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	<title>Comments on: Australian bush fires: Arsonists Light New Blazes.  Is This Terrorism?</title>
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		<title>By: avagriffon</title>
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		<dc:creator>avagriffon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 36 Glenn E. said,  on February 12th, 2009 at 5:18 am

Might this be how the world of Mad Max got its start? The criminal gangs torched everything?

No insult intended, but does Australia fight its fires the same way the US fights forest fires? Or do they just watch it burn, and see if it will go out on its own? Or maybe they don’t have enough fire breaks, to keep fires isolated. Sorry, but I’m getting the impression that they do fire control and prevention, on the cheap. And then an accident on terrorists.


You are a fracking retard... We are the best in the world in fighting bushfires. We have been doing it for 200 years... We teach the rest of the world how to do it... The fact is these fires took a a lot of people completely by surprise... spot fire caused by falling embers were recorded falling 40 miles of the advancing fire front which was moving at 50mph in 115 degree heat extreme low humidity and 60mph+ gusting winds... The authorities responded as best they could with unprecedented conditions. The entire resources of the US military could not have stopped it... 

That being said the relief efforts after the fire showed just how completely useless FEMA is... 

Terrorists had NOTHING to do with this... If you think so then you really are an ignorant or paranoid delusional and should be medicated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 36 Glenn E. said,  on February 12th, 2009 at 5:18 am</p>
<p>Might this be how the world of Mad Max got its start? The criminal gangs torched everything?</p>
<p>No insult intended, but does Australia fight its fires the same way the US fights forest fires? Or do they just watch it burn, and see if it will go out on its own? Or maybe they don’t have enough fire breaks, to keep fires isolated. Sorry, but I’m getting the impression that they do fire control and prevention, on the cheap. And then an accident on terrorists.</p>
<p>You are a fracking retard&#8230; We are the best in the world in fighting bushfires. We have been doing it for 200 years&#8230; We teach the rest of the world how to do it&#8230; The fact is these fires took a a lot of people completely by surprise&#8230; spot fire caused by falling embers were recorded falling 40 miles of the advancing fire front which was moving at 50mph in 115 degree heat extreme low humidity and 60mph+ gusting winds&#8230; The authorities responded as best they could with unprecedented conditions. The entire resources of the US military could not have stopped it&#8230; </p>
<p>That being said the relief efforts after the fire showed just how completely useless FEMA is&#8230; </p>
<p>Terrorists had NOTHING to do with this&#8230; If you think so then you really are an ignorant or paranoid delusional and should be medicated</p>
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		<title>By: sebold</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it is dailymail.co.uk has a sketch of a middle-eastern looking kid as an arson suspect they&#039;re looking for in the australian fires, which is why I used google to search for people stating a connection and came across this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it is dailymail.co.uk has a sketch of a middle-eastern looking kid as an arson suspect they&#8217;re looking for in the australian fires, which is why I used google to search for people stating a connection and came across this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: sebold</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremist muslims may be idiots in philosophic/meaning of life area but why do people assume they are otherwise complete idiots without normal IQ? Many 9/11 terrorists had university degrees.
Anyone would be able to see in terms of damage potential instead of them just thinking &quot;terrorism is setting off small bombs, its what we do!&quot;
Also its alot easier, how many of us know how to make a bomb compared to lighting a fire?
Why would the culprits need to call in and says its &quot;Allah&#039;s revenge!&quot; when it would simply increase their chance of being caught?
No-one would want to be caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremist muslims may be idiots in philosophic/meaning of life area but why do people assume they are otherwise complete idiots without normal IQ? Many 9/11 terrorists had university degrees.<br />
Anyone would be able to see in terms of damage potential instead of them just thinking &#8220;terrorism is setting off small bombs, its what we do!&#8221;<br />
Also its alot easier, how many of us know how to make a bomb compared to lighting a fire?<br />
Why would the culprits need to call in and says its &#8220;Allah&#8217;s revenge!&#8221; when it would simply increase their chance of being caught?<br />
No-one would want to be caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25, Aussie,

Thank you for the update and on the site explanations. Truly, we wish things improve some for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25, Aussie,</p>
<p>Thank you for the update and on the site explanations. Truly, we wish things improve some for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now the US automakers finally have a market for all those unsold cars. Unless the steering wheels go on the right side, in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now the US automakers finally have a market for all those unsold cars. Unless the steering wheels go on the right side, in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might this be how the world of Mad Max got its start? The criminal gangs torched everything?

No insult intended, but does Australia fight its fires the same way the US fights forest fires? Or do they just watch it burn, and see if it will go out on its own? Or maybe they don&#039;t have enough fire breaks, to keep fires isolated. Sorry, but I&#039;m getting the impression that they do fire control and prevention, on the cheap. And then an accident on terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might this be how the world of Mad Max got its start? The criminal gangs torched everything?</p>
<p>No insult intended, but does Australia fight its fires the same way the US fights forest fires? Or do they just watch it burn, and see if it will go out on its own? Or maybe they don&#8217;t have enough fire breaks, to keep fires isolated. Sorry, but I&#8217;m getting the impression that they do fire control and prevention, on the cheap. And then an accident on terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sel, 
WOW, someone has been reading my posts...
IF the terrorists had been WANTING to cause damage to cits..
there are many other ways then to destroy BUILDINGS..
that would cause MORE problems then killing 3000 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sel,<br />
WOW, someone has been reading my posts&#8230;<br />
IF the terrorists had been WANTING to cause damage to cits..<br />
there are many other ways then to destroy BUILDINGS..<br />
that would cause MORE problems then killing 3000 people.</p>
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		<title>By: Selvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect there&#039;s been concern for some time that terrorists would do such a thing as happened in Australia, several years ago. Here&#039;s a clip, look it up:

&quot;FROM JOSEPH FARAH&#039;S G2 BULLETIN
Terrorists plotted setting U.S. fires
Muslim bulletin boards advocated arson before California blazes

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Posted: October 29, 2007
8:36 pm Eastern
 
WASHINGTON – While websites frequented by jihadis have been ablaze with claims of responsibility for setting the California wildfires, terror leaders also urged arson attacks as a tactic last summer, according to a new report in Joseph Farah&#039;s G2 Bulletin. 

