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	<title>Comments on: Not Dumb Enough in Mississippi: Evolution Disclaimer Proposed for all Textbooks</title>
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		<title>By: caveman 57</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1527703</link>
		<dc:creator>caveman 57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know most of you who made previous comments are probably not reading this but as one of the members bringing the bill to our rep. i am amazed that there is so much misunderstanding out there, this warning is not saying which theory is right and which is wrong it only states that evolution is a theory and that the reader should not take it as fact, but keep their mind open to other theories as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know most of you who made previous comments are probably not reading this but as one of the members bringing the bill to our rep. i am amazed that there is so much misunderstanding out there, this warning is not saying which theory is right and which is wrong it only states that evolution is a theory and that the reader should not take it as fact, but keep their mind open to other theories as well.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movement is to make sure that people understand that fact that, like most &#039;theories&#039; of the text books, they are just that, &#039;theories&#039;.  You go through the &#039;facts&#039; and &#039;theories&#039; and &#039;beliefs&#039;, then you choose what you wish to base your life and focus on.  Free world, free choices.  Why is there discrimination against none but those who are religious?  

Believe it or not, many religious people are those that have looked over all the evidence and even are the scientists.  Spite them not if they don&#039;t see that it&#039;s concrete.

I&#039;m saddened to see JCD call Mississippians &quot;not dumb enough&quot; for this action.  I&#039;ve lost a lot of respect for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movement is to make sure that people understand that fact that, like most &#8216;theories&#8217; of the text books, they are just that, &#8216;theories&#8217;.  You go through the &#8216;facts&#8217; and &#8216;theories&#8217; and &#8216;beliefs&#8217;, then you choose what you wish to base your life and focus on.  Free world, free choices.  Why is there discrimination against none but those who are religious?  </p>
<p>Believe it or not, many religious people are those that have looked over all the evidence and even are the scientists.  Spite them not if they don&#8217;t see that it&#8217;s concrete.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saddened to see JCD call Mississippians &#8220;not dumb enough&#8221; for this action.  I&#8217;ve lost a lot of respect for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476522</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#88, Not a big one

&lt;i&gt;bobbo the monkey muffin&lt;/i&gt;

Now that is rich.

hahahahaha, 

Sorry Bobbo, I can&#039;t help but laugh. The next time I get pissed at you I just might use it. But, I will with a twinkle in my eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#88, Not a big one</p>
<p><i>bobbo the monkey muffin</i></p>
<p>Now that is rich.</p>
<p>hahahahaha, </p>
<p>Sorry Bobbo, I can&#8217;t help but laugh. The next time I get pissed at you I just might use it. But, I will with a twinkle in my eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476239</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#105 - Paddy-trOll,

&lt;i&gt;Oh, I’m not saying it lacks evidence. I just think as we get more &amp; more advanced ability to examine the universe the estimates will continue to be revised upward. This has been the case since the age has been attempted to be determined.&lt;/i&gt;

Then, what your misfiring neurons have failed to notice is the dramatic shrinking of the error bars around the time frame. We&#039;ve been at 13.7 billion years now for at least a decade. The error bars keep shrinking around that time frame. I think it highly unlikely that the estimate will change dramatically now, almost certainly not by two orders of magnitude.

Notice, if you can, that the error bars now put the number within less than 1% of the current estimate. This is what happens as technology improves and gives more methods of checking and greater accuracy. Oh wait. I forgot, you don&#039;t actually understand science and technology, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#105 &#8211; Paddy-trOll,</p>
<p><i>Oh, I’m not saying it lacks evidence. I just think as we get more &amp; more advanced ability to examine the universe the estimates will continue to be revised upward. This has been the case since the age has been attempted to be determined.</i></p>
<p>Then, what your misfiring neurons have failed to notice is the dramatic shrinking of the error bars around the time frame. We&#8217;ve been at 13.7 billion years now for at least a decade. The error bars keep shrinking around that time frame. I think it highly unlikely that the estimate will change dramatically now, almost certainly not by two orders of magnitude.</p>
<p>Notice, if you can, that the error bars now put the number within less than 1% of the current estimate. This is what happens as technology improves and gives more methods of checking and greater accuracy. Oh wait. I forgot, you don&#8217;t actually understand science and technology, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott--I don&#039;t pay for nutting, so try this home page, the link is there

http://newscientist.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott&#8211;I don&#8217;t pay for nutting, so try this home page, the link is there</p>
<p><a href="http://newscientist.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://newscientist.com/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://newscientist.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476176</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 103 Misanthropic Scott said, &quot;Science, for those who care about pesky things like evidence, has a pretty tight bracket on that now. It’s 13.73 billion plus or minus 120 million at most.&quot;

Oh, I&#039;m not saying it lacks evidence.  I just think as we get more &amp; more advanced ability to examine the universe the estimates will continue to be revised upward.  This has been the case since the age has been attempted to be determined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 103 Misanthropic Scott said, &#8220;Science, for those who care about pesky things like evidence, has a pretty tight bracket on that now. It’s 13.73 billion plus or minus 120 million at most.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I&#8217;m not saying it lacks evidence.  I just think as we get more &amp; more advanced ability to examine the universe the estimates will continue to be revised upward.  This has been the case since the age has been attempted to be determined.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476175</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#102 - bobbo,

Dang. That sounds like a good article. Unfortunately, I think a subscription is required to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#102 &#8211; bobbo,</p>
<p>Dang. That sounds like a good article. Unfortunately, I think a subscription is required to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476172</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#99 - Paddy-trOll,

&lt;i&gt;Something tells me they’ve underestimated the age by a few trillion years.&lt;/i&gt;

Something tells you that. But, it&#039;s not science. It&#039;s your own misfiring neurons.

