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	<title>Comments on: Crummy Contaminated Fake Honey Transshipped to USA from China</title>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There use to be a lot of bees here in San Diego county, including the lovely bumblebee. Now you be lucky to find a few. Many things play a part, much of it around my area has been housing development where canyons are destroyed and rivers made extincted.

Bee&#039;s were so plentiful in the early 80&#039;s that we, as kids, could go out to a park and get some nice raw honey. Yes, it can be dangerous if you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing but that&#039;s beside the point :) As in the movie &quot;Bee&quot; less bees = less pollination = less plants :)

I actually have a friend in China who has a sister starting at a university studying Bees. Sadly, she is only using that subject to get into the university and hopefully will change later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There use to be a lot of bees here in San Diego county, including the lovely bumblebee. Now you be lucky to find a few. Many things play a part, much of it around my area has been housing development where canyons are destroyed and rivers made extincted.</p>
<p>Bee&#8217;s were so plentiful in the early 80&#8217;s that we, as kids, could go out to a park and get some nice raw honey. Yes, it can be dangerous if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing but that&#8217;s beside the point <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  As in the movie &#8220;Bee&#8221; less bees = less pollination = less plants <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I actually have a friend in China who has a sister starting at a university studying Bees. Sadly, she is only using that subject to get into the university and hopefully will change later on.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[off topic]

#24, Mr. Fusion, exactly right!  What would real homemade mayo be without some spicy mustard?

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<p>#24, Mr. Fusion, exactly right!  What would real homemade mayo be without some spicy mustard?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21, bobbo,

&lt;i&gt;Many Mayo recipes do call for a bit of Mustard == certainly not the amount dolloped out on this website.&lt;/i&gt;

HEY, c&#039;mon now, who doesn&#039;t like a little mustard? I&#039;m a brown mustard kind myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21, bobbo,</p>
<p><i>Many Mayo recipes do call for a bit of Mustard == certainly not the amount dolloped out on this website.</i></p>
<p>HEY, c&#8217;mon now, who doesn&#8217;t like a little mustard? I&#8217;m a brown mustard kind myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF? #12 Frank cites a Wall Street Journal article about Chinese drywall poisoning homes in South Florida and my mind boggled! How can it possibly be cheaper to ship heavy, relatively fragile, damaged-by-water-or-even-heavy-humidity drywall ten thousand or fourteen thousand miles from China to South Florida than to use American-made stuff? 

It seems to me that even if the stuff were free on the docks, shipping that distance should cost more than the stuff sells for here. Am I that far off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF? #12 Frank cites a Wall Street Journal article about Chinese drywall poisoning homes in South Florida and my mind boggled! How can it possibly be cheaper to ship heavy, relatively fragile, damaged-by-water-or-even-heavy-humidity drywall ten thousand or fourteen thousand miles from China to South Florida than to use American-made stuff? </p>
<p>It seems to me that even if the stuff were free on the docks, shipping that distance should cost more than the stuff sells for here. Am I that far off?</p>
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		<title>By: KD Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally Off Topic---

Mr. Fusion, bobbo, I left &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/10/immoral-advances-is-science-out-of-control/comment-page-4/#comment-1470280&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something for you&lt;/a&gt; here at #165 and #168.

And now, back to our regular programming.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally Off Topic&#8212;</p>
<p>Mr. Fusion, bobbo, I left <a href="http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/10/immoral-advances-is-science-out-of-control/comment-page-4/#comment-1470280" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">something for you</a> here at #165 and #168.</p>
<p>And now, back to our regular programming.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Mayo recipes do call for a bit of Mustard == certainly not the amount  dolloped out on this website.

In fact, &quot;Good Eats&quot; which more than any other show, specializes in the chemistry of cooking and Alton Brown adds a bit of Mustard==all to help emulsify the oil and egg.  Many recipes do not use mustard stating that is what the egg yolk with an addition of lemon juice/vinegar is better at doing.

Whatever--the directions are easy, but I&#039;m missing some elusive &quot;something&quot; to make it pleasurable and to use fewer eggs.  From the Epicurous website from an unrelated thread, I got the idea it might be the fact I use eggs directly from the refrigerator.

So many variables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Mayo recipes do call for a bit of Mustard == certainly not the amount  dolloped out on this website.</p>
<p>In fact, &#8220;Good Eats&#8221; which more than any other show, specializes in the chemistry of cooking and Alton Brown adds a bit of Mustard==all to help emulsify the oil and egg.  Many recipes do not use mustard stating that is what the egg yolk with an addition of lemon juice/vinegar is better at doing.</p>
<p>Whatever&#8211;the directions are easy, but I&#8217;m missing some elusive &#8220;something&#8221; to make it pleasurable and to use fewer eggs.  From the Epicurous website from an unrelated thread, I got the idea it might be the fact I use eggs directly from the refrigerator.</p>
<p>So many variables.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Mustard said,

#15 - Bobbo

&gt;&gt;it “breaks” into a soupy mess before enough
&gt;&gt;oil is added

That’s because you left out the MUSTARD.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Har!



