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	<title>Comments on: Tucson Home Invasion Thwarted by Gun Owner</title>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1520451</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Texas and about 2 hours from Mexico. With that said almost every one I know has more then one gun and many of them including me have a few semi auto rifles and handguns, I am a law-abiding citizen and never take the guns out unless I need them. Like the occasional Snake or coyote that comes around but if some one tries to come trough my door or any of my neighbors, I’m really sure they will meet a wall of copper and lead. I work with a guy that has cams set up in his house that he watches from work and my neighbor has them too, I’m about to get some one in the near future my self.
It not paranoia but when I work an hour away and my wife and kid are home alone and they are 15min from town I’d like to keep any eye on things.

Especially with the rise in Dug gang increasing in the area, we are just off a major drug route into Texas from Mexico and a couple of neighboring towns have been overrun and own city official. They keep the police from patrolling the high crime area unless some thing happens there like a shooting. A lot of you don’t understand it’s not just an invasion down here its all out war and takeover and the police and Boarder patrol have their hands tied by the feds and some local government officials. For the most part they can only react to incidents not help prevent them.

My home is protected by K9\dogs, AK47, SKS, Ruger, and Mossberger with full-metal-jackets..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Texas and about 2 hours from Mexico. With that said almost every one I know has more then one gun and many of them including me have a few semi auto rifles and handguns, I am a law-abiding citizen and never take the guns out unless I need them. Like the occasional Snake or coyote that comes around but if some one tries to come trough my door or any of my neighbors, I’m really sure they will meet a wall of copper and lead. I work with a guy that has cams set up in his house that he watches from work and my neighbor has them too, I’m about to get some one in the near future my self.<br />
It not paranoia but when I work an hour away and my wife and kid are home alone and they are 15min from town I’d like to keep any eye on things.</p>
<p>Especially with the rise in Dug gang increasing in the area, we are just off a major drug route into Texas from Mexico and a couple of neighboring towns have been overrun and own city official. They keep the police from patrolling the high crime area unless some thing happens there like a shooting. A lot of you don’t understand it’s not just an invasion down here its all out war and takeover and the police and Boarder patrol have their hands tied by the feds and some local government officials. For the most part they can only react to incidents not help prevent them.</p>
<p>My home is protected by K9\dogs, AK47, SKS, Ruger, and Mossberger with full-metal-jackets..</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1504026</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, a family member was witness to events leading up to the arson (smelled gasoline fumes coming next door and heard comments arsonist made), and much to my dismay the California State Bomb and Arson agency compelled the family member to become the State&#039;s main witness against the arsonist.  That&#039;s when the treats came, and the sherrif told me I&#039;d have to protect my family myself.  Witness protection cannot be guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, a family member was witness to events leading up to the arson (smelled gasoline fumes coming next door and heard comments arsonist made), and much to my dismay the California State Bomb and Arson agency compelled the family member to become the State&#8217;s main witness against the arsonist.  That&#8217;s when the treats came, and the sherrif told me I&#8217;d have to protect my family myself.  Witness protection cannot be guaranteed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1504023</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the gun argument...I lived in Calif. in a nice middle class neigborhood in the mountains.  Twice in my life, I have been told by law enforcement officials that I would have to protect my familiy myself because we lived too far from a police station for them to react quickly.  In one case we were threatened by the perpetrator of an arson (homeowner torched his house for insurance after earthquake), and the other case we had been burglarized repeatedly (while we were away).

When my mother was a small girl in the 1920s, the Cosanostra (mafia)targeted the family.  The FBI armed my grandfather (a banker) and escorted my mother and her sister to &amp; from school.  The mob firebombed the bank (before FDIC), everyone lost their deposits, and the family nearly went bankrupt.  However, nobody in my family was killed and some mob guys were arrested.  I wonder if I would have been born if my grandfather (and FBI) couldn&#039;t have protected the family.

For all you fools who think that guns should be banned, think again.  &quot;Civility&quot; is a very thin veneer atop man&#039;s age-old behavior of physical domination of others for power, and it is very difficult for law enforcement to guarantee everyone&#039;s safety all the time.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the gun argument&#8230;I lived in Calif. in a nice middle class neigborhood in the mountains.  Twice in my life, I have been told by law enforcement officials that I would have to protect my familiy myself because we lived too far from a police station for them to react quickly.  In one case we were threatened by the perpetrator of an arson (homeowner torched his house for insurance after earthquake), and the other case we had been burglarized repeatedly (while we were away).</p>
<p>When my mother was a small girl in the 1920s, the Cosanostra (mafia)targeted the family.  The FBI armed my grandfather (a banker) and escorted my mother and her sister to &amp; from school.  The mob firebombed the bank (before FDIC), everyone lost their deposits, and the family nearly went bankrupt.  However, nobody in my family was killed and some mob guys were arrested.  I wonder if I would have been born if my grandfather (and FBI) couldn&#8217;t have protected the family.</p>
<p>For all you fools who think that guns should be banned, think again.  &#8220;Civility&#8221; is a very thin veneer atop man&#8217;s age-old behavior of physical domination of others for power, and it is very difficult for law enforcement to guarantee everyone&#8217;s safety all the time.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: JJOOJOOO</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1491791</link>
		<dc:creator>JJOOJOOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the owner of this house is a drug dealer im telling you this from personal expirence that he is i live by him and i have been doing buissness with him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the owner of this house is a drug dealer im telling you this from personal expirence that he is i live by him and i have been doing buissness with him</p>
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		<title>By: puppyfeet</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1490799</link>
		<dc:creator>puppyfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, a couple things to correct misperceptions:

The &#039;person&#039; with the gunbelt in the video is a sheriff, shown walking the property AFTER the incident.

