearly whites pearly white, he can do whatever he needs to do in his off hours.</p>
<p>In the latter case, I&#8217;d seek to put him in the stockade.</p>
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