Pharyngula: Explore Evolution gets another drubbing — I’m always on the lookout for the latest strategy to destroy the teaching of science in the schools and to replace it with the nonsense that the earth was created intact 6000 years ago. The latest involves a book called “Explore Evolution” and the strategy is the buzz term “strength and weaknesses.” Another code phrase to be on the lookout for is “neo-Darwinism” whatever THAT is.
If you’ve been following the creationist strategy lately, you know that one of their efforts is to push a new and awful textbook, Explore Evolution, in conjunction with the various political bills to endorse a “strengths & weaknesses” theme in the public school science curriculum. Explore Evolution is the type specimen for that teaching technique; it contains nothing but imaginary problems in biology presented in a dueling opinions format, with creationists writing sloppy distortions of biological ideas coupled with creationists writing laudatory explanations based on Intelligent Design creationism.
bobbo & Fusion,
Thanks for the compliments.
bobbo,
You make me sound positively succinct. Have you read my posts? with all due humility, I thought I was guilty of some of the longest posts on the site. (scott defaults to -v for those who speak unix shell. In fact, scott has no -q option.) I’m glad you think my posts are short, but suspect you’re alone in that belief.
#80 Stick to where I disproved your lie:
Scott: “Actually, a little bit of googling on your part would reveal that science has not used the term Law for anything since around the time of Newton.”
When was Joules alive? What century? What Laws did he codify? Is that law part of “science”? How long after Newton did he live?
Enlightenment comes one step at a time…
#79 – Neo-Postdarwinst,
My hats off to the Onion’s Supririor wit! In fact my hats off to the Onion in general, a truly funny publication! So funny indeed you’d hardly think it was American
And so often true that it’s hard to tell it’s not news. It’s why I’ve been reading them almost religiously for 13 years now.
Love to see a book forced on the schools going the other way
Explore Abraham, every thing Abraham spawned is going down as fantasy.
Lets enjoy Neo-Thelism and Weaknesses and Weakernesses
can science find ANY evidence of divinity?
can science find ANY evidence of space aliens on earth?
can science find ANY evidence of ghosts?
Bob Dobbs and the Flying Spaghetti Monster meet in Thunder Dome. ‘winner take all’
Admit it god fearing folks your personal leap of faith is all that you’ve got don’t push your imaginary friends on the rest of us. Just see us in hell if you turn out to be right.
Fill your own kids minds with this tripe at home, our kids want to be ready to compete globally.
# 84 Pink Unicorn said, “can science find ANY evidence of space aliens on earth?”
I think if you dig into Air Force classified files you might find the answer to that question…
#85 – Paddy-trOll,
And that answer would be a resounding no.
The closest we’ve found to aliens were possible fossilized bacteria on meteors from Antarctica. And, even those were indefinite.
So far, luckily, the silence from space has been deafening. Why luckily? Well, we don’t have a statistical universe to study, just this one planet with life as we know it. But, consider what has happened whenever a more technically advanced society has come in contact with a less technically advanced society. Then imagine that aliens can fly here and we can’t fly there, which makes them the more technically advanced society. So, were we to come in contact with real movie style aliens, we would likely fare very badly.
http://tinyurl.com/jgn9r
# 86 Misanthropic Scott said, “And that answer would be a resounding no.”
Cool. When did you get access to those files?
Patty are you saying you have access to these files or do you have a leap of faith in “Air Force classified files” alluded on some TV show or book?
I’d want matter(a being) to be studied or questioned.
All this divinity, space aliens, ghosts ect. this all makes for great fiction,
but keep it out of our science and biology classes.
# 88 Pink Unicorn said, “Patty are you saying you have access to these files”
All I’m going to say is what I said.
#87 – Paddy-trOll,
Cool. When did you get access to those files?
Same time you did my troll. Same time you did.
Isn’t interesting that the same wackos who believe everything on the X-Files are the same idiots who believe that we never landed on the moon. Do you fall into that category as well?
# 90 Misanthropic Scott said, “Same time you did. ”
I never said I did. It is interesting to see how “scientifically” you think.
