Death sentences in China tainted milk case

Published on January 22nd, 2009

Death sentences in China tainted milk case – CNN.com — We should take a lead from China as we sort out the tainted peanut butter, the financial crises, and Bernie Madoff. No?

A Chinese court sentenced Tian Wenhua, former board chairwoman and general manager of the Chinese dairy company Sanlu Group, to life in prison for her role in a tainted milk scandal that killed at least six infants and sickened nearly 300,000 others. Police surround a court building in northern China in late December during the trial.

Three people were sentenced to death and two others to life in prison for their roles, while three others received prison terms of five to 15 years each. Many of those sentenced were middlemen who sold melamine to milking stations that added the chemical to the milk.

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# 1 Jim said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 am

There’s a reason we have all these regulations — thousands upon thousands of people who died in the 19th and early 20th centuries from other people’s greed.

China is finding that out and will probably do some of the same corrections we did.

It takes major disaster for people to wake up and demand action. Sadly it will probably take another major food or drug issue here for us to enforce our regulations properly.

It’s all trust — once your trust is lost, those that try to sell you things have to regain it. If I can’t trust that my local markets are clean and sell good products, I go elsewhere. That goes for farmer’s markets as well as mega groceries.

However, the trust chain also extends to the middle men and the original providers in our world — without that chain of trust you might as well grow your own food. Which is impractical and would destroy what ecology we have left.

Glad the Chinese have the balls to actually deal with problems, rather than pat people on the wrist and call them naughty.

# 2 jimbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 1:57 am

In Ireland recently we had a warning that pork products from the south of the island were contaminated with Dioxin but only a small amount of product was contaminated with little to none of the chemical.

We were all lied to, watching politicians eating pork on tv, saying it was safe when it was in fact 300% above EU safe limits.

It was a direct result of cutting corners and using contaminated feed on animals. Then it was uncovered that cattle were infected too.

It was censored 2 days after it happened and now they ask us to help out these bast*rd farmers and suppliers because of the financial crisis.

Nobody was convicted and we were all told so “put up and shut up”…

China has the right idea, as they know what what punishment should be…well in some cases

# 3 I said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 am

The admin of this site is obviously in a bit of danger.

# 4 bobbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:48 am

JCD–I agree completely. There’s something “wrong” with a poor person busted on a $1000 car burglary sitting in jail awaiting trial for 6 months while Bernie has DESTROYED 100’s if not 1000’s of lives==and he’s out living a life better than nth% of us.

There are petty property crimes, and there are
grand larceny property crimes, and there should be
CAPITAL PROPERTY CRIMES: ruin the lives of trusting people–should be a capital offense.

So, yes, we should take the lead from China and execute a few of these financial self-dealing wizards.

# 5 jimbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 3:10 am

#3 explain?

# 6 Pko said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 3:26 am

Hey, John, don’t worry, everybody is taking lots of lead from China (in children toys’ paint, for example)

# 7 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 am

Justice = word
Truth = word

# 8 bobbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 am

#7–named==thanks. Yea, I think it all comes from our common law/judeo-christian roots wherein “theft of property” is analogized to poor people stealing bread to feed themselves and therefore somehow not so evil.

Its the rare person who will equate property acquisition to the meaning, dreams, and aspirations of a human being==and fewer still those who can balance the desire of acquisition/ownership from the self-benefits of living in a society with a large middle class.

America is failing at several key philosophical levels/values.

# 9 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 am

I still want to see high tariffs on all products coming from ANY country that does not have adequate health and safety for their workers, a fair minimum wage law, regulations similar to what our FDA provides, and pollution controls.

There is absolutely no reason we should have a race to the bottom of humanity.

# 10 killer duck said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 am

#9 not sure tariffs are the answer but you are right about the race to the bottom of humanity.

