Non-creationist: Did you see that? What was it? Where did it come from? What does it mean?
Creationist: God did it! Coming to get a beer?

Good point.

The religious like to call science a religion because it competes for minds. Almost all religions claim they are the true way and their text is divinely inspired.

Yup. Good point.

BTW–yes, in all practical application, religion and science are competing inconsistent idealogies/mindsets regarding most issues of import. For various reasons, this great divide is covered up with rhetoric.

not well

Hey! You’re back. How’d your ECT session go today?

“Everything has to be explained including nature.”

I’m not so sure it’s important to explain _everything_.

For example: why do we park on the driveway and drive on the parkway?

Some things are just too dumb to bother with, except when they are the chairman of your state board of education, I suppose.

Texas is definitely trying to catch “down” to Mississippi…

Here’s a Texas story for you — the friend who told it to me swears it’s true: the bright young student decided to study Greek and Hebrew to read the ancient texts of the Bible, but the student’s pastor was livid! “If English was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for you!” he explained.

Here’s another, or, rather, just the punch line: “Might as well; can’t dance.”

There are many, many learned, highly intelligent, charming, open-minded people in Texas, yet people like # 52 4theBible seem to be the majority of the voters in the state’s 254 counties.

Paddy-o said – “I haven’t seen any testable proof to back up your statement”.

YOU haven’t backed up anything you have stated, provided no evidence for your claims, consistently been proven wrong, ignored requests by other users for proof of things you have said, engage in childish point scoring attacks, and shown us all that you are a waste of time and effort.

None of us have seen proof for any of your arguements, you just lift information straight from other peoples websites and plant it here in an attempt to seem smarter than eveyone.

I think you’d be more at home here

http://www.gamingsucks.com/blog – maturity not required.

BRUTALLY OWNED, TROLL

Your non sequitur is noted, but if you keep “owning” yourself like this you may go blind.

Were we taking about who what first to discover what? Having just scanned the posts, I see no such argument, so clearly you have imagined it.

Your trolling skills need some work, sir. Is way to easy to unravel your obfuscations.

Actually, it was Aristrachus in the 3rd century BC that discovered this and was ridiculed by Ptolemy and his contemporaries who formed a consensus (much like the Global warming cabal of today) that the Earth did not move and was the center of the universe.

But, lacking a real education, you didn’t know that…

Sorry, brutally owned again…

Actually, in your blind haste to troll my post, you chose an unfortunate example. Now I wasn’t going to feed the troll as it is a futile and time consuming process, and only encourages the buggers, but I now feel that my honor has been sullied. Allow me to retort, sir troll.

Once upon a time here was a chap called Copernicus. Now this chap, through his observations, came to the conclusion that the earth was not the center of the universe, and that it was in fact the earth that revolved around the sun, and that the sun was the center of the universe.

Copernicus published a book about his observations, which came to the attention of the Catholic Church. It seems that it was the view of the church that his ideas were “false and altogether opposed to Holy Scripture”, and essentially banned the book and the ideas it contained. This position was not reversed until the around 1850.

Does this sound at all familiar?

Ah yes, ad hominem. The last resort of the brutally owned. LOL

Very good link. I have read that before but lost the link; it’s great to have it back again.

Lord knows that darwinism is full of inconsistencies, errors & outright fraud. And those weaknesses have not been ‘refuted many, many times over’ – they are very much alive & legitimate.

Ok, fine. Maybe you could enlighten me and explain a few of the inconsistencies, errors & outright fraud they foisted upon my poor little brain.