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	<title>Comments on: Parrot honored for warning that girl was choking</title>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504710</link>
		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still have the scar where a sulfur crested parrot peeled my fingernail off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still have the scar where a sulfur crested parrot peeled my fingernail off.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504607</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parrots are super smart creatures... except for my mother&#039;s sun conure that ate one of her diamond earrings. Not so smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parrots are super smart creatures&#8230; except for my mother&#8217;s sun conure that ate one of her diamond earrings. Not so smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504564</link>
		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but it&#039;s thin.</description>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504506</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9--Olo==post hoc ergo proctor hoc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9&#8211;Olo==post hoc ergo proctor hoc?</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504503</link>
		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Mr. Skeptic...why did the bird wait until  the kid was choking to make a ruckus?

This is like creationism...there&#039;s plenty of evidence but the target keeps getting moved by the deniers. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Mr. Skeptic&#8230;why did the bird wait until  the kid was choking to make a ruckus?</p>
<p>This is like creationism&#8230;there&#8217;s plenty of evidence but the target keeps getting moved by the deniers. <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504479</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7--Olo==humans are animals too, something you and the article are not taking into account at all.

I skimmed the article and found nothing relevant to the case at hand.  Are we learning more about the universe around us including other species?  Yes.  Article just last week about chimps or gorillas &quot;planning&quot; an attack against a rival tribe to take place a few hours later.  Not surprising at all.  Language skills without verbalization skills also always interesting.

But if you want to claim to &quot;know&quot; the mind of this bird rather than be skeptical, thats fine.  You are just evidencing your mind, as I am mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7&#8211;Olo==humans are animals too, something you and the article are not taking into account at all.</p>
<p>I skimmed the article and found nothing relevant to the case at hand.  Are we learning more about the universe around us including other species?  Yes.  Article just last week about chimps or gorillas &#8220;planning&#8221; an attack against a rival tribe to take place a few hours later.  Not surprising at all.  Language skills without verbalization skills also always interesting.</p>
<p>But if you want to claim to &#8220;know&#8221; the mind of this bird rather than be skeptical, thats fine.  You are just evidencing your mind, as I am mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504474</link>
		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bobbo, your explanation is rational in terms of the traditional assumptions of animal intelligence. Read the article. Those assumptions are turning out to be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobbo, your explanation is rational in terms of the traditional assumptions of animal intelligence. Read the article. Those assumptions are turning out to be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504459</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5--Olo==I agree animals have sensory abilities many times more acute than humans.  Dogs and Cats smelling cancer for instance, or hearing their owners car on the road 30 seconds before the car is heard by humans and 2 minutes before parking in the driveway.  The observed behavior can be linked to very specific skills present in the animal.

Maybe this bird reacted to &quot;something&quot; but &quot;the behavior&quot; of the child is doubtful.  One characteristics of HUMANS is to anthropomorphize all animals and especially their pets.  More people think their pets are more perceptive than they really are.

So I linked the animals behavior to something most animals react to--their food.

Seems to me until confirming repeat demonstrations are documented, or the exact stimulus the bird was reacting to is identified and explained, that my explanation is far more rational than an article on chimps learning sign language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5&#8211;Olo==I agree animals have sensory abilities many times more acute than humans.  Dogs and Cats smelling cancer for instance, or hearing their owners car on the road 30 seconds before the car is heard by humans and 2 minutes before parking in the driveway.  The observed behavior can be linked to very specific skills present in the animal.</p>
<p>Maybe this bird reacted to &#8220;something&#8221; but &#8220;the behavior&#8221; of the child is doubtful.  One characteristics of HUMANS is to anthropomorphize all animals and especially their pets.  More people think their pets are more perceptive than they really are.</p>
<p>So I linked the animals behavior to something most animals react to&#8211;their food.</p>
<p>Seems to me until confirming repeat demonstrations are documented, or the exact stimulus the bird was reacting to is identified and explained, that my explanation is far more rational than an article on chimps learning sign language.</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504457</link>
		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bobbo...read this article if you have time:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text.html

I&#039;ve had birds, and they can do some amazing stuff. Everyone with a &#039;smart&#039; bird breed can tell you the same type of stories, maybe not as dramatic as this one, but don&#039;t dismiss the possibility that some birds have real intelligence and awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobbo&#8230;read this article if you have time:<br />
<a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had birds, and they can do some amazing stuff. Everyone with a &#8216;smart&#8217; bird breed can tell you the same type of stories, maybe not as dramatic as this one, but don&#8217;t dismiss the possibility that some birds have real intelligence and awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504449</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More likely, the parrot was just pissed the kiddie was eating HIS bird food.  But we humans need heroes, a steady supply of heroes.  Just like parrots need cereal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More likely, the parrot was just pissed the kiddie was eating HIS bird food.  But we humans need heroes, a steady supply of heroes.  Just like parrots need cereal.</p>
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		<title>By: Uglogical</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504448</link>
		<dc:creator>Uglogical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bird is certainly no &quot;birdbrain&quot;
Unfortunately the term &quot;birdbrain&quot;  does refer to many of the human beings i meet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bird is certainly no &#8220;birdbrain&#8221;<br />
Unfortunately the term &#8220;birdbrain&#8221;  does refer to many of the human beings i meet</p>
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		<title>By: BillM</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504447</link>
		<dc:creator>BillM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me back when the parrot performs the Heimlich maneuver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me back when the parrot performs the Heimlich maneuver.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Ripper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/24/parrot-honored-for-warning-that-girl-was-choking/comment-page-1/#comment-1504442</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I understand why pirates keep these things on thier shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I understand why pirates keep these things on thier shoulders.</p>
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