Anyone that can’t see that outsourcing our jobs and importing everything won’t eventually lead to the US being a 3rd world nation with no wealth production capability, a bunch of rich CEOs and marketing execs, and millions of unemployed people is kidding themselves.

# 11 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am

8,
Theft is still “bad”. Go rob a bank. They’ll put you away for as long as they can, since your crime constitutes one against society. BUT, if you can line politicians and lobbyists and friends with millions of dollars ahead of time, you can rob the country freely. Slowly but surely the magnitude of the thefts have been increasing… almost like Wall Street has been testing how much they can fleece before the guns start getting pulled out

9,10,

Anybody remember when FTA and Globalization were the hallmarks of civilization? And they promised us that we would all become white collar geniuses while the poor brown and yellow people in the third world would be doing that bad factory jobs?

I’m still pissed about that.

What I have learned from Globalization (other than it’s utter failure) is that there is always a cheaper, poorer country to next-source too… 5 dollars one day, 3 dollars another, until everyone is just paid in room and board…

# 12 bugeyemonster said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 am

This is the way things should be when greedy corporations/individuals cut corners to make an extra buck and people die and or suffer as a result.

In the US we reward these people with salary increases and huge bonuses and protections from criminal prosecution.

# 13 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:17 am

#9 — All the way. With that in place we could take some tax burden off our own citizens and maybe help out our own industry.

# 14 GetSmart said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 am

“Globalization” Plutocrat-speak for “Plantation Owner”

# 15 chuck said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 am

The purpose of government is to prevent the poor people from murdering the rich people.

If there were any justice, an angry mob would have torn Bernie Madoff to pieces.

# 16 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 am

# 15 chuck said, “If there were any justice, an angry mob would have torn Bernie Madoff to pieces.”

I haven’t seen mobs composed of angry rich people.

# 17 McCullough said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am

#9. I agree. But most, including our readers here, aren’t willing to give up their access to cheaply produced Chinese goods. To do so would mean stores like Walmart and online stores would have to raise prices.

I’m willing to pay more for products produced here in the US or in foreign nations under the guidelines that you have stated. I dont think it will ever fly with the sheeple though.

# 18 GetSmart said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 am

Sturgeon’s Law:
“90% of everything is crap.”
Wheeler’s Corollary:
“Except crap itself, crap is 100% crap”
And crap is about all that’s actually manufactured in the USA anymore. The rest of the crap is made elsewhere.

# 19 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am

#17, McCullough,

I dont think it will ever fly with the sheeple though.

It will to those with no jobs or about to lose a job.

# 20 Dave W said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am

#16 I haven’t seen mobs composed of angry rich people.

The people who Madoff ripped off aren’t rich anymore. .

# 21 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am

#18, NotSmart

And crap is about all that’s actually manufactured in the USA anymore.

Maybe in your shithouse, but where I live there are (or were) many places building good, quality items for sale here. Too many of them have been moved to cheaper places where they don’t need to pay a decent wage, or they can pollute the world, or kill their workers with no safety measures.

Are you a former Bush Administration employee looking for a job?

# 22 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 am

# 21 Mr. Fusion said, “Too many of them have been moved to cheaper places where they don’t need to pay a decent wage, or they can pollute the world, or kill their workers with no safety measures.”

Add in that we have one of the highest corp tax rates in the world. We need an equalizer…

# 23 amodedoma said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am

I hardly think that the Chinese have a justice system that you’d want to emmulate, find out what happend to Falun Gong, or remember Tian’anmen. They’re really into making examples of criminals, religous sects, dissidents, and students. Oh and that little organ transplant business their prison system has… Ok maybe these guys deserved it, I still wouldn’t want to live under their legal system.

# 24 bobbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:41 am

#23–amodedoma==does that mean that you don’t think that people who intentionally poison 1000’s of babies for personal profit should face capital punishment?

A guy that shoots a person in the face for his wallet is more deserving of sympathy.

# 25 soundwash said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 am

This is a good policy..

