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	<title>Comments on: Montreal Coppers petition City to make insults like &#8220;donut eater&#8221; illegal</title>
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		<title>By: jame</title>
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		<dc:creator>jame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whY do they feel insulted ? they gave themselfs that name .Next time piggys dont abuse peoples rights ,you are a pig and thats it . accept IT or move on ,maybe next time you will think about getting a real job  AND NOT BE HATED BY 68 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION PIGGYS...A JOB THATS considered hoNOrable ,COPS ARE NOT IN THAT HONORABE,,not montreal cops ,GOTS IT PIGGYS!YOU DISCUSTING MISERABLE SONS OF SICK ABUSIVE LOSERS OF DONUT EATING WITH SHIT ON IT OF MONTREAL COPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whY do they feel insulted ? they gave themselfs that name .Next time piggys dont abuse peoples rights ,you are a pig and thats it . accept IT or move on ,maybe next time you will think about getting a real job  AND NOT BE HATED BY 68 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION PIGGYS&#8230;A JOB THATS considered hoNOrable ,COPS ARE NOT IN THAT HONORABE,,not montreal cops ,GOTS IT PIGGYS!YOU DISCUSTING MISERABLE SONS OF SICK ABUSIVE LOSERS OF DONUT EATING WITH SHIT ON IT OF MONTREAL COPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 it&#039;s called freedom of expression
http://www.uottawa.ca/constitutional-law/expression.html

this won&#039;t fly in court. Like the proposed bylaw banning mask during manifestations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 it&#8217;s called freedom of expression<br />
<a href="http://www.uottawa.ca/constitutional-law/expression.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.uottawa.ca/constitutional-law/expression.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.uottawa.ca/constitutional-law/expression.html</a></p>
<p>this won&#8217;t fly in court. Like the proposed bylaw banning mask during manifestations.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not possible.  Doesn&#039;t Canada has an equivalent to the 1st Amendment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not possible.  Doesn&#8217;t Canada has an equivalent to the 1st Amendment?</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CSI Canada&lt;/strong&gt; -- Bob, that corpse with 30 bullet holes in him has &quot;Stupid Donut Eaters&quot; carved into his skull.  Should we investigate this crime, or did he commit suicide,eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CSI Canada</strong> &#8212; Bob, that corpse with 30 bullet holes in him has &#8220;Stupid Donut Eaters&#8221; carved into his skull.  Should we investigate this crime, or did he commit suicide,eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always respected the police. After all, they&#039;re doing a job, most of us would pay to avoid. That&#039;s why we pay them to do it. And though they&#039;re not making the kind of income a Pope makes (in theory). We expect them to be saints at all times. Rather than as flawed human beings, like the rest of us. They have their bad days too. And it&#039;s the kind of nasty job that can wear anyone down. So we all need to cut them some stack.

That said, I think this penalty for words thing, is a very bad move. And ultimately useless. Language can be like quicksilver. You start banning parts of it. It will just find cracks to slip thru, to express itself. Ban &quot;Donut-Eater&quot;, and people will resort to saying &quot;Lard Lad&quot;, or &quot;Ring Ding&quot;, or &quot;Dunkin&quot;.
The need to express an insult isn&#039;t going to go away, just because a certain phrase is banned. And people are only going to feel more oppressed that they can&#039;t speak freely, in an otherwise free society. This sort of policy would work in China, Russia, or Japan. But not anywhere else. I think these Montreal cops ought to be glad that insults are the worst things being hurled at them. Ducking bricks is a lot worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always respected the police. After all, they&#8217;re doing a job, most of us would pay to avoid. That&#8217;s why we pay them to do it. And though they&#8217;re not making the kind of income a Pope makes (in theory). We expect them to be saints at all times. Rather than as flawed human beings, like the rest of us. They have their bad days too. And it&#8217;s the kind of nasty job that can wear anyone down. So we all need to cut them some stack.</p>
<p>That said, I think this penalty for words thing, is a very bad move. And ultimately useless. Language can be like quicksilver. You start banning parts of it. It will just find cracks to slip thru, to express itself. Ban &#8220;Donut-Eater&#8221;, and people will resort to saying &#8220;Lard Lad&#8221;, or &#8220;Ring Ding&#8221;, or &#8220;Dunkin&#8221;.<br />
The need to express an insult isn&#8217;t going to go away, just because a certain phrase is banned. And people are only going to feel more oppressed that they can&#8217;t speak freely, in an otherwise free society. This sort of policy would work in China, Russia, or Japan. But not anywhere else. I think these Montreal cops ought to be glad that insults are the worst things being hurled at them. Ducking bricks is a lot worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Doucheington III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Doucheington III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww the Montreal police are sooie-eet little wussies. 

Maybe they really are a bunch of donut eating pigs and they should take the hint and install a gym. 

