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Two US navy vessels have collided in the Strait of Hormuz near Iran, lightly injuring 15 sailors, the US navy said. A nuclear-powered submarine, the USS Hartford, and amphibious transporter the USS New Orleans collided early on Friday, the US Navy Fifth Fleet said.

The incident is being investigated and damage to both ships is being evaluated, a navy statement said.

The New Orleans’ fuel tank was ruptured in the crash, causing a spill of 25,000 gallons of diesel.

No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans, according to the statement from the Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain.

The atomic propulsion system of the submarine was not damaged by the incident, the statement said.

The US Fifth Fleet…patrols an area of about 7.5 million square miles of sea in the Middle East and eastern Africa. You’d think with that much room they could keep from running into each other.




  1. bill says:

    How come we even heard of this?
    WTF business is it outside of the NAVY?

  2. Paddy-O says:

    # 20 Benjamin said, “Over all, I see two new openings for captains.”

    Why? The CO of the surface ship wouldn’t know where an attack sub was… Not his responsibility.

  3. LibertyLover says:

    #22, As an ex-sailor, I agree with Ben. You bend your ship, you are sailing a desk — unless it got bent during battle.

    The only thing that will save New Orleans is, ironically, the same thing that probably bent his ship in the FIRST place — gross incompetence on the part of Hartford.

    More people have walked on the moon then those who have kept their commands after a collision at sea.

    That being said, my ship got bent and the old man kept his job. We were tied up for repairs to another ship in the Med when a massive storm hit. We couldn’t get untied fast enough and they bounced into each other. Nothing major but the captain almost lost his command over a broken safety railing and lost raft. I think the “act of God” defense worked in his favor.

  4. Miguel says:

    God dammit, you americans have so many ships they’re already bumping into each other!

  5. deowll says:

    The posts were insightful but I’d have thought that at least the surface ship could have detected a near surface sub but if there is enough background racket maybe not. The subs are made to run silent.

  6. Santa Maria says:

    This is ridiculous. The Iranians should give up their territorial waters in the area for international shipping access. Or an allied coalition should force them to. Why should we put the lives of our sailors in danger for such silly bureaucratic borders…

  7. bobbo says:

    #26–Santa==two ships run into each other in the middle of the ocean and you blame the ocean.

    hah, hah. Good one.

  8. Talk to the Hand says:

    This harkens back to the satellite collision. We are having a mini cold war with the Russians and they are f’ing with our satellite guidance systems. How else do you explain all the “collisions” we’ve had in the last few months.

  9. Santa Maria says:

    #27, Bobbo

    I am not blaming the ocean. I am blaming the government of Iran for failing to provide wide enough navigation channel due to their territorial rights – especially around Qesh island. The government of Iran should be forced to give up sea territorial claims there for our benefit..

    We are the strongest military power ever on Earth – why should we follow Iranian rules to the detriment of our sailors’ life and health? We should do what’s in our best interest.

  10. bobbo says:

    #29–Santa==you are going to argue the point?

    You could learn for Paddy -O- Zero==its marginally better to tell people you are right and they can look it up on the interwebitudes.

    Well, you are wrong practically, philosophically, historically and – - – and, are there any other ways?

    No country should give up any rights to their territorial rights except as viewed as in their own best interests. By maintaining their terrorterial (yes) rights they upped the odds the US Navy would run into itself just like Congress over the bailout fiasco.

    Should USA act unilaterally in violation of well established international law? That requires analysis. Who has more international waters that we would like and argue that everyone else should respect? Iran or USA?

    Its hard to be a bully yet recognize the schoolyard of pencil necks can beat you if they get motivated to gang together, but thems the rules.

  11. Santa Maria says:

    “you are wrong practically, philosophically, historically and – - – ”

    Well, that’s a fundamental difference there. I believe that we (as in the US) don’t owe anyone any moral, philosophical or any other kind of historical obligation.

    Our only obligation is our magnanimity in letting others live on the face of this earth, and other nations have to subserviently earn that privilege.

    We are militarily so vastly powerful than anyone else (everyone else put together too?). Why should we not use that to our advantage? Why tie our own hands with international law?

    Why should we argue with anyone that our territories have to be respected? Our military posture should be such that no one would dare interfere with us..

    I am a strong proponent of such a robust military posture. We need Presidents who would order gunboats into Tokyo Bay to get what “we” want despite what “they” want….

  12. ECA says:

    can you say…BEEP BEEP..

  13. Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:

    http://tinyurl.com/db2sqm

  14. bobbo says:

    #31–Santa==I only wish what you say is true. Ever play “The International Game of Conflict” or RISK? No one can win if everyone else hangs together. ((You do have to modify the cards to limit the award of armies.—just like reality does.))

    Every No 1 World Power has lost that status by thinking they could beat everyone else combined.

    I think its called hubris.

  15. m.c. in l.v. says:

    #31 Santa Maniac – George Bush is that you? Or did John McSenile finally learn how to use the interwebtubes?

  16. Troublemaker says:

    This is what happens when you have a volunteer military. How STUPID can a person be to enlist for military service? You get losers and crack heads that can’t get employment anywhere else in the real world.

  17. Troublemaker says:

    Some complete and utter drooling piece of SHIT said,

    Our only obligation is our magnanimity in letting others live on the face of this earth, and other nations have to subserviently earn that privilege.

    We are militarily so vastly powerful than anyone else (everyone else put together too?). Why should we not use that to our advantage? Why tie our own hands with international law?

    Why should we argue with anyone that our territories have to be respected? Our military posture should be such that no one would dare interfere with us.

    I hope you mouth off like that and get the crap beaten out of you some day.

  18. badtimes says:

    #31- you’re joking, right?

  19. Mr Diesel says:

    I sure hope that this is all just sarcasm on Santa’s part.

    Otherwise Santa is a complete idiot.

  20. Dallas says:

    Turn left. No, MY left!



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