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mr. Mustard said,</p>
<p>#15 &#8211; Bobbo</p>
<p>>>it “breaks” into a soupy mess before enough<br />
>>oil is added</p>
<p>That’s because you left out the MUSTARD.
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<p>Har!</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18--Greg==could you spell this out more?  I&#039;m thinking you mean the items were actually made in China--shipped to Mexico for sale in America--but the excess was shipped to Pakistan==all showing the economics of scale and how cheap container shipping is?

Doesn&#039;t mean anything if the items were actually made in Mexico?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18&#8211;Greg==could you spell this out more?  I&#8217;m thinking you mean the items were actually made in China&#8211;shipped to Mexico for sale in America&#8211;but the excess was shipped to Pakistan==all showing the economics of scale and how cheap container shipping is?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean anything if the items were actually made in Mexico?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in Pakistan I noted how many items had &quot;Made in Mexico&quot; printed on them. I mean LOTS of stuff -- sometimes even well-known brand names.

It seemed odd that Pakistan would import so much stuff from Mexico. Finally, I figured out that these were destined for sale in America, via Mexico, under NAFTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in Pakistan I noted how many items had &#8220;Made in Mexico&#8221; printed on them. I mean LOTS of stuff &#8212; sometimes even well-known brand names.</p>
<p>It seemed odd that Pakistan would import so much stuff from Mexico. Finally, I figured out that these were destined for sale in America, via Mexico, under NAFTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 - Bobbo

&gt;&gt;it “breaks” into a soupy mess before enough 
&gt;&gt;oil is added 

That&#039;s because you left out the MUSTARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 &#8211; Bobbo</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;it “breaks” into a soupy mess before enough<br />
&gt;&gt;oil is added </p>
<p>That&#8217;s because you left out the MUSTARD.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 6 soundwqash said,  &quot;further along, since beekeepers tend to use corn syrup to feed them in transit and given the proliferation of GMO corn (and its subsidies - amongst other things)&quot;

I know a beekeeper in CA who produces a lot of specialty honey (apple, orange, etc).  They aren&#039;t fed in transit as there are frames in the bottom box for the bees to store their honey in.  Only the &quot;supers&quot; have the honey that is taken from the hive.

I&#039;ve never seen ANY domestic honey sold in the supermarket that is &quot;cut&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 6 soundwqash said,  &#8220;further along, since beekeepers tend to use corn syrup to feed them in transit and given the proliferation of GMO corn (and its subsidies &#8211; amongst other things)&#8221;</p>
<p>I know a beekeeper in CA who produces a lot of specialty honey (apple, orange, etc).  They aren&#8217;t fed in transit as there are frames in the bottom box for the bees to store their honey in.  Only the &#8220;supers&#8221; have the honey that is taken from the hive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen ANY domestic honey sold in the supermarket that is &#8220;cut&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made my own mayo about 10-12  times.  It always tastes very good but it &quot;breaks&quot; into a soupy mess before enough oil is added making a successful batch very heavy on eggs and more expensive as a result.  ((When it breaks, just start over with a fresh egg yolk and treat the soup mixture as you &quot;oil&quot; and rebuild your emulsion.--no waste, just frustration.))

I&#039;ve gone back to store bought and  the taste is worth the convenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made my own mayo about 10-12  times.  It always tastes very good but it &#8220;breaks&#8221; into a soupy mess before enough oil is added making a successful batch very heavy on eggs and more expensive as a result.  ((When it breaks, just start over with a fresh egg yolk and treat the soup mixture as you &#8220;oil&#8221; and rebuild your emulsion.&#8211;no waste, just frustration.))</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone back to store bought and  the taste is worth the convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: Named</title>
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		<dc:creator>Named</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11,

I do 99% of my cooking manually.  Mayonnaise was my one mother sauce I left to the corporations.  And they&#039;ve failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11,</p>
<p>I do 99% of my cooking manually.  Mayonnaise was my one mother sauce I left to the corporations.  And they&#8217;ve failed.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the early 1900&#039;s it was predicted that in the future &quot;War&quot; would be based on economics.

This War has come and the USA is losing because we haven&#039;t made the &quot;paradigm shift&quot; necessary to change with the changing realities.  Its why we are still buying and designing the 3-4th generation of stealth combat vehicles instead of building a core of foreign speaking intelligence agents---etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early 1900&#8217;s it was predicted that in the future &#8220;War&#8221; would be based on economics.</p>
<p>This War has come and the USA is losing because we haven&#8217;t made the &#8220;paradigm shift&#8221; necessary to change with the changing realities.  Its why we are still buying and designing the 3-4th generation of stealth combat vehicles instead of building a core of foreign speaking intelligence agents&#8212;etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this story about Chinese drywall:

Chinese Drywall Cited in Building Woes

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123171862994672097.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this story about Chinese drywall:</p>
<p>Chinese Drywall Cited in Building Woes</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123171862994672097.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123171862994672097.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123171862994672097.html</a></p>
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