Where does it end tho? If I say &quot;that&#039;ll do pig&quot; after getting a ticket, Ill get fined? What about saying &quot;Hi ham hocks&quot; or what if I ask the cop if he too &quot;smells bacon&quot;? 

There are sooo many words, not to mention the French versions of the words. I mean &#039;pig&#039;, &#039;fat bastard&#039;, &#039;bacon&#039;, &#039;swine&#039;, &#039;scum&#039;, &#039;tit-heads&#039;, &#039;oinkers&#039;, ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww the Montreal police are sooie-eet little wussies. </p>
<p>Maybe they really are a bunch of donut eating pigs and they should take the hint and install a gym. </p>
<p>Where does it end tho? If I say &#8220;that&#8217;ll do pig&#8221; after getting a ticket, Ill get fined? What about saying &#8220;Hi ham hocks&#8221; or what if I ask the cop if he too &#8220;smells bacon&#8221;? </p>
<p>There are sooo many words, not to mention the French versions of the words. I mean &#8216;pig&#8217;, &#8216;fat bastard&#8217;, &#8216;bacon&#8217;, &#8216;swine&#8217;, &#8216;scum&#8217;, &#8216;tit-heads&#8217;, &#8216;oinkers&#8217;, &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 Improbus has it right. If you can&#039;t handle some drunkard mouthing off, and there is NOTHING else you can bust him on, then you need to find another line of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 Improbus has it right. If you can&#8217;t handle some drunkard mouthing off, and there is NOTHING else you can bust him on, then you need to find another line of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Improbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Improbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldn&#039;t think guys and gals that carry guns would be so thin skinned.  BTW, I would rather get tasered than give up some of my hard earned cash.  Is that an option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wouldn&#8217;t think guys and gals that carry guns would be so thin skinned.  BTW, I would rather get tasered than give up some of my hard earned cash.  Is that an option?</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there going to be a list of unacceptable words so we know what we are and aren&#039;t allowed to call them? Or will be left to the officer&#039;s discretion?

Should I use &quot;sir&quot; if I want to ask the officer a question? Of would that not show enough respect?

Maybe I should just use &quot;your highness&quot; or &quot;your majesty&quot; to be on the safe side? Or would that be considered too sarcastic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there going to be a list of unacceptable words so we know what we are and aren&#8217;t allowed to call them? Or will be left to the officer&#8217;s discretion?</p>
<p>Should I use &#8220;sir&#8221; if I want to ask the officer a question? Of would that not show enough respect?</p>
<p>Maybe I should just use &#8220;your highness&#8221; or &#8220;your majesty&#8221; to be on the safe side? Or would that be considered too sarcastic?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Fort Worth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Fort Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a self-respecting cop who has a sense of humor and has been known to eat a donut, I say get a life. Part of this job is taking sh** from people in the course of doing business. If you can&#039;t let it roll off your back you shouldn&#039;t be in this work. The Chief-Inspectors quote was hardly justification for the law--&quot;There are cases where people are either intoxicated, or for other reasons extremely aggressive and very injurious,” he said. “In these cases, this tool might be something that’s practical.” If they are violent and/or intoxicated, it sounds like you have a reason to detain them at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a self-respecting cop who has a sense of humor and has been known to eat a donut, I say get a life. Part of this job is taking sh** from people in the course of doing business. If you can&#8217;t let it roll off your back you shouldn&#8217;t be in this work. The Chief-Inspectors quote was hardly justification for the law&#8211;&#8221;There are cases where people are either intoxicated, or for other reasons extremely aggressive and very injurious,” he said. “In these cases, this tool might be something that’s practical.” If they are violent and/or intoxicated, it sounds like you have a reason to detain them at the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: orangetiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>orangetiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want that patch on my motorcycle jacket SO BAD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want that patch on my motorcycle jacket SO BAD</p>
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		<title>By: stopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>stopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does anyone actually believe any self-respecting cop would ever be seen in a doughnut shop?&quot;

All the time around here. The D&amp;D usually hooks them up for free since they like having the cops around to deter robbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does anyone actually believe any self-respecting cop would ever be seen in a doughnut shop?&#8221;</p>
<p>All the time around here. The D&amp;D usually hooks them up for free since they like having the cops around to deter robbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 Not only do they eat donuts they are Emo too.

So they cry and wear eyeshadow too?  Cops must be different in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 Not only do they eat donuts they are Emo too.</p>
<p>So they cry and wear eyeshadow too?  Cops must be different in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: GF</title>
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		<dc:creator>GF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only do they eat donuts they are Emo too. I knew there was a reason they wore black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do they eat donuts they are Emo too. I knew there was a reason they wore black.</p>
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		<title>By: WmDE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WmDE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a first amendment issue.

Oh Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a first amendment issue.</p>
<p>Oh Canada.</p>
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