This is from The Pirate Bay who is having an interesting time being prosecuted in court this past week. Follow posts on the ongoing trial here.
And don’t forget that your Congress wants to enact laws that may make doing normal things like email on the Interwebitubes illegal, require ISPs, etc to keep records of everything you do on the web and cause ordinary people to lose access to the web for downloading a song. At least some are trying to repeal the ban in on-line gambling. Just like drug laws, prohibition doesn’t work.
My god people… don’t you know how much cocaine and hookers cost these days? How is David Geffen going to afford to snort coke off the asses of gay boys anymore? How is Sony going to afford payola to Clear Channel to get them to play Brittany Spears any more? Think of all the poor people you evil pirates are hurting!
@GregA
Can you share some of whatever medication you are on?
GregA,
You remind me of my dad, still singing barbershop quartet songs. The music scene has changed- you’re old, get over it. The reason you don’t see flashing titties anymore is because the women are all over 50 at the concerts you would go to. Young tits are flashed (i.e. Girls Gone Wild), just not in your direction. BTW, if you think pot was good, you should experience the new designer drugs.
#10, Avoid these trackers as much as you can. Most of these are scams because they know people will willingly donate. I don’t have a problem with donations but history has proven that they will always increase their asking donation amount every month or so. This isn’t new and has been going for a few years. As most “hackers” believe, their work is release free of charge to the public. You can always find providers that cater to the same beliefs.
Having said the above, I am not telling anyone here to go out and pirate software, music, videos or what have you. I’m just stating that these websites asking for donations are usually a scam to get money in their pockets for providing something that is free in the first place.
I’ve just started amassing my movie collection onto my two new 1.5TB hard drives. I’m waiting for a deal on the Pioneer player you’ve mentioned or the Phillips (I own a lower model without usb support). Now I have most of my videos and music converted (Quad-core helps hahah) converted and on my PC. Tapes, 8-tracks, VHS, etc all converted…took a while
GregA,
I really think you need to get out more. Most of your comments don’t do you any justice. I don’t even attend most of these in person but I at least get around to read about them!
1. Websites that provides links to sources of downloads killing the music industry? How about you just say all search engines are killing everything. That would be more accurate.
2. No concerts and house bands? Umm, there’s plenty here in San Diego still, and in LA. Sure, there might not be as many as before with the internet being so popular and cheap to market and advertise but they’re still there. You must be out in the country or something?
#24,
Wow, Im looking at ticketmaster right now for San Diego, and that is pretty desperate if you think that is a happening music scene. Quite sad really.
Can you post a local a link to your local zine so we can see what your small venue scene is like?
#24,
Looked at Ticketmaster for LA.
So LA in 2009 has about the same music scene as Toledo Ohio did in the 80′s. Woah. I’d say that is music scene death.
Woah, Coldplay is gonna play a venue in LA that has 27,000 seats(and its not sold out). When I saw the Greatful dead in 93 at Buckeye Lake (rural Ohio) there were 100,000 people there.
Yeah, this modern music scene is sooooo happening….
#24,
Oh you had a question as well. How about Rollingstone magazine? Right now on the front page they have an interview with a guy who wrote a book about how downloads killed the music industry.
Seems we touched a sensitive Chord with GregA on Music.
I just think times are changing. People, like me, are willing to pay for HD quality content on a easy-to-use platform.
The Cable Co HD DVR has it right – except for content. An actual HD movie (DVD Quality) costs 2$ MORE than if I go to the video rental store.
What gives???
Ya, I’ve had to up my Cable Co / ISP a higher download cap, costing me an extra 30$ per month, but now I get true HD quality (nearly) on-demand movies and TV shows.
I haven’t rented anything in over a year now.
However, if Hollywood was smart and allowed a DRM’ed (24hr to watch) movie / tv show with publicity on a sponsored DVR box.
Box would be 99$ to buy, movie 2$, TV show 1$.
However, currently it’s:
Box 599$ Movie 6$ TV Show 3$
So Hollywood has caused the problems themselves by not publishing properly to the Internet.
When they do, I’ll gladly switch, and instead of paying 70$ / 100G per month for Internet from my Cable Co, I’ll get the standard 35$ / 20G per month.
Streaming music albums would also be easy, and inexpensive, rendering CD’s obsolete.
#28,
I just want the pirates to know that, like it or not, their actions have had consequences.
GragA,
You really should stop being cynical. You’re acting as though everyone is against you and you’re the only one that has a point to make and the right one. Listen, music is still happening whether you choose to want to to believe or not.