We should execute all the FDA/USDA officials found to be on the take from on the take for the current GMO/Pharm/Chemical Patent Troll fiasco.

sadly, it is most likely too late.

the FDA has never required *any* safety tests on genetically modified foods. on top of this, the bio-tech companies have never done *ANY* human trial testing.

it might be because animals fed GM crops developed potentially precancerous cell growth, smaller brains, livers and testicles, damaged immune systems, bigger livers, partial atrophy of the liver, lesions in the livers, stomachs, and kidneys, inflammation of the kidneys, problems with their blood cells, higher blood sugar levels, and unexplained increases in the death rate.

also, the bio-techs have no way of
containing (nor ever panned to) any of the gmo modified foodstuffs once its released into the wild…they’ve also developed *spermicidal* corn.. and what prey tell.. is this for?

google” “gmo spermicidal corn”, “Codex Alimentarius”, “doomsday seed vault”, “terminator seeds” and “gmo crop failures”
for small sampling of whats has already happened and what’s in store in the near future.

-this also explains in part supposed worldwide food shortages (and crop failures) that are on the horizons.. google “90 texas cotton farmers suing major biotechnology firms for crop failures” or “mexico gmo corn/maize crop failure” for another angle..

-all this to sell RoundUp ready herebicide and seed.. -they promised gmo crops would solve the world food crisis. -only to create the exact opposite..

#2
i bet they killed off your pigs to to try and sell the new tansgenic EnviroPig to your farmers.. iirc, they initially would not tell the farmers *which* farms got the tainted feed..
–
take note EnviroPig:
http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/washington/news.aspx?id=105449

http://thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/470794
–
some great Ireland gmo info reports here:
http://gmfreeireland.org/
http://gmfreeireland.org/press/index.php

GOOGLE: canada to kill hogs for more info

i’m not a druid or vegan shlep, but unleashing untested GMO seed and and animals on the world
is on the most irresponsible act the bio-tech industry has done to date..let alone the allergy issues that have arisen from it in the UK alone..

topping it off, obama was conned into appointing one of the biggest pro-gmo/clone agrobiz con artists going.

if you all you pro-obama stooges have any respect for the future of the planet food-wise, you’ll utilize the mass grassroots
brainwashing used to get your votes and use your choir of voices to *at least* get GMO labeling enacted, if not stop this outright.

it was your (EPA) group that help push this agenda forward via the concerns over pesticide use that got this ball rolling. -the least you can do is expose the BigPharma ex-execs, lawyers and lobbyist sitting on the EPA and FDA
exposed for the grave conflicts of interest that currently are in play..(his current lobby Exec Order does nothing to stop this)

(and yes i know Bush polices helped play a big roll in this..he like obama are pro NWO. -but this all started in 1995-6)

note: this is not alarmist crap.. i can back it up with tons of data/links.

its one of the few things i actually give a
damn about. do your own research, this is more important than world peace.

what good is peace if you have nothing safe to eat..anywhere.

-s

# 26 amodedoma said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:45 am

#24 bobbo

See we do agree! Sometimes. I got three kids and my gut instinct is that hangin’s too good for ‘em.
Still I really doubt that those prosecuted were anywhere near the most responsible, or those who benefitted the most.

# 27 bobbo said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am

#26–amodedoma==who benefits more?

I agree the chemist who actually put the poison in the mix is more “directly” responsible–but I see no motivation for him to do it without the CEO/Chairmans influence?

Besides, such a consideration is irrelevant==anyone responsible should take the fall regardless of who else doesn’t.

# 28 amodedoma said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am

#27 bobbo

With the additive melanine, milk can be diluted with water but continue to register high protein levels. With increased volume, more milk can be sold and the companies make more money.
So the motives are purely economic and you agree that without the boss’s influence no one would do it. Seems to me the fat cats should get it too and the fact that they won’t means they can find other ‘creative’ ways to make money, and that would be very relevant should some other toxic crap start showing up in their exports.

