Aides to former Republican presidential nominee John McCain questioned running mate Sarah Palin’s ongoing second-guessing of the McCain campaign.
The McCain aides were responding to a report on CNN that the governor got a laugh when she told a GOP audience in Alaska she had declined to pray with McCain staffers prior to her debate with Joe Biden, who was elected vice president in November.
Describing the pre-debate atmosphere, Palin told the crowd last Friday, she was “looking for somebody to pray with, I just need maybe a little help, maybe a little extra.”
“The people that she has, either working at her (political action committee) or advisers in Alaska, aren’t exactly making the best decisions for her,” the staffer said.
Should not-so-Christian Republicans get prepared to follow sacred writ?
# 38 bobbo said, on March 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
#36–Alfie==if God isn’t directly intervening in the market isn’t he irrelevant and its up to us?
Do you use the bible as guidance for your stock investments?
HAR!!!!!
God told me to invest in the stocks that went up, but it was the devil who told me to buy the stocks that went down. “Somehow, I couldn’t tell the difference!”
Religious wing nuts. woot, woot!!!!
You’ll learn how relevant God is…as you are thrust down headlong into a fiery hell…
It is impossible you hear voices in your mind…sound doesn’t carry in a vacuum.
#41Alfred1 said,
“You’ll learn how relevant God is…as you are thrust down headlong into a fiery hell”
hey..someone remind bobbo to bring marshmallows
(and a vacuum cleaner?)
# 42 soundwash said, on March 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
#41Alfred1 said,
“You’ll learn how relevant God is…as you are thrust down headlong into a fiery hell”
hey..someone remind bobbo to bring marshmallows
(and a vacuum cleaner?)
You left loons are inconsistent..
While denying Bible teaching…you no doubt believe you have a soul that survives death…
AND you believe the core of the earth is lava…
AND you believe gravity affects all things…
= burn in hell once your body no longer allows your soul to remain standing on the earth.
Notice scripture doesn’t disagree an outside force is required to prevent a soul’s descent into the core of the earth…which is certainly hellish by any definition:
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments,
(Luk 16:22-23 KJV)
#25, guyver,
RE my comment about why they are unnamed. Christy has a secure, tenured job. Tenure means he can only be fired for extremely egregious conduct. The political “aids” don’t have that protection. They require a good reputation for their next job.
And if Obama can keep things going, …
So even the Republican Party’s problems are Obama’s fault.
21, You strangely sound communist … communists are all about redistribution of wealth.
Good for Mr. Smith. If he is a religious person. For that is the kind of person Jesus was.
I’ll have to disagree with the worshipping of the Almighty Dollar part. You see it as worship, I see it as I am entitled to keep what I earn.
The very thing Mr. Smith said. And one of the things that drew the wrath of Jesus.
It’s my money and not yours. I’ve earned every penny of it and you’re not entitled to it because you’re pro-socialism.
Gee, I have this mental image of you, in a dirty long, tattered coat, with a ripped pocket; clutching a bag of coins to your chest protectively, long fingers trying to hide the bag; your matted, stringy hair disheveled, hanging in your face; your long hooked nose pointing over your shoulder; the warts visible under the crud encrusted filth; muttering through the spittle how this is all yours, it is YOUR money.
#41, Alphie, the Quaalude Queen,
It is impossible you hear voices in your mind…sound doesn’t carry in a vacuum.
Say what? That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Sound does travel in a vacuum and technology rested on that fact for a few of decades.
“squawk, Houston, we can’t hear you, there is a vacuum outside the space capsule, squawk”
If you were trying to be witty, you failed miserably. You did, however, demonstrate once again how childish you are.
BTW, when are you going to post that evidence that Obama sold drugs?
#42, soundwash,
hey..someone remind bobbo to bring marshmallows
(and a vacuum cleaner?)
Now that’s funny.
:0
#44, Alphie, the Quaalude Queen,
Book 1, Chapter 1
And the Lord said “Let there be light”
And you could see for fucking miles in every god damn direction. You could even see that cocksucker hooking up a fucking tow truck to your stupid illegally parked car.
