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	<title>Comments on: Finally&#8230; Government bans &#8216;Downer&#8217; Cows from Food Supply</title>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-2/#comment-1501022</link>
		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/me lights a match...


-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me lights a match&#8230;</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Deep-Thought</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-2/#comment-1500860</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep-Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might give them a incentive to treat the cows better during transport.
As soon as it costs them money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might give them a incentive to treat the cows better during transport.<br />
As soon as it costs them money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-2/#comment-1500743</link>
		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clues for the clueless, 5¢

what a putz.. it&#039;s a powergrab by agrobiz and the feds, you brainwashed xxxx.. this is a springboard action to help foster support for Bill: H.R. 875 -and that bill is leading to the UN&#039;s Codex Alimentarius crap (effective dec 31,09)

the bill&#039;s sponsor&#039;s husband works for Monsanto
-see how that works??????????

(my god, if i had a nickel for every gullible
fool i run across..)
go here for a snippet of the tip of the iceburg
on HR875. it outlines some of the points for those who have trouble thinking.

Federal Takeover of Food Regulation in H.R. 875
http://naturalnews.com/025824.html
 

HR875 BILL: http://govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-875

open your eyes.
(and turn off your tv)

-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clues for the clueless, 5¢</p>
<p>what a putz.. it&#8217;s a powergrab by agrobiz and the feds, you brainwashed xxxx.. this is a springboard action to help foster support for Bill: H.R. 875 -and that bill is leading to the UN&#8217;s Codex Alimentarius crap (effective dec 31,09)</p>
<p>the bill&#8217;s sponsor&#8217;s husband works for Monsanto<br />
-see how that works??????????</p>
<p>(my god, if i had a nickel for every gullible<br />
fool i run across..)<br />
go here for a snippet of the tip of the iceburg<br />
on HR875. it outlines some of the points for those who have trouble thinking.</p>
<p>Federal Takeover of Food Regulation in H.R. 875<br />
<a href="http://naturalnews.com/025824.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://naturalnews.com/025824.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://naturalnews.com/025824.html</a></p>
<p>HR875 BILL: <a href="http://govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-875" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-875' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-875</a></p>
<p>open your eyes.<br />
(and turn off your tv)</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-2/#comment-1500695</link>
		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, people, this isn&#039;t rocket science.  A cow that can&#039;t stand up is most likely sick.  You want to eat beef from a sick cow?  Not me.

Oh!  Oh!  I have an idea!  We should just let those nice cattlemen do &lt;i&gt;whatever&lt;/i&gt; they want without any of that burdensome government regulation!  After all, it worked so well with those nice Wall Street men, didn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, people, this isn&#8217;t rocket science.  A cow that can&#8217;t stand up is most likely sick.  You want to eat beef from a sick cow?  Not me.</p>
<p>Oh!  Oh!  I have an idea!  We should just let those nice cattlemen do <i>whatever</i> they want without any of that burdensome government regulation!  After all, it worked so well with those nice Wall Street men, didn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-2/#comment-1500638</link>
		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 &amp; 8 -more or less says it all.

--
um.. this is just a sham.. they are only addressing the symptoms and not the CAUSE.

this is done so they look good in the eyes of the un-informed public...and the industial scale agrobiz monopoly gets to continue it&#039;s unscrupulous practices (and stuff money in the right &quot;holes&quot;)

the problem is what they are feeding the livestock..madcow, stems from feeding livestock the brains and neural tissue
(spinal cord etc) from compromised animals. 

downers...who knows. probably due to use/overuse of rBGH and antibiotics. GMO feed
has been proven in studies done outside the US
to cause all sorts of defects, many which are more pronounced in second and esp third generations. -cloned animals are not helping the issues much either.

anyway..the feed is the root problem. any legislation that does not address the feed issue just proves the regulators are still taking money from the &quot;vested interests&quot; and
don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about public health
or the health of the livestock. (one and the same?) 

madcow is not an issue. just makes for great sound bites.

the fact that most of the higher-ups in the FDA used to work or lobby for a biotech/ag companies says it all.

that obama selected tom vilsack as secretary of agriculture.. -a biotech-gmo/industrial 
farming poster child, just proves it&#039;s business as usual on capitol hill.

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
change you can believe in. (?)
::yawn::

-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 &amp; 8 -more or less says it all.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
um.. this is just a sham.. they are only addressing the symptoms and not the CAUSE.</p>
<p>this is done so they look good in the eyes of the un-informed public&#8230;and the industial scale agrobiz monopoly gets to continue it&#8217;s unscrupulous practices (and stuff money in the right &#8220;holes&#8221;)</p>
<p>the problem is what they are feeding the livestock..madcow, stems from feeding livestock the brains and neural tissue<br />
(spinal cord etc) from compromised animals. </p>
<p>downers&#8230;who knows. probably due to use/overuse of rBGH and antibiotics. GMO feed<br />
has been proven in studies done outside the US<br />
to cause all sorts of defects, many which are more pronounced in second and esp third generations. -cloned animals are not helping the issues much either.</p>
<p>anyway..the feed is the root problem. any legislation that does not address the feed issue just proves the regulators are still taking money from the &#8220;vested interests&#8221; and<br />
don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about public health<br />
or the health of the livestock. (one and the same?) </p>
<p>madcow is not an issue. just makes for great sound bites.</p>
<p>the fact that most of the higher-ups in the FDA used to work or lobby for a biotech/ag companies says it all.</p>
<p>that obama selected tom vilsack as secretary of agriculture.. -a biotech-gmo/industrial<br />
farming poster child, just proves it&#8217;s business as usual on capitol hill.</p>
<p>meet the new boss, same as the old boss.<br />
change you can believe in. (?)<br />
::yawn::</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-1500505</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19, McCullough,

Then you know you&#039;re doing something right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19, McCullough,</p>
<p>Then you know you&#8217;re doing something right.</p>
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		<title>By: McCullough</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-1500430</link>
		<dc:creator>McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17. Well it never fails. When I criticized Bush, I&#039;m a leftie, criticize Obama, and I&#039;m a right wing-nut. 

