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	<title>Comments on: Bhutan becomes The First Country to Ban Smoking</title>
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		<title>By: Tobacco-Dealer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/24/bhutan-becomes-the-firsy-country-to-ban-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1477581</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobacco-Dealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HARRR.

Im smuggling a few keys of American Spirits next time I travel.

get your organic Non GMO cigs here.

$50 an OZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HARRR.</p>
<p>Im smuggling a few keys of American Spirits next time I travel.</p>
<p>get your organic Non GMO cigs here.</p>
<p>$50 an OZ</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31

definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 47%
male: 60%
female: 34% (2003 est.)

Maybe it was averaged incorrectly.</description>
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<p>definition: age 15 and over can read and write<br />
total population: 47%<br />
male: 60%<br />
female: 34% (2003 est.)</p>
<p>Maybe it was averaged incorrectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jigme</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/24/bhutan-becomes-the-firsy-country-to-ban-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1476889</link>
		<dc:creator>Jigme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dvorak, 

As a Bhutanese, firstly the news is very old, been over 2 years now. Secondly the irony is that marijuana grows wild and all over the country. Who needs to smoke cigarettes.  

Great posts by the way. 

- Bhutanese 

@Paddy - O: the literacy rate is 54% not 47%, not that it is something to be proud of. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dvorak, </p>
<p>As a Bhutanese, firstly the news is very old, been over 2 years now. Secondly the irony is that marijuana grows wild and all over the country. Who needs to smoke cigarettes.  </p>
<p>Great posts by the way. </p>
<p>- Bhutanese </p>
<p>@Paddy &#8211; O: the literacy rate is 54% not 47%, not that it is something to be proud of. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/24/bhutan-becomes-the-firsy-country-to-ban-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1476848</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>47% literacy rate, smallest economy in the world, the current king  postponed ascending to the throne 2 years because of astrology.  Yep, a well run country.

ROFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>47% literacy rate, smallest economy in the world, the current king  postponed ascending to the throne 2 years because of astrology.  Yep, a well run country.</p>
<p>ROFL</p>
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		<title>By: Breetai</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/24/bhutan-becomes-the-firsy-country-to-ban-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1476833</link>
		<dc:creator>Breetai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.  Why the hell don&#039;t they make Nicotine and any other adictive substancase a &#039;controled substance.&#039; and ban that instead of the ciggarettes.

Ohh...  Nooo... that would make sense.

Damn Liberal commie wackos and conservative corporate whore Nazi&#039;s getting in the way of common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  Why the hell don&#8217;t they make Nicotine and any other adictive substancase a &#8216;controled substance.&#8217; and ban that instead of the ciggarettes.</p>
<p>Ohh&#8230;  Nooo&#8230; that would make sense.</p>
<p>Damn Liberal commie wackos and conservative corporate whore Nazi&#8217;s getting in the way of common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a smoker.  He received a ton of votes in the election.  McCain didn&#039;t even bother to try to raise the subject as an issue.

No one really cares about smoking as an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a smoker.  He received a ton of votes in the election.  McCain didn&#8217;t even bother to try to raise the subject as an issue.</p>
<p>No one really cares about smoking as an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d support such a ban in the US, too.  (with a slow phase-out, of course.)

I also understand that this will never happen, and puts me at odds with the many legalize drugs guys on this board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d support such a ban in the US, too.  (with a slow phase-out, of course.)</p>
<p>I also understand that this will never happen, and puts me at odds with the many legalize drugs guys on this board.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23.  and smokers generally wind up costing the medical system lots of $$$ before they croak.

presumably in the Perfect Libertarian State they will be left by the side of the road to die, but we in the Nanny State insist upon trying to save/prolong their lives.  

smokers on Medicare/caid pick the pockets of taxpayers, smokers on private insurance pick the pockets of others insured by the same company, smokers without insurance pick the pockets of everyone who pays the shifted costs.

like they say - freedom ain&#039;t free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23.  and smokers generally wind up costing the medical system lots of $$$ before they croak.</p>
<p>presumably in the Perfect Libertarian State they will be left by the side of the road to die, but we in the Nanny State insist upon trying to save/prolong their lives.  </p>
<p>smokers on Medicare/caid pick the pockets of taxpayers, smokers on private insurance pick the pockets of others insured by the same company, smokers without insurance pick the pockets of everyone who pays the shifted costs.</p>
<p>like they say &#8211; freedom ain&#8217;t free.</p>
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		<title>By: brm</title>
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		<dc:creator>brm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of statists in this thread is alarming.

Hey, let&#039;s ban ice cream, because it makes people fat and die. Better yet, lets ban cars, because people driving them pose a danger to all of us just trying to enjoy the &quot;public space.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of statists in this thread is alarming.</p>
<p>Hey, let&#8217;s ban ice cream, because it makes people fat and die. Better yet, lets ban cars, because people driving them pose a danger to all of us just trying to enjoy the &#8220;public space.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another place I will never be going to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another place I will never be going to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, kevin,

... &lt;i&gt;blaming smokers for the costs when the economists and real numbers tell us; smokers actually save us a fortune by dying prematurely.&lt;/i&gt;

Bullpoop !!!

If you wish to die younger, go for it. What smokers conveniently ignore is the effect their smoking has upon other people. Second hand smoke has been shown to be carcinogenic. That means your smoke may end up killing someone else. Someone who does care about living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, kevin,</p>
<p>&#8230; <i>blaming smokers for the costs when the economists and real numbers tell us; smokers actually save us a fortune by dying prematurely.</i></p>
<p>Bullpoop !!!</p>
<p>If you wish to die younger, go for it. What smokers conveniently ignore is the effect their smoking has upon other people. Second hand smoke has been shown to be carcinogenic. That means your smoke may end up killing someone else. Someone who does care about living.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20--Kevin==how are you affected by a sin tax if you don&#039;t engage in the heavily taxed activity?