In July, a post was made to numerous jihadist boards and then spread to a number of blogs citing a previously issued fatwa authorizing the setting of forest fires as a weapon of jihad. The post began &quot;this is an invitation to the Muslims of Europe and America, Australia and Russia to burn forests.&quot; It went on to state the justification under Islamic Sharia law for this action and to cite its benefits for jihadists. 

The post, revealed in G2 Bulletin&#039;s report, cites an undated video that shows Abu Mus&#039;ab al Suri, author of &quot;Call to Global Islamic Resistance&quot; and advocate of the doctrine of individual terrorism, discussing the benefits to the jihad of setting forest fires.&quot;


It&#039;s easy to start a fire, the circumstances are perfect. And to have a group of motivated Jihadis doing it in a Western country...

If not bombs, then some other means of causing mayhem will do. So it could be some regular crackpots or it could be something more. And Australia&#039;s had its share of troubles with Arab/muslim groups, such as Lebanese gangs which were running amok in certain cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect there&#8217;s been concern for some time that terrorists would do such a thing as happened in Australia, several years ago. Here&#8217;s a clip, look it up:</p>
<p>&#8220;FROM JOSEPH FARAH&#8217;S G2 BULLETIN<br />
Terrorists plotted setting U.S. fires<br />
Muslim bulletin boards advocated arson before California blazes</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Posted: October 29, 2007<br />
8:36 pm Eastern</p>
<p>WASHINGTON – While websites frequented by jihadis have been ablaze with claims of responsibility for setting the California wildfires, terror leaders also urged arson attacks as a tactic last summer, according to a new report in Joseph Farah&#8217;s G2 Bulletin. </p>
<p>In July, a post was made to numerous jihadist boards and then spread to a number of blogs citing a previously issued fatwa authorizing the setting of forest fires as a weapon of jihad. The post began &#8220;this is an invitation to the Muslims of Europe and America, Australia and Russia to burn forests.&#8221; It went on to state the justification under Islamic Sharia law for this action and to cite its benefits for jihadists. </p>
<p>The post, revealed in G2 Bulletin&#8217;s report, cites an undated video that shows Abu Mus&#8217;ab al Suri, author of &#8220;Call to Global Islamic Resistance&#8221; and advocate of the doctrine of individual terrorism, discussing the benefits to the jihad of setting forest fires.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to start a fire, the circumstances are perfect. And to have a group of motivated Jihadis doing it in a Western country&#8230;</p>
<p>If not bombs, then some other means of causing mayhem will do. So it could be some regular crackpots or it could be something more. And Australia&#8217;s had its share of troubles with Arab/muslim groups, such as Lebanese gangs which were running amok in certain cities.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An eye for an eye would say anyone who set those fires should be tied to a stake and burned to death. 

I think I&#039;d settle for shot dead.

Nobody has the right to do this.

I suppose the problem is that the Ausses have been to busy confiscating all the guns and knives to worry about matches.

Yeah I know. I need to use a spell checker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An eye for an eye would say anyone who set those fires should be tied to a stake and burned to death. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d settle for shot dead.</p>
<p>Nobody has the right to do this.</p>
<p>I suppose the problem is that the Ausses have been to busy confiscating all the guns and knives to worry about matches.</p>
<p>Yeah I know. I need to use a spell checker.</p>
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		<title>By: QB</title>
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		<dc:creator>QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian Red Cross is taking donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian Red Cross is taking donations.</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/pessimism 101

bah.. it was probably done over/near key water/aquifer areas to facilitate the creation of water shortage headlines (and legislation) coming soon at a paid mainstream media hack near you...


-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/pessimism 101</p>
<p>bah.. it was probably done over/near key water/aquifer areas to facilitate the creation of water shortage headlines (and legislation) coming soon at a paid mainstream media hack near you&#8230;</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: jcj7161</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcj7161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG OMG SHreek!!! SHREEK!!
The Mexicans err Australian terrorists are coming!!! AHHHHH
OMG OMG SHreek!!! SHREEK!!
The Mexicans err Australian terrorists are coming!!! AHHHHH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG OMG SHreek!!! SHREEK!!<br />
The Mexicans err Australian terrorists are coming!!! AHHHHH<br />
OMG OMG SHreek!!! SHREEK!!<br />
The Mexicans err Australian terrorists are coming!!! AHHHHH</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/11/australian-bush-fires-arsonists-light-new-blazes-is-this-terrorism/comment-page-2/#comment-1486488</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear would make a great pet. It feeds itself.

Too bad it shits everywhere..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear would make a great pet. It feeds itself.</p>
<p>Too bad it shits everywhere..</p>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/11/australian-bush-fires-arsonists-light-new-blazes-is-this-terrorism/comment-page-2/#comment-1486398</link>
		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13. Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another BS story. No facts, just what the cops say.</description>
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