Science, for those who care about pesky things like evidence, has a pretty tight bracket on that now. It&#039;s 13.73 billion plus or minus 120 million at most.

Here&#039;s another link you won&#039;t click because you&#039;re a troll.

http://tinyurl.com/22chwu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#99 &#8211; Paddy-trOll,</p>
<p><i>Something tells me they’ve underestimated the age by a few trillion years.</i></p>
<p>Something tells you that. But, it&#8217;s not science. It&#8217;s your own misfiring neurons.</p>
<p>Science, for those who care about pesky things like evidence, has a pretty tight bracket on that now. It&#8217;s 13.73 billion plus or minus 120 million at most.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another link you won&#8217;t click because you&#8217;re a troll.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/22chwu" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/22chwu' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/22chwu</a></p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476161</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discalculia:  Why some people can&#039;t put two and two together.

Explains a lot.  Every 6 months or so I see another item about how so much is driven by our genetics.

I have read some about various &quot;centers&quot; now modules about various things and it seems they are becoming more narrowly defined taking in more social phenomenon seen as more general and diffuse.

Makes me wonder if there is a god module?

http://newscientist.com/article/mg20126921.700-why-some-people-cant-put-two-and-two-together.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=online-news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discalculia:  Why some people can&#8217;t put two and two together.</p>
<p>Explains a lot.  Every 6 months or so I see another item about how so much is driven by our genetics.</p>
<p>I have read some about various &#8220;centers&#8221; now modules about various things and it seems they are becoming more narrowly defined taking in more social phenomenon seen as more general and diffuse.</p>
<p>Makes me wonder if there is a god module?</p>
<p><a href="http://newscientist.com/article/mg20126921.700-why-some-people-cant-put-two-and-two-together.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=online-news" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://newscientist.com/article/mg20126921.700-why-some-people-cant-put-two-and-two-together.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=online-news' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://newscientist.com/article/mg20126921.700-why-some-people-cant-put-two-and-two-together.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=online-news</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-3/#comment-1476151</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 100 bobbo said,  &quot;Paddy–so your concept of infinite time is measured in the trillions huh?&quot;

You&#039;re babbling again.  Drink more coffee.  ;)

BTW, time really doesn&#039;t exist. We seem to perceive it, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 100 bobbo said,  &#8220;Paddy–so your concept of infinite time is measured in the trillions huh?&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re babbling again.  Drink more coffee.  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, time really doesn&#8217;t exist. We seem to perceive it, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-2/#comment-1476144</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>98--Scott:  &quot;Personally though, I’m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.&quot; ////  Good one.  Not even a chance to dream?  

Paddy--so your concept of infinite time is measured in the trillions huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>98&#8211;Scott:  &#8220;Personally though, I’m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.&#8221; ////  Good one.  Not even a chance to dream?  </p>
<p>Paddy&#8211;so your concept of infinite time is measured in the trillions huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-2/#comment-1476139</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 98 Misanthropic Scott said,  &quot;Personally though, I’m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.&quot;

Something tells me they&#039;ve underestimated the age by a few trillion years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 98 Misanthropic Scott said,  &#8220;Personally though, I’m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Something tells me they&#8217;ve underestimated the age by a few trillion years.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-2/#comment-1476135</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97 - bobbo,

&lt;i&gt;I am an anti-theist, but I do wish the rapture would come.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;d be a great way to get rid of the wackos of the world. As for heaven vs. hell, if I find out the fundies and born against are right, I&#039;d still prefer hell. Heaven full of these wackos would be hell enough for me.

Personally though, I&#039;m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97 &#8211; bobbo,</p>
<p><i>I am an anti-theist, but I do wish the rapture would come.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;d be a great way to get rid of the wackos of the world. As for heaven vs. hell, if I find out the fundies and born against are right, I&#8217;d still prefer hell. Heaven full of these wackos would be hell enough for me.</p>
<p>Personally though, I&#8217;m still expecting to feel during my apres vie exactly the way I felt for the first 13.7 billion years of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-2/#comment-1476054</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking anyone wins anything by the number of posts in a blog makes about as much sense as thinking you know the truth because you believe it.

I am an anti-theist, but I do wish the rapture would come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking anyone wins anything by the number of posts in a blog makes about as much sense as thinking you know the truth because you believe it.</p>
<p>I am an anti-theist, but I do wish the rapture would come.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'nKangaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/22/not-dumb-enough-in-mississippi-evolution-disclaimer-proposed-textbooks/comment-page-2/#comment-1476050</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'nKangaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Gary Chism wins.  Look who many comments he brought forth on DU just by intoducing a bill that will probably just sit in committees, going nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Gary Chism wins.  Look who many comments he brought forth on DU just by intoducing a bill that will probably just sit in committees, going nowhere.</p>
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