An honest government is better than a dishonest one unless they are honestly imposing one version of morality over another without much behind it.

Cigarettes may be less addictive enough and too complicated for home grown activities so it might even work===in Bhutan.  What more than PROHIBITION do you need to know about before thinking that a government should not outlaw things that many people, even if not a majority but ESPECIALLY when there are a majority of people, that want prohibited substances and activities.

I&#039;d rather a FREEDOM supporting government than an honest one==but why not have both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20&#8211;Kevin==how are you affected by a sin tax if you don&#8217;t engage in the heavily taxed activity?</p>
<p>An honest government is better than a dishonest one unless they are honestly imposing one version of morality over another without much behind it.</p>
<p>Cigarettes may be less addictive enough and too complicated for home grown activities so it might even work===in Bhutan.  What more than PROHIBITION do you need to know about before thinking that a government should not outlaw things that many people, even if not a majority but ESPECIALLY when there are a majority of people, that want prohibited substances and activities.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather a FREEDOM supporting government than an honest one==but why not have both?</p>
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		<title>By: Neo-postmodernist Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo-postmodernist Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning smoking is a great idea.  In fact, more so even that banning heroine or pot or whatever, because unlike heroine or pot, people can only do so much to smoke illicitly, and if they do, they just won&#039;t be able to do is very often.  As Nimby says, even if people in the current generation continue to smoke, the next generation won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning smoking is a great idea.  In fact, more so even that banning heroine or pot or whatever, because unlike heroine or pot, people can only do so much to smoke illicitly, and if they do, they just won&#8217;t be able to do is very often.  As Nimby says, even if people in the current generation continue to smoke, the next generation won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is refreshing to see an Honest government. The rest of them prefer backdoor prohibitions and stealing morality taxes from those addicted, to fund golf courses and daycare centers. All the while hoping the number of those who smoke never declines thus killing off the golden goose.

The MSA deal and cigarette taxation backed by investments from the cigarette patch industry and its gangsterist lobbies, are about as low a water mark as politics has ever seen in gauging ethics and integrity. The incredibly ridiculous fraud they call second and now third hand smoke, were invented to sign up the rest of the population to vent their legislation suppressed bigotry against smokers. A kind of science which was invented by the Nazis for their protection rackets, which smells a lot worse than the smoke in the Bingo halls.

Countries who deliberately develop bigotry to illicit profit are fodder for the same black markets and corruptions as we saw in the prohibition days. For America that corruption is as ingrained as the misguided notion that by electing a Black Prez. so ends racism. While the targets are no longer based in racial variants smoking and obesity and a long list of future favorites, are just another target for the medical community to repeat their historical tendencies of killing by bandwagon promotion, many more than they will ever save.

If people in the majority don&#039;t like smoking, BAN IT!!! and be honest. The only people holding us back with all the whimpering of prohibition blues are the medical charities and rent seeking lobbies sucking billions out of our healthcare budgets every year. While blaming smokers for the costs when the economists and real numbers tell us; smokers actually save us a fortune by dying prematurely.

Does it follow any stretch of credibility; if we get everyone to quit smoking we will save money with more elderly people, living longer? Somehow their claims just don&#039;t hold water when you take the time to look.

Be honest and ban them or shut the hell up because I am sick to death of money sucking hypocrites calling themselves medical charities and public health &quot;authorities&quot; robbing me blind. 

I didn&#039;t vote for them, did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is refreshing to see an Honest government. The rest of them prefer backdoor prohibitions and stealing morality taxes from those addicted, to fund golf courses and daycare centers. All the while hoping the number of those who smoke never declines thus killing off the golden goose.</p>
<p>The MSA deal and cigarette taxation backed by investments from the cigarette patch industry and its gangsterist lobbies, are about as low a water mark as politics has ever seen in gauging ethics and integrity. The incredibly ridiculous fraud they call second and now third hand smoke, were invented to sign up the rest of the population to vent their legislation suppressed bigotry against smokers. A kind of science which was invented by the Nazis for their protection rackets, which smells a lot worse than the smoke in the Bingo halls.</p>
<p>Countries who deliberately develop bigotry to illicit profit are fodder for the same black markets and corruptions as we saw in the prohibition days. For America that corruption is as ingrained as the misguided notion that by electing a Black Prez. so ends racism. While the targets are no longer based in racial variants smoking and obesity and a long list of future favorites, are just another target for the medical community to repeat their historical tendencies of killing by bandwagon promotion, many more than they will ever save.</p>
<p>If people in the majority don&#8217;t like smoking, BAN IT!!! and be honest. The only people holding us back with all the whimpering of prohibition blues are the medical charities and rent seeking lobbies sucking billions out of our healthcare budgets every year. While blaming smokers for the costs when the economists and real numbers tell us; smokers actually save us a fortune by dying prematurely.</p>
<p>Does it follow any stretch of credibility; if we get everyone to quit smoking we will save money with more elderly people, living longer? Somehow their claims just don&#8217;t hold water when you take the time to look.</p>
<p>Be honest and ban them or shut the hell up because I am sick to death of money sucking hypocrites calling themselves medical charities and public health &#8220;authorities&#8221; robbing me blind. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t vote for them, did you?</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
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		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real progress will be made when they ban rap music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real progress will be made when they ban rap music.</p>
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