&quot;This&quot; part of Tucson is not a hellhole at all, but a very nice, quiet neighborhood nestled up against the mountains. That homeowner has done much to improve the property in the time they&#039;ve been there.

It&#039;s always interesting to me how people make statements as &#039;factual&#039; when they know nothing about the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a couple things to correct misperceptions:</p>
<p>The &#8216;person&#8217; with the gunbelt in the video is a sheriff, shown walking the property AFTER the incident.</p>
<p>&#8220;This&#8221; part of Tucson is not a hellhole at all, but a very nice, quiet neighborhood nestled up against the mountains. That homeowner has done much to improve the property in the time they&#8217;ve been there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always interesting to me how people make statements as &#8216;factual&#8217; when they know nothing about the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: talkingpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkingpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop assuming this guy was a drug dealer, if you took the time to read the follow up articles you would have learned it was a border patrol agent. Cartels, drug dealer, whatever. Alot of times it&#039;s is just some punks trying to make it easy. Home invasion has risen here in Tucson, it used to be 1 every couple months now it has risen to several a month. So my suggestion is arm yourself and be prepared cause it may hit anyone. One last thing, take better care on your aim. So we can have one less punk with a gun out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop assuming this guy was a drug dealer, if you took the time to read the follow up articles you would have learned it was a border patrol agent. Cartels, drug dealer, whatever. Alot of times it&#8217;s is just some punks trying to make it easy. Home invasion has risen here in Tucson, it used to be 1 every couple months now it has risen to several a month. So my suggestion is arm yourself and be prepared cause it may hit anyone. One last thing, take better care on your aim. So we can have one less punk with a gun out there.</p>
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		<title>By: thaDeetz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1489151</link>
		<dc:creator>thaDeetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 55 GetReal said,  on February 14th, 2009 at 6:19 am 
said:
&quot;Some liberals are mistakenly anti-gun; but the CONSERVATIVES are the ones who caused our present economic and foreign policy problems. (or maybe you just can’t bring yourself to believe your own eyes)&quot;

Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter?  Ever heard of &quot;Red-Lining&quot; under Clinton and Reno?  Ever heard of the Cloward-Piven Strategy, especially in light of Rahm Emanuel&#039;s &#039;never pass up a good crisis to implement transformational change&#039; comment on Fox News Sunday?

Prolly not, but ignorance of pure fact has never deterred mouth-breathing socialists in the past.  The GOP tried numerous times to reign the malfeasance of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but were branded as &#039;racists&#039; by the Black Congressional Caucus every time they tried to reimpose sanity.

Granted the GOP is not perfect, but the only political party actively and openly pursuing the outright subversion of the Constitution are the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 55 GetReal said,  on February 14th, 2009 at 6:19 am<br />
said:<br />
&#8220;Some liberals are mistakenly anti-gun; but the CONSERVATIVES are the ones who caused our present economic and foreign policy problems. (or maybe you just can’t bring yourself to believe your own eyes)&#8221;</p>
<p>Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter?  Ever heard of &#8220;Red-Lining&#8221; under Clinton and Reno?  Ever heard of the Cloward-Piven Strategy, especially in light of Rahm Emanuel&#8217;s &#8216;never pass up a good crisis to implement transformational change&#8217; comment on Fox News Sunday?</p>
<p>Prolly not, but ignorance of pure fact has never deterred mouth-breathing socialists in the past.  The GOP tried numerous times to reign the malfeasance of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but were branded as &#8216;racists&#8217; by the Black Congressional Caucus every time they tried to reimpose sanity.</p>
<p>Granted the GOP is not perfect, but the only political party actively and openly pursuing the outright subversion of the Constitution are the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: CHICO</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHICO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think all of this is planned here in tucson many other home invasions are happening day after day, this is just one caught on video people acctually live out of this types of situations,plus another thing why this happends here in the south side of tucson is because there is a lot of Drug trafficking and many cartels try to take over money or drugs in this type of case i would think it would be money. People here in the south side ridin on Rims like the ones on the crystler had, you dont see very often from people who Jack..these type of people who do home invasions are called &quot;BAJADORES&quot; they are people who take money away from smugglers and drug dealers...and i think this situation had to do with something with this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think all of this is planned here in tucson many other home invasions are happening day after day, this is just one caught on video people acctually live out of this types of situations,plus another thing why this happends here in the south side of tucson is because there is a lot of Drug trafficking and many cartels try to take over money or drugs in this type of case i would think it would be money. People here in the south side ridin on Rims like the ones on the crystler had, you dont see very often from people who Jack..these type of people who do home invasions are called &#8220;BAJADORES&#8221; they are people who take money away from smugglers and drug dealers&#8230;and i think this situation had to do with something with this</p>
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		<title>By: mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that many of the police and border patrol agents are so called Hispanic if you watch tv news in areas like Tucson.