Whatever. You gotta love hard core left/right true believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17. Well it never fails. When I criticized Bush, I&#8217;m a leftie, criticize Obama, and I&#8217;m a right wing-nut. </p>
<p>Whatever. You gotta love hard core left/right true believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Usagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Udderly rediculous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Udderly rediculous!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16, McCullough,

Ya, you should be critical !!!

Uummm, what?

Never mind.

*

Getting serious, I have faith that Obama&#039;s choices to lead oversight agencies will be far better than the previous Administration. They would have a hard time being worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16, McCullough,</p>
<p>Ya, you should be critical !!!</p>
<p>Uummm, what?</p>
<p>Never mind.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>Getting serious, I have faith that Obama&#8217;s choices to lead oversight agencies will be far better than the previous Administration. They would have a hard time being worse.</p>
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		<title>By: McCullough</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-1500394</link>
		<dc:creator>McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14. 
You kept your damn mouth shut because:
- you were either a “true believer”
- you were afraid of being called a traitor, or
- you thought you’d get arrested and sent to Guantanamo.



Ha, ha. You must be new to the blog. Welcome. You can click on my name above, go back in time and educate yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14.<br />
You kept your damn mouth shut because:<br />
- you were either a “true believer”<br />
- you were afraid of being called a traitor, or<br />
- you thought you’d get arrested and sent to Guantanamo.</p>
<p>Ha, ha. You must be new to the blog. Welcome. You can click on my name above, go back in time and educate yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: MLB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/14/finallygovernment-bans-downer-cows-from-food-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-1500384</link>
		<dc:creator>MLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14. I disagree. We should&#039;ve been as critical of the previous administration as we were and we shouldn&#039;t stop being critical just because the new guy is new.

The facts are that the President has made a lot of blunders in his appointees. Dvorak&#039;s &quot;No Agenda&quot; shows even more mistakes/lies about the new executive branch than the other media does. So, to have a Dvorak blogger be cynical of an Obama pick is one of the more likely and more logical things to have happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14. I disagree. We should&#8217;ve been as critical of the previous administration as we were and we shouldn&#8217;t stop being critical just because the new guy is new.</p>
<p>The facts are that the President has made a lot of blunders in his appointees. Dvorak&#8217;s &#8220;No Agenda&#8221; shows even more mistakes/lies about the new executive branch than the other media does. So, to have a Dvorak blogger be cynical of an Obama pick is one of the more likely and more logical things to have happen.</p>
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		<title>By: GetReal</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I only hope Obama makes a wiser choice for the FDA than he has with his other appointments, I promise not to hold my breath.&quot;

Damn! He&#039;s been President for 2 months and you are second guessing every breath he takes. Where the F***k were you for the last 8 years??!! 

You kept your damn mouth shut because:
- you were either a &quot;true believer&quot;
- you were afraid of being called a traitor, or
- you thought you&#039;d get arrested and sent to Guantanamo.

President Obama and our country have  immense challenges and he&#039;s doing a great job with nothing but roadblocks from the so called &quot;loyal opposition&quot;.

So STFU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I only hope Obama makes a wiser choice for the FDA than he has with his other appointments, I promise not to hold my breath.&#8221;</p>
<p>Damn! He&#8217;s been President for 2 months and you are second guessing every breath he takes. Where the F***k were you for the last 8 years??!! </p>
<p>You kept your damn mouth shut because:<br />
- you were either a &#8220;true believer&#8221;<br />
- you were afraid of being called a traitor, or<br />
- you thought you&#8217;d get arrested and sent to Guantanamo.</p>
<p>President Obama and our country have  immense challenges and he&#8217;s doing a great job with nothing but roadblocks from the so called &#8220;loyal opposition&#8221;.</p>
<p>So STFU!</p>
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		<title>By: Pagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 rogparish
Your comments are correct, and the theory that explains it is called &quot;Capture&quot;.

Capture - In public choice theory and political science, capture is said to occur when bureaucrats or politicians, who are supposed be acting in the public interest, end up acting systematically to favor particular vested interests. The theory of capture is associated with the Nobel laureate economist George Stigler, one of its main developers. 

from Wikipedia
---------------

In plain language - it is business buying the government.

For too long we have had &quot;follow the money&quot; instead of &quot;we the people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 rogparish<br />
Your comments are correct, and the theory that explains it is called &#8220;Capture&#8221;.</p>
<p>Capture &#8211; In public choice theory and political science, capture is said to occur when bureaucrats or politicians, who are supposed be acting in the public interest, end up acting systematically to favor particular vested interests. The theory of capture is associated with the Nobel laureate economist George Stigler, one of its main developers. </p>
<p>from Wikipedia<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>In plain language &#8211; it is business buying the government.</p>
<p>For too long we have had &#8220;follow the money&#8221; instead of &#8220;we the people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can use the downer cows for animal feed.</description>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called the Food Safety Modernization Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called the Food Safety Modernization Act.</p>
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