# 29 green said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 11:04 am

C.R.E.A.M. – Wutang clan.

Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

# 30 amodedoma said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 am

#25

Whoa dude, it’s bad, but it’s not too late. Be careful where you get your seeds and fertilizer, you can still eat clean, just grow your own. Personally I prefer local farmers markets where I get to know the farmers family. Or, if your lucky enough to live near the amish go to one of their markets – it don’t get any cleaner than that. Sure it’s complicated and takes more time but if your health is worth it…

# 31 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 11:17 am

22,
“Add in that we have one of the highest corp tax rates in the world. We need an equalizer…”

Not this bullshit again! You want to know one of the problems? Expectations of super profits. Not profits… IMMENSE MASSIVE PROFITS that go to shareholders, not the company.

Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. And, to get those SUPER MASSIVE PROFITS you go offshore. And your governments gives you tax incentives to do just that.

# 32 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 11:22 am

# 31 Named said, “Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. And, to get those SUPER MASSIVE PROFITS you go offshore.”

Yep, it is either profitable to run a company or the companies leave and then no jobs. Nothing a gov can do to stop it, they can only create a better environment for job creating companies…

# 33 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm

32,

Not profits… SUPER MASSIVE PROFITS! There is a difference.

Well, one thing that nations do to create better environments is to have certain aspects nationalized. The US nationalized the wrong things in the past year…

# 34 MikeN said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

I thought the death penalty was inhumane?

# 35 GetSmart said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm

#21 Mr. Fission: Like what, for instance? Toyota cars? Pet Rocks? What the fuck besides instruments of mass destruction are made here in the US anymore? And many of the more sophisticated electronic components used in weapons systems are starting to come from overseas as well. And smart bombs aren’t regular consumer items. Yet. And the big three US auto
companies aren’t exactly wowing customers with their great products lately. Bought a TV or computer or anything high tech lately? None of it was made here. And it’s all disposable crap.
Even a fair number of those big, expensive flat screen TV’s are no repair when they break items. No service literature, no parts availability. Crap.
What I indicated is we DON’T make stuff here anymore. Well, Britney Spears and Fiffy-cent type poo. Read the cans at the grocery store, an awful lot of them no longer reveal the actual country of origin of the contents. You should be able to guess why.
And I think the Bush administration should be tried for treason. So there.

# 36 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

# 33 Named said, “Well, one thing that nations do to create better environments is to have certain aspects nationalized.”

Like?

# 37 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm

36,

Simple ones. Ones that shouldn’t make profit, but should allow the populace to spend their money on things companies like to make.

Energy – high risk. For profit companies don’t like to start these. Government CAN. Cheap, regulated energy protects against companies that sell weather i.e. Enron
Health Care – high risk. For profit companies cannot provide health care at profit. It’s against the grain
Transportation – high risk. Why build a high speed rail service to unpopulated areas? Well, when you DO build a high-speed rail service to unpopulated area, they all of a sudden become populated.

Business does not like risk. Government can handle risk since they have a tax base to use it against. Take a loss of those services. They are essential for the populace, and eliminating their costs allows the populace to spend on things companies like to make… doodads, knick-knacks, widgets and other low-risk high reward stuff.

# 38 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm

# 37 Named said, “Energy – high risk. For profit companies don’t like to start these. Government CAN.”

Actually, companies love this area. The only reason we’re still using fossil fuel in the US to make electricity is because of gov’t road blocks.

Pretty funny, isn’t it?

# 39 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm

38,

Companies love it when they’re underwritten by the government. Why would a company build a power plant from scatch? They would have to forecast for 20 years to make a profit at a minimum. If you’re talking about oil, well, then its a geopolitical game. Most of the major players are or were government entities that became “private” after the hard work was done.

# 40 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm

# 34 Lyin’ Mike

I thought the death penalty was inhumane?