If our government would just give the home invading Mexican&#039;s/Hispanic&#039;s, the rest of the our job&#039;s as border patrol agents and or police, they would have everything they want. A job that pays good, excitement of the hunt, legal right to carry fire arms. 

We need to just give it all up. If we open the border the Mexican&#039;s can just walk across the border and they won&#039;t be breaking any law. If we just give them our jobs without need to be here legally they won&#039;t be breaking the law. If we do these things we would have much less home invasion. 

Give them everything we have and we can just go live out of grocery carts, with no worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that many of the police and border patrol agents are so called Hispanic if you watch tv news in areas like Tucson.</p>
<p>If our government would just give the home invading Mexican&#8217;s/Hispanic&#8217;s, the rest of the our job&#8217;s as border patrol agents and or police, they would have everything they want. A job that pays good, excitement of the hunt, legal right to carry fire arms. </p>
<p>We need to just give it all up. If we open the border the Mexican&#8217;s can just walk across the border and they won&#8217;t be breaking any law. If we just give them our jobs without need to be here legally they won&#8217;t be breaking the law. If we do these things we would have much less home invasion. </p>
<p>Give them everything we have and we can just go live out of grocery carts, with no worries.</p>
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		<title>By: GetReal</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1488157</link>
		<dc:creator>GetReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 25 Guy Fawkes said, &quot;This is where neosocialism is taking us&quot;

Some liberals are mistakenly anti-gun; but the CONSERVATIVES are the ones who caused our present economic and foreign policy problems. (or maybe you just can&#039;t bring yourself to believe your own eyes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 25 Guy Fawkes said, &#8220;This is where neosocialism is taking us&#8221;</p>
<p>Some liberals are mistakenly anti-gun; but the CONSERVATIVES are the ones who caused our present economic and foreign policy problems. (or maybe you just can&#8217;t bring yourself to believe your own eyes)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1488127</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53, BD,

The cameras don&#039;t help those with illegal activities. In fact, the police get a hold of the tapes and that could be incriminating. Surveillance cameras can help the police find culprits and retrieve stolen merchandise. They also are an indication that there is a security system in place.

Most likely this guy was suspected of having valuables that somebody thought they wanted more than the owner, OR, someone was doing a real cheap hit because he pissed them off. Most certainly there is more to this story than we have been told so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53, BD,</p>
<p>The cameras don&#8217;t help those with illegal activities. In fact, the police get a hold of the tapes and that could be incriminating. Surveillance cameras can help the police find culprits and retrieve stolen merchandise. They also are an indication that there is a security system in place.</p>
<p>Most likely this guy was suspected of having valuables that somebody thought they wanted more than the owner, OR, someone was doing a real cheap hit because he pissed them off. Most certainly there is more to this story than we have been told so far.</p>
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		<title>By: bdsmith1981</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1488026</link>
		<dc:creator>bdsmith1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... I agree about the whole story not being here.  This type of ting just does not happen to normal ppl. 4 guys wielding automatic weapons in a 300C with 20&quot; rims?  yeah, no drugs involved there. This guy is probably a dealer that screwed someone over or the attackers just knew he was sitting on a large pile of cash.  Anyway,  most ppl who do not have large amounts of narcotics in their house do not feel it necessary to have CCTV&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; I agree about the whole story not being here.  This type of ting just does not happen to normal ppl. 4 guys wielding automatic weapons in a 300C with 20&#8243; rims?  yeah, no drugs involved there. This guy is probably a dealer that screwed someone over or the attackers just knew he was sitting on a large pile of cash.  Anyway,  most ppl who do not have large amounts of narcotics in their house do not feel it necessary to have CCTV&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1487966</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a feeling the homeowner played Half-Life pretty often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling the homeowner played Half-Life pretty often.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-2/#comment-1487937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5, bobbo,

&lt;i&gt;If your problem is a mosquito infested swamp, you don’t clean it up by adding more mosquitoes.&lt;/i&gt;

Are you trying to give all these idiots a headache trying to figure that one out?

*

#49, Common Sense

Good comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5, bobbo,</p>
<p><i>If your problem is a mosquito infested swamp, you don’t clean it up by adding more mosquitoes.</i></p>
<p>Are you trying to give all these idiots a headache trying to figure that one out?</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>#49, Common Sense</p>
<p>Good comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/12/home-invasion-thwarted-by-gun-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-1487930</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37, Ace,

Yup. That was a test and you aced it. 87% of all answers falling into the bullshit category are really made up, 19% are phony, and 11% are complete fabrications. 

And I have to hand it to you about those Global worms. Whew!!! Spread the news there bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37, Ace,</p>
<p>Yup. That was a test and you aced it. 87% of all answers falling into the bullshit category are really made up, 19% are phony, and 11% are complete fabrications. </p>
<p>And I have to hand it to you about those Global worms. Whew!!! Spread the news there bro.</p>
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