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	<title>Comments on: NSA&#8217;s Wiretapping of Americans being outsourced to Israeli Companies?!?!</title>
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		<title>By: jealousmonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jealousmonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure conspiracy (and probably TRUE) but... &quot;Fabled Enemies&quot; says this has been going on all along.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure conspiracy (and probably TRUE) but&#8230; &#8220;Fabled Enemies&#8221; says this has been going on all along.</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407</a></p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol..this is news? -

this is nothing but a sham cover story
for the  brainwashed public.

Israel has been spying on us in coordintaion
with (and without) the NSA for years..since 
before 9/11. this story just makes it all nice and tidy.
-so when we use Israel (or israel uses us) as a stepping stone
and backup to go into iran later this month, the &quot;intell&quot; to qualify 
it wont be questioned too much..if at all.

talk about short memories... 

anyone remember who/what AMDOCS Inc does/is?  (google it) 
-israeli based telecom that handles ALL the billing info/call data 
for the US and many other countries? 
this news broke shortly after 9/11, 
then vanished..-accused of spying on the US 
amongst other things..like warning WTC 
israeli companies of 9/11, but no one else, yada yada..

a little trip down memory lane...

here: educate yourself and refresh your memories. 
this is the 4 part fox news story [in one clip, 19min] 
that broke about this back in 2001-2002 or so about AMDOC, 
israeli spying and other stuff that started connecting 
dots between israel &amp; 9/11. 

http://video.google.comvideoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&amp;hl=en-AU

then later, in 2006 USA Today broke the huge story about Bush
denying the fact that he was tapping just about anything he could get his 
grimy little  hands on, (at least until he could all the major Bells immunity)
-along with revelations that the NSA had been doing this since 
the 70&#039;s..which led to the *empty - no court order required*
FISA act? 

Qwest was the only &quot;patriot&quot; amongst them and wouldnt give up 
its records or allow the taps...which ofc, led to it&#039;s CEO Joe Nacchio, 
resigning on some trump up financial health charges, &quot;the powers that be&quot; 
created, no doubt..

[found the USA Today article:] 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm

i think the John Pollard moussad spy scandal was loosly tied to this iirc,
(who btw, Our lord and new savour of change, the great 
Obama, has agreed to Pardon shortly after taking office) 

-what, surprised? he was payed a heap of cash 
to stack his cabinet with the most finatical Pro-Israel 
fanatics money can buy...

oh and that quip at the end of the you tube clip above
about a &quot;special submarine&quot; that can tap (and cut) submerged
cables... -that would be that specially modified Seawolf Class sub,
USS Jimmy Carter (SSN-23) its about 100ft longer than the other two 
seawolf class subs we have due to the addition of a special
Multi-Mission Platform section that allows the deployment of ROV&#039;s
and other nifty toys specifically for undersea cable splicing/cutting
and planting listening devices etc...

it&#039;ll be just like old times with the USSR... ;p

take a peak at the details here: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter

-wonder where it was when those submarine cable got cut back when 
iran was about to inaugurate it&#039;s PetroEuro Dollar Oil Borse..*rolling eyes*

sad to say, but faith in our elected officials to actually do 
whats best for America, started to head downhill in 1913.
-they have been pulling the wool over our eyes ever since.

lastly, -anyone who thinks israel is the *only* innocent one in 
this current conflict really needs to dig through history 
and get a clue..before they outlaw access to all historical and 
declassified documents to the public once and for all..

the NWO would require nothing less..

