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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471609</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19 ECA It&#039;s an example of the laughably flawed logic often seen on these pages that goes like this: &quot;How can you possibly consider working on problem X when problem Y is so much bigger.&quot;  Like the concept of delegation and multi-tasking is some kind of inscrutable quantum physics.

ie: &lt;i&gt;The report concluded that the problem of bullying among children, both online and offline, poses a far more serious challenge than the sexual solicitation of minors by adults.&lt;/i&gt;

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19 ECA It&#8217;s an example of the laughably flawed logic often seen on these pages that goes like this: &#8220;How can you possibly consider working on problem X when problem Y is so much bigger.&#8221;  Like the concept of delegation and multi-tasking is some kind of inscrutable quantum physics.</p>
<p>ie: <i>The report concluded that the problem of bullying among children, both online and offline, poses a far more serious challenge than the sexual solicitation of minors by adults.</i></p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471420</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media full of BS. No couldn&#039;t be !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media full of BS. No couldn&#8217;t be !</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471359</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;One out of every 3 youth has encountered unwanted sexual material while online (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006).
Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ).&quot;&quot;

AND HOw does this rank with a FAMILY member, soliciting or RAPING a child in FAMILY..Uncle/aunt, father/mother, Brother/sister,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;One out of every 3 youth has encountered unwanted sexual material while online (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006).<br />
Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ).&#8221;"</p>
<p>AND HOw does this rank with a FAMILY member, soliciting or RAPING a child in FAMILY..Uncle/aunt, father/mother, Brother/sister,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471258</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And maybe we can get our money back on this study. Or is it simply a matter of whomever publishes last is right?

&lt;i&gt;44% of online aggressive sexual solicitations of youths are now coming from other youths under age 17 that the victim knows in real life (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA). &lt;/i&gt;

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And maybe we can get our money back on this study. Or is it simply a matter of whomever publishes last is right?</p>
<p><i>44% of online aggressive sexual solicitations of youths are now coming from other youths under age 17 that the victim knows in real life (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA). </i></p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471253</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully we now can also ignore these problems because it&#039;s been determined that the problem of bullying among children, both online and offline, poses a far more serious challenge:

More than one fourth (27%) of teens report that they have talked online about sex with someone they have never met in person (Teen Research Unlimited, &quot;Topline Findings from Omnibuzz Research.&quot; October 2005). 

81% of parents of online teens say that teens aren&#039;t careful enough when giving out information about themselves online and 79% of online teens agree with this (Pew Internet and American Life Project, &quot;Protecting Teens Online&quot;. March 17, 2005). 

40% of online sexual solicitations of youth begin with an Instant Message (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). 

About one-third of youth (34%) admit to regularly communicating online with people they did not know in person (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). 

45% of aggressive sexual solicitations (in which the solicitor requests contact with the child in real life) happens to youth when they were online with their friends (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). 

One out of every 3 youth has encountered unwanted sexual material while online (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006).
Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin - #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). 

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully we now can also ignore these problems because it&#8217;s been determined that the problem of bullying among children, both online and offline, poses a far more serious challenge:</p>
<p>More than one fourth (27%) of teens report that they have talked online about sex with someone they have never met in person (Teen Research Unlimited, &#8220;Topline Findings from Omnibuzz Research.&#8221; October 2005). </p>
<p>81% of parents of online teens say that teens aren&#8217;t careful enough when giving out information about themselves online and 79% of online teens agree with this (Pew Internet and American Life Project, &#8220;Protecting Teens Online&#8221;. March 17, 2005). </p>
<p>40% of online sexual solicitations of youth begin with an Instant Message (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). </p>
<p>About one-third of youth (34%) admit to regularly communicating online with people they did not know in person (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). </p>
<p>45% of aggressive sexual solicitations (in which the solicitor requests contact with the child in real life) happens to youth when they were online with their friends (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006). Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). </p>
<p>One out of every 3 youth has encountered unwanted sexual material while online (Wolak, J., Mitchell, K., &amp; Finkelhor, D. (2006).<br />
Online victimization of youth: Five years later. National Center for Missing &amp; Exploited Children Bulletin &#8211; #07-06-025. Alexandria, VA ). </p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471224</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14, bobbo,

So now we know where to find you when you aren&#039;t here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14, bobbo,</p>
<p>So now we know where to find you when you aren&#8217;t here.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471218</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 14
Bobbo you got to stop doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 14<br />
Bobbo you got to stop doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471178</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.  I think the danger is real and overwhelming.

The data is clear: go online posing as a 12 year old and surf to &quot;Ilovemesomeyoungstuffdotcom&quot; and it won&#039;t  be longer than a few weeks before someone will want to make a date with you.

Guaranteed--100% of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  I think the danger is real and overwhelming.</p>
<p>The data is clear: go online posing as a 12 year old and surf to &#8220;Ilovemesomeyoungstuffdotcom&#8221; and it won&#8217;t  be longer than a few weeks before someone will want to make a date with you.</p>
<p>Guaranteed&#8211;100% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m old enough to be pretty used to the hyped-up scare of new problems.

Remember all the fear about &quot;crack babies&quot; who were supposedly all destined to be psychopath killers?  The fear level over this has very high when crack was a new phenomenon. It ends up that fetal alcohol syndrome is still worse. (or so I understand).

The issues of ritual child abuse and  &quot;repressed memory syndrome&quot; were also WAY overhyped for a while.

Typically, there is a real issue and a real danger but way way over hyped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m old enough to be pretty used to the hyped-up scare of new problems.</p>
<p>Remember all the fear about &#8220;crack babies&#8221; who were supposedly all destined to be psychopath killers?  The fear level over this has very high when crack was a new phenomenon. It ends up that fetal alcohol syndrome is still worse. (or so I understand).</p>
<p>The issues of ritual child abuse and  &#8220;repressed memory syndrome&#8221; were also WAY overhyped for a while.</p>
<p>Typically, there is a real issue and a real danger but way way over hyped.</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Quantum</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E. Quantum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There IS online danger for the pervy old guys who think they are communicating with 13 year old girls, but really are online with THE MAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There IS online danger for the pervy old guys who think they are communicating with 13 year old girls, but really are online with THE MAN.</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
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		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just didn&#039;t see it either. As much hype as it gets you&#039;d expect that every other kid was being abused. It&#039;s like the gun control nuts who act like everyone they know is getting killed by a handgun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just didn&#8217;t see it either. As much hype as it gets you&#8217;d expect that every other kid was being abused. It&#8217;s like the gun control nuts who act like everyone they know is getting killed by a handgun.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/14/turns-out-online-danger-to-children-is-overblown-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1471108</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The end of the NYT article stated, &quot;One problem is that it is difficult to verify the ages and identities of children because they do not have driver’s licenses or insurance.&quot;

National ID cards here we come!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of the NYT article stated, &#8220;One problem is that it is difficult to verify the ages and identities of children because they do not have driver’s licenses or insurance.&#8221;</p>
<p>National ID cards here we come!</p>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that the isolation of the online sex industry into it&#039;s own domain, was most fiercely opposed by the religeous right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that the isolation of the online sex industry into it&#8217;s own domain, was most fiercely opposed by the religeous right.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turns out all dangers are overblown.  Surprised?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turns out all dangers are overblown.  Surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprised. 

Fear is THE choice strategy for governments and religious institutions to brainwash and exert control over the masses.

Ya gotta have a boogie man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised. </p>
<p>Fear is THE choice strategy for governments and religious institutions to brainwash and exert control over the masses.</p>
<p>Ya gotta have a boogie man.</p>
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