I’ve already said that it might not be the same as previous years with the internet impacting it so much…in terms of marketing and advertising. That STILL doesn’t mean the scene is dead. Downtown San Diego is still active with bars and restaurants with live bands and music. Pacific Beach is the same. There’s great diversity of music going on here. You really need to get out more instead of relying on ticketmaster for all your news feeds and forecasts.
As for whether or not Internet has impacted the music industry, it has. There’s no question and doubt to that. However, blaming a website that posts search links to content on the internet is utterly ridiculous.
In terms of downloads, I’m not sure if you’re talking about legal downloads or pirated downloads. In both cases, yes digital downloads will affect the profit margins. Which and who’s margins? Well, that’s yet to be explore. However, a few artists are doing well not having the middle-man expenses and where they are doing most of the work for themselves. So if they can get a hit and have their songs downloaded legally for $1, more or less, then that’s direct profit for them. H
However, this isn’t the place to be discussing this issue as it is more involve than just saying digital download is killing the industry. That’s your and others perspective. Mine is that the industry needs to adjust and come up with ways to market, advertise and sell their content via the internet. Industry isn’t all losing their artist due to the internet. Artist are smarter now and can do the work for themselves and reap the benefits quite a bit more than they would under a record label.
If you’re so pissed at digital downloads, don’t use a computer. All downloads are digital and by your rule it’s bound to kill some industry somewhere *shrug*
If they want me to watch commercials, then the cable companies can charge the providers more, and let me watch for free. It seems to work for broadcast stations, so no utterly retarded comments about cable’s “superior service” Har, har, har, har, har… oh stop it, I can’t breathe I’m laughing so hard. Hell, if they fucking want me to watch commercials, they should pay me!
Of course, downloads — legal or not — are killing the Music Industry. The Music Industry is an archaic leftover from times past.
With the ability of artists to record their own music in their basement that rivals what can be produced in multi-million dollar studios (assuming they have talent) and the ability to sell music through iTunes and other outlets, who needs the Music Industry?
The only reason it still exists at all is because not everyone has switched over to digital downloads. Lots of the less-technical still buy CDs. When that market finally dies off in, to pick a timeframe, 10 years, again, who needs the Music Industry?
Downloading killed music industry, not the music.
Anyone who is crying for the fat pigs RIAA/MPAA members) is an idiot.
GregA, check out how much the big boys (of RIAA members) make every year.
There was not a single year they’ve been paid less than year before it, obviously their business runs great.
What better proof you need that the *music industry* is doing well?
If anything, downloading would have killed *music industry* – not the music.
GregA, check out how much the big boys (of RIAA members) make every year.
There was not a single year they’ve been paid less than year before it, obviously their business runs great.
What better proof you need that the *music industry* is doing well?
Anyone who is crying for the fat pigs RIAA/MPAA members) is just an idiot.
#31 GetSmart – it’s all about Tivo-like functionality and commercial skipping or not.
History shows that Hollywood never embraces technology advances for the consumer – just like the Pirate cartoon indicates.
Exception being an over-use of CGI in their shows / movies.
#31 – If YOU decide now, before going to bed, that you want to watch the three consecutive shows of Heroes, tomorrow night (or soon), and had a choice of :
- HD, 1$ 43 minutes no commercials
- HD, Free, 60 minutes with commercials
I would pay the 1$ – as the “download” doesn’t count towards my monthly download cap.
I doubt DVD quality movies would ever be free including commercials – but they could be cheaper than a Blockbuster rental if there’s three minutes of embedded commercials.
I would call such an interruption a bathroom break.
FWIW – music download links on Pirate Bay don’t ever even make the Overall Top 100 Torrents. Heroes, Prison Break, 24, Lost, Audio Books, Games, and recent movies ALL the time.
If it’s so easy for anyone to record their own music in their basement, then why are bands renting studios and signing with the big labels?
How can you say that the movie industry should just sell their movies for $1?
The budgets for movies are different than for movies, and of course even if they did sell for $1, you guys would complain about that and get the free pirated stuff.
@Getsmart
Im not paying for anything that has commercials in it if they dont allow me to skip it. That is a fact.
Also US music market isn’t the world.
Most of countries have much less restrictive copyright laws and – unlike here in USA – they have real piracy problem (i.e. in many Russian and Chinese stores you get to choose between “original” CD, “fake” CD that looks like original including covers/booklet, and the cheap junk CD that is just a CD)
AND YET (!!!)
their musicians, singers and bands still DO SELL a lot of their music.
If you believe what RIAA is saying, you might as well believe Earth is flat.
#16: “I could download my favorite 3 stooges episode (Men In Black) for $3.50.”
You can do it for free with VDownloader and YouTube. Works like a charm.
#2: to call the $hit that’s on the radio today “music” is being very generous.
Lousy music sales are due to lousy music.