Then the Lord said, “Let there be rain”. And it pissed like hell all fucking day. Backed up the motherfucking sewers too. Talk about shitty weather.
Then the Lord said unto Moses, “Come forth”. And the fucking guy came in second. Blew the trifecta. Whoa!!! Was God ever pissed about that! Geeze, he had a bundle wagered too on that chariot race. So he kicked the fucking asshole out of Egypt.
And to this day it has been our tradition not to trust fucking A-Rabs. Especially if they walk like an Egyption.
Where are all the Liebertarians with their “Personal Responsibility” rants?
# 48 Mr. Fusion said, on March 28th, 2009 at 9:23 am
#44, Alphie, the Quaalude Queen,
Book 1, Chapter 1
And the Lord said “Let there be light”
And you could see for fucking miles in every god damn direction. You could even see that cocksucker hooking up a fucking tow truck to your stupid illegally parked car.
Then the Lord said, “Let there be rain”. And it pissed like hell all fucking day. Backed up the motherfucking sewers too. Talk about shitty weather.
Then the Lord said unto Moses, “Come forth”. And the fucking guy came in second. Blew the trifecta. Whoa!!! Was God ever pissed about that! Geeze, he had a bundle wagered too on that chariot race. So he kicked the fucking asshole out of Egypt.
And to this day it has been our tradition not to trust fucking A-Rabs. Especially if they walk like an Egyption.
You must think you are a wit… you are half right.
What blasphemy you write! Clearly something is preying upon your mind…but not to worry, it will surely die soon of starvation.
Jumping from Noah to Moses, for no reason…are you having trouble making up what’s left of your mind…if you will pardon the exaggeration.
One thing is clear, not having anything to say doesn’t stop you from saying it. I wonder if your parents had any children that lived.
Geeze, I haven’t heard such taunts since I was in grade school. It must have taken you a long time to come up with such original material.
If Palin needs other people to pray with her, she’s not ready. She needs to work to strengthen her incantations so she doesn’t need any support group.
# 51 Mr. Fusion said, on March 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Geeze, I haven’t heard such taunts since I was in grade school. It must have taken you a long time to come up with such original material.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. (Pro 26:5 KJV)
I prefer reasoned discussion of issues, but you introduced yourself to me, as a fool…calling me “alfie”, and taunting me, hoping ad hominem would make you popular with the other loons…and maybe it has.
Put this under your hat…I know you gots lots of room under there…
If you persist in taunts, rather than reasoned discussion of the issues, I will always taunt better than you…and either way, I’ll enjoy myself….
#53–Alfie==hah, hah. Yes, a legend in your own mind.
Actually, I lost a challenge to you a few weeks ago and I don’t think I confirmed that I did read the bible passage you identified. It was one of the more famous ones, feeding the multitude from a single loaf of bread and other issues. Struck me as just a fairy tale, not a parable or morality tale, or anything of worth that is instructive/useful about life. Just a fairy tale. Seems like your quote from proverbs would have been more useful and instructive?
One reason you get quickly taunted is that your arguments are not seen as reasonable, therefore reasonable discourse really is as proverbs says.
This shows that certain groups of people really don’t have much of a shot at resolving their differences because “discussion” has its limits and applicability. Makes me think of the Arabs and Jews. The groups won’t resolve their viewpoints until forced to by some outside group or they get tired of killing each other and learn to leave each other alone–hard to do when they want to occupy the same space==be it desert or blog.
# 54 bobbo said, on March 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
#53–Alfie==hah, hah. Yes, a legend in your own mind.
Actually, I lost a challenge to you a few weeks ago and I don’t think I confirmed that I did read the bible passage you identified. It was one of the more famous ones, feeding the multitude from a single loaf of bread and other issues. Struck me as just a fairy tale, not a parable or morality tale, or anything of worth that is instructive/useful about life. Just a fairy tale. Seems like your quote from proverbs would have been more useful and instructive?
