Comments on: EU Wants “Communication Box” in New Cars to Track Drivers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sucksauce http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-2/#comment-1506949 sucksauce Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:32:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506949 Next thing you know they are going to be using the tracking system to electronically file speeding tickets. AFAIK they use that line of thinking on the Jersey Turnpike: you get a time stamped card when you enter the JT and it gets checked when you leave to see how much you should pay (depending where you got on) - but if you *somehow* made it from one end of the JT to the other faster than they deem is possible traveling the speed limit... Next thing you know they are going to be using the tracking system to electronically file speeding tickets.

AFAIK they use that line of thinking on the Jersey Turnpike: you get a time stamped card when you enter the JT and it gets checked when you leave to see how much you should pay (depending where you got on) – but if you *somehow* made it from one end of the JT to the other faster than they deem is possible traveling the speed limit…

]]> By: LibertyLover http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-2/#comment-1506680 LibertyLover Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:06:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506680 #20, Now that's funny, I don't care who you are. #20, Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506612 MikeN Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:23:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506612 #18, I think Bush arranged for Obama to win the presidency as a way to improve his legacy. #18, I think Bush arranged for Obama to win the presidency as a way to improve his legacy.

]]> By: Killer duck http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506596 Killer duck Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:31:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506596 This was proposed in the US years ago, look up OBD-III a proposal to make OBD-II data reported on the go. The fact is, there is no stopping this. The government will find a way to show that this surveillance system stops global warning and reduces child pornography. Then politically it will be cool to do. It may take 5 years, but frankly, OnStar is already there almost. This was proposed in the US years ago, look up OBD-III a proposal to make OBD-II data reported on the go.

The fact is, there is no stopping this. The government will find a way to show that this surveillance system stops global warning and reduces child pornography. Then politically it will be cool to do. It may take 5 years, but frankly, OnStar is already there almost.

]]> By: Paddy-O http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506592 Paddy-O Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506592 #17 - Yeah, I remember the nut jobs on this site predicting Bush declaring martial law to avoid the election. What we got instead was the most comprehensive Presidential apprenticeship in U.S. history. From the info I have, Bush was advised that due to Obama's lack of qualifications to hold even a minor exec position, it would be best to apprentice him as much as possible before the turn over. #17 – Yeah, I remember the nut jobs on this site predicting Bush declaring martial law to avoid the election. What we got instead was the most comprehensive Presidential apprenticeship in U.S. history.

From the info I have, Bush was advised that due to Obama’s lack of qualifications to hold even a minor exec position, it would be best to apprentice him as much as possible before the turn over.

]]> By: Mr Diesel http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506570 Mr Diesel Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:22:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506570 Funny the left wing nut jobs haven't started this here already. You know, the one who said Bush was going to declare martial law and halt elections so he could stay in office..... Funny the left wing nut jobs haven’t started this here already. You know, the one who said Bush was going to declare martial law and halt elections so he could stay in office…..

]]> By: Paddy-O http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506565 Paddy-O Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:02:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506565 Gotta love those left wing nut jobs in the EU. Always thinking of ways to erode civil liberties... Gotta love those left wing nut jobs in the EU. Always thinking of ways to erode civil liberties…

]]> By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506540 BubbaRay Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:05:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506540 #4, Pirate, good idea. There are some rare earth magnets available that are much smaller that will also do the job. Just don't get them near your watch or a doorknob. 200 lbs. pull is a serious magnet! #4, Pirate, good idea. There are some rare earth magnets available that are much smaller that will also do the job. Just don’t get them near your watch or a doorknob.

200 lbs. pull is a serious magnet!

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506537 MikeN Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:58:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506537 why do you hate technology so much? And why are you against fighting global warming? why do you hate technology so much?
And why are you against fighting global warming?

]]> By: Jason http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506496 Jason Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:33:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506496 actually, i never said i wanted this every car. I think if a lot of cars sent traffic data ***anonymously*** that would be great for helping move traffic along. however, i don't think any of this data should be stored on an individual basis or tracked. It's enough to say "a car is moving at 25 MPG on main street at 3:45pm." there is no need to know whose car that is! actually, i never said i wanted this every car. I think if a lot of cars sent traffic data ***anonymously*** that would be great for helping move traffic along. however, i don’t think any of this data should be stored on an individual basis or tracked. It’s enough to say “a car is moving at 25 MPG on main street at 3:45pm.” there is no need to know whose car that is!

]]> By: The Pirate http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506488 The Pirate Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:42:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506488 #6 - It will pick up loose change as you drive down the road, for the hefty fine of course. #6 – It will pick up loose change as you drive down the road, for the hefty fine of course.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506468 ECA Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:15:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506468 AS WELL AS, you having access to it, IF' your car is stollen.. AS WELL AS,
you having access to it, IF’ your car is stollen..

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506467 ECA Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:15:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506467 lets see how much the unit costs, as MOST new car parts are VERY expensive.. Then the service itself.. and WHO do you think foots the bill? lets see how much the unit costs, as MOST new car parts are VERY expensive..
Then the service itself..
and WHO do you think foots the bill?

]]> By: Thinker http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506457 Thinker Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:35:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506457 Pirate, that looks like a serious magnet. :) Pirate, that looks like a serious magnet. :)

]]> By: Thinker http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/30/eu-wants-communication-box-in-new-cars-to-track-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1506456 Thinker Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:34:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=44737#comment-1506456 Tin foil hats on standby! I agree with #2. Of course, I wouldn't tell the DMV in my state when I moved two doors down either. Yeah, they could fine me, but if I tell them my new address what do they do?? Send me a piece of paper I'm supposed to tuck in with my drivers license. Yeah, real serious. Junk mail doesn't have any trouble finding me. Don't tell your magazine you've moved? They figure it out! This is why you don't want the Feds looking at something like this. They'll feel the need to act on our behalf! Tin foil hats on standby!

I agree with #2. Of course, I wouldn’t tell the DMV in my state when I moved two doors down either. Yeah, they could fine me, but if I tell them my new address what do they do?? Send me a piece of paper I’m supposed to tuck in with my drivers license. Yeah, real serious.
Junk mail doesn’t have any trouble finding me. Don’t tell your magazine you’ve moved? They figure it out!

This is why you don’t want the Feds looking at something like this. They’ll feel the need to act on our behalf!

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