Since when?

# 41 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm

#38, Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath, Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop, Pretend Constitutional Scholar, Fake California Labor Law Expert, Pseudo Military Historian, Phony Climate Scientist, and Real Leading Troll Extraordinare,

The only reason we’re still using fossil fuel in the US to make electricity is because of gov’t road blocks.

Would you post a link to back up that claim? Show us these “gov’t road blocks”.

# 42 soundwash said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm

#30:

thats all well and good, unfortunately, i don’t have the means to move..i live in NYC and The Bronx, getting stuff to grow in the concrete here is well, kinda difficult.

the field i live next to just got fenced off,.and was/is a 25yr old rather toxic landfill. don’t know how safe veggies grown there would be..

plus..it looks like they are making it into some sort of holding area..was to be a gold course, but now i’m seeing a plumbing system going in.. not to mention they’ve been chem trailing the crap out of this area the last month+ -i’m sure whatever is they’re spraying isnt Miracle Grow…the planes dont show up on LGA or JFK radar… and black helicopters in the area show up as planes..*shrug*

wanna front me $300k cash so i can move, buy a
foreclosed house, seed and a few atmospheric water generators+solar panels? far,far away?? ;p

-s

# 43 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm

# 41 Mr. Fusion said, “Would you post a link to back up that claim?”

Umm, most of the actual data in the world isn’t in the form of a web page.

Go talk to some CEOs of energy companies. Or maybe a couple Heads of State.

Oops, I forgot, those types don’t often appear before your 3rd grade class…

# 44 Named said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 5:26 pm

42,

Any farmers markets in your hood?

# 45 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm

#43, Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath, Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop, Pretend Constitutional Scholar, Fake California Labor Law Expert, Pseudo Military Historian, Phony Climate Scientist, and Real Leading Troll Extraordinare,

Umm, most of the actual data in the world isn’t in the form of a web page.

Well surely you could find some actual press covering of specific projects hitting Government roadblocks. By the tone of your claim, you made it sound like this is a very common occurance.

Hey you claimed it and here I thought you don’t make up bullshit. I guess that makes me wrong.

# 46 Paddy-O said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm

# 45 Mr. Fusion said, “Well surely you could find some actual press covering of specific projects hitting Government roadblocks.”

Unlike you, these types of execs aren’t stupid enough to start something and then run into already known road blocks. While you might try to drive straight from Miami to Cuba in a car, intelligent people know that there is water between the two points.

Get it? No, probably not. Which is why you never finished the 4th grade…

# 47 Mr. Fusion said, on January 22nd, 2009 at 8:09 pm

#46, Cow-Paddy, Ignorant Shit Talking Sociopath, Retired Mall Rent-A-Cop, Pretend Constitutional Scholar, Fake California Labor Law Expert, Pseudo Military Historian, Phony Climate Scientist, and Real Leading Troll Extraordinare,

these types of execs aren’t stupid enough to start something and then run into already known road blocks.

So they aren’t being stopped by government roadblocks then. So you did lie.

# 48 jimbo said, on January 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 am

paddy-o said:

# 41 Mr. Fusion said, “Would you post a link to back up that claim?”

Umm, most of the actual data in the world isn’t in the form of a web page.

But yet you take your information from those aforementioned web pages…

# 49 Paddy-O said, on January 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am

# 48 jimbo said,

Hey jimbo, when they stuff the rubber thing in your mouth before the ECT session, do you have to bite down before they apply the juice to your brain? I know that last time I asked you said that you couldn’t remember because the high voltage used.

# 50 jimbo said, on January 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 am

avoiding questions again paddy-o…you are terrible at this.

perhaps your teenage pals on xbox live might be easier to ‘own’ because here you seem to be sh*t upon by everyone, even people new to the site take an instant dislike to your pathetic voice of knowledge, stolen from the internet.

do your parents know you surf this blog posing as an adult?

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