Comments on: Householders to be charged for each flush of toilet http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:16:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1490260 bobbo Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:04:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1490260 #35--oven==watering the front lawn is again different from OVERWATERING the front lawn causing runoff, a type of toilet usage if you will. Again==there is definitely and factually a difference between the simply receipt of water and what you do with it thereafter==all justifying additional charges as the authority may decide. Simple economics really. Amusing how many people can't think rationally if two sentences contain the same word, there must be a equivalency thereafter no matter what else is being discussed? Water, water everywhere. Not a drop to drink. #35–oven==watering the front lawn is again different from OVERWATERING the front lawn causing runoff, a type of toilet usage if you will.

Again==there is definitely and factually a difference between the simply receipt of water and what you do with it thereafter==all justifying additional charges as the authority may decide.

Simple economics really.

Amusing how many people can’t think rationally if two sentences contain the same word, there must be a equivalency thereafter no matter what else is being discussed?

Water, water everywhere. Not a drop to drink.

]]> By: OvenMaster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1490259 OvenMaster Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:58:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1490259 #34: "A toilet flush is a burden on the public utility. A watering of the front lawn is not." Guess again. My town is looking into fees for runoff from properties, such as soap from washing you car, pet waste, insecticide use, and lawn fertilizer. All go into the storm drain system and allegedly cause environmental harm because they don't get treated by the sanitary sewer system. #34: “A toilet flush is a burden on the public utility.

A watering of the front lawn is not.”

Guess again. My town is looking into fees for runoff from properties, such as soap from washing you car, pet waste, insecticide use, and lawn fertilizer. All go into the storm drain system and allegedly cause environmental harm because they don’t get treated by the sanitary sewer system.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1490133 bobbo Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:28:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1490133 A toilet flush is a burden on the public utility. A watering of the front lawn is not. There is a logical and practical additional burden regarding toilets not present in other water use activities. You can still disagree about a discrete charge, as reasonable people will. A toilet flush is a burden on the public utility.

A watering of the front lawn is not.

There is a logical and practical additional burden regarding toilets not present in other water use activities.

You can still disagree about a discrete charge, as reasonable people will.

]]> By: John C Dvorak http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1490127 John C Dvorak Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:17:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1490127 #4 #8 EXACTLY people should be charged (and they ARE) for water usage, not what the water is used FOR. I cannot understand people finding this acceptable. #4 #8 EXACTLY people should be charged (and they ARE) for water usage, not what the water is used FOR. I cannot understand people finding this acceptable.

]]> By: brendal http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1490112 brendal Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:04:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1490112 I am betting vegetarians have to flush more. I am betting vegetarians have to flush more.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489985 pedro Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:13:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489985 #30 Breathing in is OK, is the exhaling that should be banned. #30 Breathing in is OK, is the exhaling that should be banned.

]]> By: dcphill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489884 dcphill Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:28:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489884 That's a load of crap. But if we all stopped breathing, think of all of the CO2 that will be eliminated. That tax is self defeating. That’s a load of crap.
But if we all stopped breathing, think of all
of the CO2 that will be eliminated. That tax is
self defeating.

]]> By: George http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489875 George Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:05:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489875 Pay for usage is SO last century! Make people who don't use the sewer pay! My county government through corruption and incompetence racked up $3.2 billion in bond debt on a $1 billion sewer project. One solution? People that aren't hooked up to the sewer but could be may pay a $30/mo "non-user" fee. People that can't be hooked up may pay a $20/mo "clean water" fee. We will pay for -NOT- using the system. Interested? Look up Jefferson County, Alabama in Wikipedia. Pay for usage is SO last century! Make people who don’t use the sewer pay! My county government through corruption and incompetence racked up $3.2 billion in bond debt on a $1 billion sewer project.

One solution? People that aren’t hooked up to the sewer but could be may pay a $30/mo “non-user” fee. People that can’t be hooked up may pay a $20/mo “clean water” fee.

We will pay for -NOT- using the system.
Interested? Look up Jefferson County, Alabama in Wikipedia.

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489843 deowll Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:34:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489843 Um, I guess just charging them for the amount of water they use would be to simple. Um, I guess just charging them for the amount of water they use would be to simple.

]]> By: Glenn E. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489819 Glenn E. Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:11:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489819 Neat idea. So the single guy, living in a costly mansion and pees in the backyard, because he "eccentric" and is saving on his water bill, NOW gets charged less, than the large poor family living in the trailer park, with eight kids. Yeah, these reassessed tax plans always seem to benefit the rich. And penalize the poor. And who do want to bet lobbied for this? Certainly NOT the poor. Meanwhile the water hogging Country Clubs don't get penalized for keeping their courses green, during Perth's drought. Neat idea. So the single guy, living in a costly mansion and pees in the backyard, because he “eccentric” and is saving on his water bill, NOW gets charged less, than the large poor family living in the trailer park, with eight kids. Yeah, these reassessed tax plans always seem to benefit the rich. And penalize the poor. And who do want to bet lobbied for this? Certainly NOT the poor. Meanwhile the water hogging Country Clubs don’t get penalized for keeping their courses green, during Perth’s drought.

]]> By: unixchick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489812 unixchick Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:56:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489812 Reminds me of a monty python skit... guess they will want to tax "thingy" next. Reminds me of a monty python skit… guess they will want to tax “thingy” next.

]]> By: RSweeney http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489792 RSweeney Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:42:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489792 In my area, we have always paid a sewage fee based on water use. If you want to sprinkle your lawn, you get a separate meter. In my area, we have always paid a sewage fee based on water use.

If you want to sprinkle your lawn, you get a separate meter.

]]> By: Li http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489787 Li Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:31:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489787 Taxing people based upon their household value is a stupid policy; it does nothing to encourage conservation. As much as I would prefer to see basic per-gallon water charges raised rather than some sort of taxing scheme, this is bound to be more effective and more fair than the previous policy. Taxing people based upon their household value is a stupid policy; it does nothing to encourage conservation. As much as I would prefer to see basic per-gallon water charges raised rather than some sort of taxing scheme, this is bound to be more effective and more fair than the previous policy.

]]> By: Robart http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489769 Robart Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:42:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489769 Everyone drink the Kool-Aid and repeat after me: Greater good.... Greater good.... Greater good.... Greater good....... Everyone drink the Kool-Aid and repeat after me: Greater good…. Greater good…. Greater good…. Greater good…….

]]> By: East Coast A-hole http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/17/householders-to-be-charged-for-each-flush-of-toilet/comment-page-2/#comment-1489768 East Coast A-hole Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:40:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=40556#comment-1489768 California should follow lead and charge a tax for every fart. Cali's going down... (Seriously, John, how bad is the economy over there?) California should follow lead and charge a tax for every fart.

Cali’s going down…

(Seriously, John, how bad is the economy over there?)

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