for the youngens...Start with the USS Liberty..
*something has to shake the braindead masses out 
of this trance-like moral insanity that is spreading like wildfire..
...something, -anything.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol..this is news? -</p>
<p>this is nothing but a sham cover story<br />
for the  brainwashed public.</p>
<p>Israel has been spying on us in coordintaion<br />
with (and without) the NSA for years..since<br />
before 9/11. this story just makes it all nice and tidy.<br />
-so when we use Israel (or israel uses us) as a stepping stone<br />
and backup to go into iran later this month, the &#8220;intell&#8221; to qualify<br />
it wont be questioned too much..if at all.</p>
<p>talk about short memories&#8230; </p>
<p>anyone remember who/what AMDOCS Inc does/is?  (google it)<br />
-israeli based telecom that handles ALL the billing info/call data<br />
for the US and many other countries?<br />
this news broke shortly after 9/11,<br />
then vanished..-accused of spying on the US<br />
amongst other things..like warning WTC<br />
israeli companies of 9/11, but no one else, yada yada..</p>
<p>a little trip down memory lane&#8230;</p>
<p>here: educate yourself and refresh your memories.<br />
this is the 4 part fox news story [in one clip, 19min]<br />
that broke about this back in 2001-2002 or so about AMDOC,<br />
israeli spying and other stuff that started connecting<br />
dots between israel &amp; 9/11. </p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.comvideoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&#038;hl=en-AU" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://video.google.comvideoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&#038;hl=en-AU' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://video.google.comvideoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&#038;hl=en-AU</a></p>
<p>then later, in 2006 USA Today broke the huge story about Bush<br />
denying the fact that he was tapping just about anything he could get his<br />
grimy little  hands on, (at least until he could all the major Bells immunity)<br />
-along with revelations that the NSA had been doing this since<br />
the 70&#8242;s..which led to the *empty &#8211; no court order required*<br />
FISA act? </p>
<p>Qwest was the only &#8220;patriot&#8221; amongst them and wouldnt give up<br />
its records or allow the taps&#8230;which ofc, led to it&#8217;s CEO Joe Nacchio,<br />
resigning on some trump up financial health charges, &#8220;the powers that be&#8221;<br />
created, no doubt..</p>
<p>[found the USA Today article:]<br />
<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm</a></p>
<p>i think the John Pollard moussad spy scandal was loosly tied to this iirc,<br />
(who btw, Our lord and new savour of change, the great<br />
Obama, has agreed to Pardon shortly after taking office) </p>
<p>-what, surprised? he was payed a heap of cash<br />
to stack his cabinet with the most finatical Pro-Israel<br />
fanatics money can buy&#8230;</p>
<p>oh and that quip at the end of the you tube clip above<br />
about a &#8220;special submarine&#8221; that can tap (and cut) submerged<br />
cables&#8230; -that would be that specially modified Seawolf Class sub,<br />
USS Jimmy Carter (SSN-23) its about 100ft longer than the other two<br />
seawolf class subs we have due to the addition of a special<br />
Multi-Mission Platform section that allows the deployment of ROV&#8217;s<br />
and other nifty toys specifically for undersea cable splicing/cutting<br />
and planting listening devices etc&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;ll be just like old times with the USSR&#8230; ;p</p>
<p>take a peak at the details here:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter</a></p>
<p>-wonder where it was when those submarine cable got cut back when<br />
iran was about to inaugurate it&#8217;s PetroEuro Dollar Oil Borse..*rolling eyes*</p>
<p>sad to say, but faith in our elected officials to actually do<br />
whats best for America, started to head downhill in 1913.<br />
-they have been pulling the wool over our eyes ever since.</p>
<p>lastly, -anyone who thinks israel is the *only* innocent one in<br />
this current conflict really needs to dig through history<br />
and get a clue..before they outlaw access to all historical and<br />
declassified documents to the public once and for all..</p>
<p>the NWO would require nothing less..</p>
<p>for the youngens&#8230;Start with the USS Liberty..<br />
*something has to shake the braindead masses out<br />
of this trance-like moral insanity that is spreading like wildfire..<br />
&#8230;something, -anything.</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 28 Greg Allen said,  &quot;I am convinced that my phone calls and emails were illegally monitored by the Bush Administration when I lived overseas.&quot;

Based on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 28 Greg Allen said,  &#8220;I am convinced that my phone calls and emails were illegally monitored by the Bush Administration when I lived overseas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Based on?</p>
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		<title>By: McCullough</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/13/nsas-wiretapping-of-americans-being-outsourced-to-israel/comment-page-2/#comment-1470990</link>
		<dc:creator>McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26. Would it make you feel better if it were Germany, or Mexico? Would that be OK with you. But since its Israel its Jew Baiting...yeah. What the hell is wrong with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26. Would it make you feel better if it were Germany, or Mexico? Would that be OK with you. But since its Israel its Jew Baiting&#8230;yeah. What the hell is wrong with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Deep-Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep-Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business as usual. The Israelis have the best surveillance equipment or backdoors therefore. (aka. supplying Parts)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business as usual. The Israelis have the best surveillance equipment or backdoors therefore. (aka. supplying Parts)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am convinced that my phone calls and emails were illegally monitored by the Bush Administration when I lived overseas.  I don&#039;t think I was personally targeted but, best I can tell, any American living in the countries I did had their civil rights violated.