Deciding what reports say without reading them…
Interesting indeed…
#88 – Pink Unicorn,
I agree with you completely, despite the fact that I don’t believe in you either and would vote to keep you out of our biology class as well. Of course, if someone comes up with a credible find of a pink unicorn living in some remote corner of the world, I may change that opinion.
However, for now, you’re just as real as god.
#85 Paddy-O said, on January 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
# 84 Pink Unicorn said, “can science find ANY evidence of space aliens on earth?”
I think if you dig into Air Force classified files you might find the answer to that question…
# 91 Paddy-O said, on January 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
# 90 Misanthropic Scott said, “Same time you did. ”
I never said I did. It is interesting to see how “scientifically” you think.
Deciding what reports say without reading them…
Interesting indeed…
Pretty contradictory posts on your part, for anyone with even the barest amount of evaluative power.
Exactly what made you think such files either exist or would have the answer if you had not seen them?
Or, are you just blowing it out your ass again troll-e-o?
# 93 Misanthropic Scott said, “Exactly what made you think such files either exist”
#93 Since by your total lack of knowledge regarding Joule and now this question, I’ll answer out of pity.
The US gov has been studying UFO phenomenon since ’47 and refuses to declassify much of the material.
I’m sure EVEN you can figure why it MIGHT be a good idea to study THAT material if you are serious in wanting to nail down evidence one way or another…
Heh, this UFO business is even more irrelevant than some of my tangents.
#94 – Paddy-trOll,
#93 Since by your total lack of knowledge regarding Joule…
I answered your comment about Joule, if you know enough about him to understand the answer. Hint, the answer is in post #80.
The US gov has been studying UFO phenomenon since ‘47 and refuses to declassify much of the material.
And therein lies the claim you are making. In fact, that is a very bold claim indeed.
Please explain how you would know this. I think you are blowing it out your ass as usual. If you have a credible link, post it already.
# 96 Misanthropic Scott said, “I answered your comment about Joule,”
Umm, no. You lied as I documented earlier. Saying a Law can be disproven doesn’t cover your lie about no scientific laws being codified or discovered since Newton.
Either, start telling the truth or, get MUCH better at lying.
# 96 Misanthropic Scott said, on January 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
#94 – Paddy-trOll,
#93 Since by your total lack of knowledge regarding Joule…
I answered your comment about Joule, if you know enough about him to understand the answer. Hint, the answer is in post #80.
Scott: “And therein lies the claim you are making. In fact, that is a very bold claim indeed.”
Not bold at all. It is stated on numerous .gov websites. It is also knowledge that’s been in the public domain since WAY before the internet. (Before you were born).
#97
“Not bold at all. It is stated on numerous .gov websites. It is also knowledge that’s been in the public domain since WAY before the internet. (Before you were born).”
Just because a government says something is so is no reason to believe it, hasn’t the Bush administration taught you anything? Oh and if you think a government is denying some thing meen
BTW I was around for Nixon that’s when we learned that to question your government is the highest form of patriotism.
Sorry this thread has wandered so far from “believers” wasting time and resources in our public schools trying to push their private beliefs.
Paddy rest assured that there is probably life beyond earth the universe it just so big it’s very likely. As to living being stopping by for a visit not likely the universe it just so big. Just like god and heaven and such I wish it were so but I have seen nothing to support this theorem it all come down to faith.
Sorry for all the typos, I’m dyslectic and would get a proof reader for any real world commutations. I hope you people will put up with it.
Slam me for my Ideas please not my writhing
#97 – Paddy-trOll,
Scott: “And therein lies the claim you are making. In fact, that is a very bold claim indeed.”
Not bold at all. It is stated on numerous .gov websites. It is also knowledge that’s been in the public domain since WAY before the internet. (Before you were born).
Huh … numerous .gov sites and you couldn’t find a single one to post a link??!!? Wow!! I think you’ve just taken the title away from James Hill.
You are now Old King Troll!! Way to go. Congratulations your trollness.
And, what does in the public domain mean? First you claim that the documents are classified and that the government refuses to declassify them. Now you claim they are in the public domain. It sounds like “public domain” is just a synonym for “urban legend” to me.