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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, Lyin&#039; Mike,

&lt;i&gt;Right now they are launching boycotts and getting people fired for contributing to the marriage amendment in California. &lt;/i&gt;

And I suppose you find that wrong? 

If someone wants me to spend money at their establishment then they better not be trying to remove my rights. This is the whole purpose behind knowing who contributed to what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, Lyin&#8217; Mike,</p>
<p><i>Right now they are launching boycotts and getting people fired for contributing to the marriage amendment in California. </i></p>
<p>And I suppose you find that wrong? </p>
<p>If someone wants me to spend money at their establishment then they better not be trying to remove my rights. This is the whole purpose behind knowing who contributed to what.</p>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washington is built of it. Slowing it down, slows government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washington is built of it. Slowing it down, slows government.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 28 Selvy said,  &quot;Yep. Closing Gitmo.&quot;

Gitmo hasn&#039;t been closed or actually ordered to be closed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 28 Selvy said,  &#8220;Yep. Closing Gitmo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gitmo hasn&#8217;t been closed or actually ordered to be closed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;If he is now the leader of a terrorist group, why don’t they just go and arrest him? The same as those other “confirmed terrorists” the Defense Department has identified.

The liberal view of the war on terror.  I can&#039;t believe no one thought of that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;If he is now the leader of a terrorist group, why don’t they just go and arrest him? The same as those other “confirmed terrorists” the Defense Department has identified.</p>
<p>The liberal view of the war on terror.  I can&#8217;t believe no one thought of that before.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 39 bobbo said,  &quot;We shall see.&quot;

Fair enough.  I just hope he&#039;s not over procurement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 39 bobbo said,  &#8220;We shall see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fair enough.  I just hope he&#8217;s not over procurement.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37--Paddy==my take is dependent on facts we don&#039;t know.  For a start, he is the DEPUTY Sect, not the Sect.  Was he the lobbyist JUST for one company Raytheon, or was Raytheon just one of a group.  That could make a big difference.  Easy to not deal with one company, harder not to deal with &quot;an industry&quot; but that is possible too.

I hate lobbysist/business over influence in our government but evidently the real expertise to deal with certain issues does &quot;come out of&quot; said industries.

The good or bad of this will be the actual standards of conduct that ObamaGod requires of his government.  We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37&#8211;Paddy==my take is dependent on facts we don&#8217;t know.  For a start, he is the DEPUTY Sect, not the Sect.  Was he the lobbyist JUST for one company Raytheon, or was Raytheon just one of a group.  That could make a big difference.  Easy to not deal with one company, harder not to deal with &#8220;an industry&#8221; but that is possible too.</p>
<p>I hate lobbysist/business over influence in our government but evidently the real expertise to deal with certain issues does &#8220;come out of&#8221; said industries.</p>
<p>The good or bad of this will be the actual standards of conduct that ObamaGod requires of his government.  We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28, Selvey

&lt;i&gt;Yep. Closing Gitmo. And the number of ‘reformed’ enemy combatants continues to shorten:&lt;/i&gt;

Yup. Arrest the guy without any reason. Hold the guy for six years. Torture him. Don&#039;t allow him to question why he is being detained. No contact with his family or even his country for years. Yup. Sounds like he was rehabilitated to me. Why should he ever hate the people that held him.

If he is now the leader of a terrorist group, why don&#039;t they just go and arrest him? The same as those other &quot;confirmed terrorists&quot; the Defense Department has identified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28, Selvey</p>
<p><i>Yep. Closing Gitmo. And the number of ‘reformed’ enemy combatants continues to shorten:</i></p>
<p>Yup. Arrest the guy without any reason. Hold the guy for six years. Torture him. Don&#8217;t allow him to question why he is being detained. No contact with his family or even his country for years. Yup. Sounds like he was rehabilitated to me. Why should he ever hate the people that held him.</p>
<p>If he is now the leader of a terrorist group, why don&#8217;t they just go and arrest him? The same as those other &#8220;confirmed terrorists&#8221; the Defense Department has identified.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 36 bobbo said,  &quot;Paddy==you should at least read the posting you respond to:&quot;

It&#039;s early &amp; I was up most of the night.  So, let&#039;s start over. 

If Obama&#039;s intention is limit the influence of lobbyist&#039;s clients in gov&#039;t; then putting one in a position of authority over an agency the former client sells to is VERY bad.

IF, that isn&#039;t the intent, then, no problem.