I don&#039;t want this to go away just because Bush&#039;s term is over. I demand to know who violated my civil rights, who ordered it and why.  I don&#039;t need to see the behind bars but I demand that the full truth be told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced that my phone calls and emails were illegally monitored by the Bush Administration when I lived overseas.  I don&#8217;t think I was personally targeted but, best I can tell, any American living in the countries I did had their civil rights violated.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want this to go away just because Bush&#8217;s term is over. I demand to know who violated my civil rights, who ordered it and why.  I don&#8217;t need to see the behind bars but I demand that the full truth be told.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 4 Paddy-O said,
&lt;blockquote&gt;# 2 Jeff said, “We have been doing this for years. It is pretty easy to get by most US statutes when you hire foreign help.”

Correct. The Brits help us out a lot in this area.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Har!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 4 Paddy-O said,</p>
<blockquote><p># 2 Jeff said, “We have been doing this for years. It is pretty easy to get by most US statutes when you hire foreign help.”</p>
<p>Correct. The Brits help us out a lot in this area.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Har!</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Minatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Minatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job there, McCullough. Shilling for a known Jew-baiter popular with the Alex &quot;Asshole&quot; Jones crowd. Well done. Do you have any 9/11 troofer videos to promote, McCullough?

&lt;strong&gt;[Sure, would you like some Lou - ed.]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job there, McCullough. Shilling for a known Jew-baiter popular with the Alex &#8220;Asshole&#8221; Jones crowd. Well done. Do you have any 9/11 troofer videos to promote, McCullough?</p>
<p><strong>[Sure, would you like some Lou - ed.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: dig</title>
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		<dc:creator>dig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like it&#039;s something that came up a few yrs ago with a company named Amdocs.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html

Google &quot;Amdocs spying&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like it&#8217;s something that came up a few yrs ago with a company named Amdocs.</p>
<p><a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html</a></p>
<p>Google &#8220;Amdocs spying&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GetSmart</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 How about posting your full name, address, phone number, SSN, birthdate, credit card #&#039;s, your bank accounts, driver&#039;s license number and any other personal details that an identity thief might find handy? You just might be astounded at how much the &quot;average person&quot; really does have to hide. Like that family history of colon cancer. I mean you would like to get health insurance now, wouldn&#039;t you? I&#039;m sure there are just days and days of other examples as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 How about posting your full name, address, phone number, SSN, birthdate, credit card #&#8217;s, your bank accounts, driver&#8217;s license number and any other personal details that an identity thief might find handy? You just might be astounded at how much the &#8220;average person&#8221; really does have to hide. Like that family history of colon cancer. I mean you would like to get health insurance now, wouldn&#8217;t you? I&#8217;m sure there are just days and days of other examples as well.</p>
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		<title>By: robojamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>robojamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a perfect example of the difference between the tolerant/post-modern society and the intolerant society. 

In China they understand that their internet is filtered and that their traffic is being monitored and if they want to do something that is not allowed they have to seek other means to do it (VPN, Proxy). In the United States we have an illusion of an open internet with a tolerant facade that masks some pretty nasty stuff. Which is worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a perfect example of the difference between the tolerant/post-modern society and the intolerant society. </p>
<p>In China they understand that their internet is filtered and that their traffic is being monitored and if they want to do something that is not allowed they have to seek other means to do it (VPN, Proxy). In the United States we have an illusion of an open internet with a tolerant facade that masks some pretty nasty stuff. Which is worse?</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched it. I don&#039;t think they care what you think unless you do more than moan about it. Just be careful what you say all the time everywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched it. I don&#8217;t think they care what you think unless you do more than moan about it. Just be careful what you say all the time everywhere</p>
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		<title>By: B. Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video is no longer available-- censorship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video is no longer available&#8211; censorship?</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t forget that about 90% of all North American wired and wireless phone accounts are maintained, billed and provisioned via a software infrastructure made by Amdocs, which also happens to be an Israeli company. All the major carriers use it. Just Google &quot;Amdocs conspiracy&quot; and see what you come up with... It&#039;s virtually impossible to make a phone call in the US without creating an Amdocs call record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t forget that about 90% of all North American wired and wireless phone accounts are maintained, billed and provisioned via a software infrastructure made by Amdocs, which also happens to be an Israeli company. All the major carriers use it. Just Google &#8220;Amdocs conspiracy&#8221; and see what you come up with&#8230; It&#8217;s virtually impossible to make a phone call in the US without creating an Amdocs call record.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18

Chances are that they already did, why do you think they are doing all these atrocities and all the U.S. government is doing is pleading like a little girl rather than a man with goose egg-sized balls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18</p>
<p>Chances are that they already did, why do you think they are doing all these atrocities and all the U.S. government is doing is pleading like a little girl rather than a man with goose egg-sized balls?</p>
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