John 6 is an event/parable teaching one must ingest Christ entire for eternal life, not just the outer religion, but His life also, it is the spirit which gives life, the flesh (orthodoxy) by itself profits nothing.
You must be born again, as Christ said:
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
(Joh 3:6-8 KJV)
There was a wonderful future for you in that chapter, try reading it again. A better gift I could not give you than Christ Himself.
One reason you get quickly taunted is that your arguments are not seen as reasonable, therefore reasonable discourse really is as proverbs says.
Taunts, ad hominem, is the debate tactic of the logically challenged…its what people do who do not know how to prove their points…
Rather than discuss the reasons why they are right, they divert attention from the issue to something else…
Obama is a master at that…he definitely learned how to think critically…but he did so to masterfully deceive. Only those who know arguments can discern he has learned the rules well, alas, to deceive, mislead and manipulate.
This shows that certain groups of people really don’t have much of a shot at resolving their differences because “discussion” has its limits and applicability. Makes me think of the Arabs and Jews. The groups won’t resolve their viewpoints until forced to by some outside group or they get tired of killing each other and learn to leave each other alone–hard to do when they want to occupy the same space==be it desert or blog.
You misunderstand why I prefer reasoned argument…while it would be good if someone confesses the other is right…that rarely happens…rather my goal is to present a side of the facts my “opponent” hasn’t considered…and therefore, in the privacy of his thoughts later, he returns to the issue and begins to see it in a new light…perhaps eventually even adopting my position.
Or, my “opponent” present facts or a perspective I was blind to…and that forces me to reconsider a position.
I doubt anyone will “convince” the other is right…people believe what they believe for more other reasons quite apart from sound logic.
I prefer reasoned argument to ad hominem because the latter presents no means of rejecting my “opponent’s position.”
When my “opponent” details WHY he believes XYZ, I have a possible counter if I see a fallacy he is unaware of…
But if all we do is taunt each other…nothing real is being discussed.
#55–Alfred==I take your point, but there is no logic to religion, only belief and repetition in illogical dogma. (No “facts” either.)
Can there be truth in illogical dogma? I used to say it was impossible, but I have mellowed and simply say: “I’ve never seen an example of it.” The mathematical proofs are beyond my understanding.
ps …when you and Fusion call me “alfie”…an image comes to mind…you two dancing limp wristed in the moonlight…or feverishly flashing your headlights at each other…in some dark parking lot…
But I see you on top, pitching.
# 57 bobbo said, on March 28th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
#55–Alfred==I take your point, but there is no logic to religion, only belief and repetition in illogical dogma. (No “facts” either.)
Can there be truth in illogical dogma? I used to say it was impossible, but I have mellowed and simply say: “I’ve never seen an example of it.” The mathematical proofs are beyond my understanding.
Incorrect…it was logic that led me to read scripture…
It was the Holy Spirit who bore witness to my spirit that Scripture is the Word of God..admittedly, that is subjective…
BUT it was logic, reason, the obvious flaws in evolutionary thought, that led me to consider the idea of God.
As for my ps…If I saw your #57 before posting it…I wouldn’t have…
I prefer we continue NOT taunting each other..
peace
#59–Alfred==you are not being logical.
Was it logic or the Holy Spirit that lead you to christ?
Evolution is a fact. Logic might take you to some other theory than Darwinism to explain it but it wouldn’t take you to any particular faith. Why one of the many forms of Christianity over all the other similarly anti-factual religions?
You are right only when you say its all subjective==meaning your own emotions.
BTW–thanks for explaining your choice of bible passages. It means so much more to those who have it explained, because to anti-theists like me, the words alone are a fairytale without meaning. Dogma is like that.
Parable: a usually short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle. /// Well ok but how good a parable can it be if a non-believer gets nothing from it? Not very “teaching” in its effect. But like evolution, it does take some initial study before acceptance/rejection is competently approached.