What is your take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 36 bobbo said,  &#8220;Paddy==you should at least read the posting you respond to:&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s early &amp; I was up most of the night.  So, let&#8217;s start over. </p>
<p>If Obama&#8217;s intention is limit the influence of lobbyist&#8217;s clients in gov&#8217;t; then putting one in a position of authority over an agency the former client sells to is VERY bad.</p>
<p>IF, that isn&#8217;t the intent, then, no problem.</p>
<p>What is your take?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy==you should at least read the posting you respond to:

&quot;I can see certain difficulties for that, or not, depending on what the people involved do==but no violation of the rule.&quot;

Obama has followed the rule.  Now we get to see if the Dep Sect does as well, and thereafter what Obama will do to enforce his rule.

Focus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy==you should at least read the posting you respond to:</p>
<p>&#8220;I can see certain difficulties for that, or not, depending on what the people involved do==but no violation of the rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama has followed the rule.  Now we get to see if the Dep Sect does as well, and thereafter what Obama will do to enforce his rule.</p>
<p>Focus!</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 34 bobbo said,  on January 24th, &quot;His rule allows for hiring lobbyists–they just can’t work on projects involving their old clients.&quot;

You really are asking?

Do you know what the D/Sec Def is and who he is over, authority wise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 34 bobbo said,  on January 24th, &#8220;His rule allows for hiring lobbyists–they just can’t work on projects involving their old clients.&#8221;</p>
<p>You really are asking?</p>
<p>Do you know what the D/Sec Def is and who he is over, authority wise?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32--Paddy==how did Obama break his own rule?

His rule allows for hiring lobbyists--they just can&#039;t work on projects involving their old clients.

I can see certain difficulties for that, or not, depending on what the people involved do==but no violation of the rule.

So--more BS misinformation for headlines, but facts go directly against them.  Who puts out a show named &quot;No BS&quot; to begin with????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32&#8211;Paddy==how did Obama break his own rule?</p>
<p>His rule allows for hiring lobbyists&#8211;they just can&#8217;t work on projects involving their old clients.</p>
<p>I can see certain difficulties for that, or not, depending on what the people involved do==but no violation of the rule.</p>
<p>So&#8211;more BS misinformation for headlines, but facts go directly against them.  Who puts out a show named &#8220;No BS&#8221; to begin with????</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/23/obama-restricts-lobbyists-republicans-offer-group-hug-at-25000-a-pop/comment-page-2/#comment-1476095</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 30 Cap&#039;nKangaroo said, &quot;Did learn something interesting about Rep Kirsten Gillibrand, the democrat picked to take Hillary’s Senate seat.&quot;


Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, told CNN&#039;s Mary Snow on Friday that Paterson is &quot;making a very bad choice as far as picking someone who in my opinion doesn&#039;t represent New York state&quot;, citing Gillibrand&#039;s strong support for Second Amendment rights.

Yep, psycho Dem thinks a person who supports the Constitution is reason for them being a bad choice for US Senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 30 Cap&#8217;nKangaroo said, &#8220;Did learn something interesting about Rep Kirsten Gillibrand, the democrat picked to take Hillary’s Senate seat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, told CNN&#8217;s Mary Snow on Friday that Paterson is &#8220;making a very bad choice as far as picking someone who in my opinion doesn&#8217;t represent New York state&#8221;, citing Gillibrand&#8217;s strong support for Second Amendment rights.</p>
<p>Yep, psycho Dem thinks a person who supports the Constitution is reason for them being a bad choice for US Senator.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commentary: Obama breaks his own rule
Transparent government?

http://cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commentary: Obama breaks his own rule<br />
Transparent government?</p>
<p><a href="http://cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Glidedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glidedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama also has a Clearwire VP advising him to delay the DTV roll out to the advantage of Clearwire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama also has a Clearwire VP advising him to delay the DTV roll out to the advantage of Clearwire.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'nKangaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'nKangaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t I heard from the last 2-3 administrations how they each were going to be more strict than those before them.  You would think lobbying would be a thing of the past by now if they all lived up to their press release.

Did learn something interesting about Rep Kirsten Gillibrand, the democrat picked to take Hillary&#039;s Senate seat.  According to the NY Times, she has a sunshine policy.  She publishes her daily schedule including meetings with lobbists and with those people seeking earmarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t I heard from the last 2-3 administrations how they each were going to be more strict than those before them.  You would think lobbying would be a thing of the past by now if they all lived up to their press release.</p>
<p>Did learn something interesting about Rep Kirsten Gillibrand, the democrat picked to take Hillary&#8217;s Senate seat.  According to the NY Times, she has a sunshine policy.  She publishes her daily schedule including meetings with lobbists and with those people seeking earmarks.</p>
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