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	<title>Comments on: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008</title>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 The Peta solution to cruelty: Death. I know they were your kinda people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 The Peta solution to cruelty: Death. I know they were your kinda people.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 - Mr Fusion,

In case you check back ... I just hate when I see a press release posted as news. So, when I realized it was a press release, I did a little checking into who was releasing to the press and how reliable they are.

Another point I realized later, which is now way too late to make a useful point here, but will post it anyway.

If they want to convince people that PETA is euthanizing animals, it is less effective proof and more underhanded to search for documents that can barely be read than it is to simply point us at PETA&#039;s statement where they admit this freely.

Stating it as an Aha moment and making it sound as if they revealed some deep dark secret when PETA has statements about it on their web site is just nasty and deceitful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 &#8211; Mr Fusion,</p>
<p>In case you check back &#8230; I just hate when I see a press release posted as news. So, when I realized it was a press release, I did a little checking into who was releasing to the press and how reliable they are.</p>
<p>Another point I realized later, which is now way too late to make a useful point here, but will post it anyway.</p>
<p>If they want to convince people that PETA is euthanizing animals, it is less effective proof and more underhanded to search for documents that can barely be read than it is to simply point us at PETA&#8217;s statement where they admit this freely.</p>
<p>Stating it as an Aha moment and making it sound as if they revealed some deep dark secret when PETA has statements about it on their web site is just nasty and deceitful.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misanthropic Scott,

Thank you for getting angry and researching CCF. Your efforts have saved me the effort and time. There are few here that would bother to verify any information they are given. It is always so much easier to just rant on how Obama is screwing the country.

I neither support PETA nor condemn them for everything. Their actions are a little stronger than I like even if I agree with their stance on cruelty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misanthropic Scott,</p>
<p>Thank you for getting angry and researching CCF. Your efforts have saved me the effort and time. There are few here that would bother to verify any information they are given. It is always so much easier to just rant on how Obama is screwing the country.</p>
<p>I neither support PETA nor condemn them for everything. Their actions are a little stronger than I like even if I agree with their stance on cruelty.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63 - pedro,

&lt;i&gt;But if you say that PETA would be able to save more puppies and kiddies if they prayed more, then I’ll have to take your word (see the pun?)&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not saying I agree with PETA on this, nor that I disagree with them, since I don&#039;t know the numbers and costs. However, PETA is claiming that they stop more euthanizations when they &lt;b&gt;spay&lt;/b&gt; more, not pray more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63 &#8211; pedro,</p>
<p><i>But if you say that PETA would be able to save more puppies and kiddies if they prayed more, then I’ll have to take your word (see the pun?)</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I agree with PETA on this, nor that I disagree with them, since I don&#8217;t know the numbers and costs. However, PETA is claiming that they stop more euthanizations when they <b>spay</b> more, not pray more.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/31/peta-killed-95-percent-of-adoptable-pets-in-its-care-during-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-1507124</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 67 Uncle Patso said,  &quot;What else to do with them? Let them run free?&quot;

Process them into food and send to the 3rd world.  Win, win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 67 Uncle Patso said,  &#8220;What else to do with them? Let them run free?&#8221;</p>
<p>Process them into food and send to the 3rd world.  Win, win.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropic Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misanthropic Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58 - bobbo,

&lt;i&gt;For my information–exactly who/what is it that CCF fronts for? I take it they front for consumers having the choice of eating meat if they want to? That actually doesn’t make any sense to me as that “right” is under no serious attack (no offense). So–just as you mostly mischaracterize profit motive as greed, what is it you are actually mischaracterizing here?&lt;/i&gt;

CCF fronts for tobacco primarily. They want you to have to sit in smokey restaurants. They also want you to eat fish with mercury. They also want you to drink with dinner and then drive home. See my post #39 above. They were originally spun off from Philip Morris.

They now attack the AMA, anyone opposed to smoking in public buildings, MADD, PETA and other environmental and humane organizations, and a great many others. 

Oh, and they want you to take responsibility for your own obesity even though they want to make it impossible to find out what&#039;s in your food. Funny, they don&#039;t want to take responsibility for literally killing people with mercury, tobacco smoke, and a massive increase in drunk driving. But then, they are only about personal responsibility, people&#039;s behavior under a corporate umbrella should be protected. 

To call Berman and his crew scum would be an insult to perfectly decent pond scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58 &#8211; bobbo,</p>
<p><i>For my information–exactly who/what is it that CCF fronts for? I take it they front for consumers having the choice of eating meat if they want to? That actually doesn’t make any sense to me as that “right” is under no serious attack (no offense). So–just as you mostly mischaracterize profit motive as greed, what is it you are actually mischaracterizing here?</i></p>
<p>CCF fronts for tobacco primarily. They want you to have to sit in smokey restaurants. They also want you to eat fish with mercury. They also want you to drink with dinner and then drive home. See my post #39 above. They were originally spun off from Philip Morris.</p>
<p>They now attack the AMA, anyone opposed to smoking in public buildings, MADD, PETA and other environmental and humane organizations, and a great many others. </p>
<p>Oh, and they want you to take responsibility for your own obesity even though they want to make it impossible to find out what&#8217;s in your food. Funny, they don&#8217;t want to take responsibility for literally killing people with mercury, tobacco smoke, and a massive increase in drunk driving. But then, they are only about personal responsibility, people&#8217;s behavior under a corporate umbrella should be protected. </p>
<p>To call Berman and his crew scum would be an insult to perfectly decent pond scum.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/31/peta-killed-95-percent-of-adoptable-pets-in-its-care-during-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-1507122</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face it: there are millions more where those came from. Too many people are unwilling to control their pets&#039; reproduction, so there are tens of millions of unwanted cats, dogs, etc. born every year. What else to do with them? Let them run free?

Meanwhile, in other news, # 13 horacesmiley said, at the end of a _long_ post about his fraudulent trolling and flamebaiting at peta.org:

&quot;Whatever the validity of their position on animal suffering, there can be no doubting that the organization is basically full of semi-hysterical nutcases and lunatic females.&quot;

I certainly hope you can detect the irony in the fact that your own behavior is partly responsible for that atmosphere. Which are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it: there are millions more where those came from. Too many people are unwilling to control their pets&#8217; reproduction, so there are tens of millions of unwanted cats, dogs, etc. born every year. What else to do with them? Let them run free?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, in other news, # 13 horacesmiley said, at the end of a _long_ post about his fraudulent trolling and flamebaiting at peta.org:</p>
<p>&#8220;Whatever the validity of their position on animal suffering, there can be no doubting that the organization is basically full of semi-hysterical nutcases and lunatic females.&#8221;</p>
<p>I certainly hope you can detect the irony in the fact that your own behavior is partly responsible for that atmosphere. Which are you?</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA is a terrorist organization.....it puts thoughts into the heads of empty headed people.
 Its full of mommy-clock-ticking women who have watched too many cartoons as kids and think that animals are people, and potential stand-in children.  The second these women HAVE children, their stand-in pets are tossed aside (hey, read Craigslist Pets...every few posts &quot;must get rid of pet, have baby now&quot;). 
  Then, there are the men, who just see a gaggle of single women...and they&#039;ll agree with (and pretend to support)anything, if it will get them laid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA is a terrorist organization&#8230;..it puts thoughts into the heads of empty headed people.<br />
 Its full of mommy-clock-ticking women who have watched too many cartoons as kids and think that animals are people, and potential stand-in children.  The second these women HAVE children, their stand-in pets are tossed aside (hey, read Craigslist Pets&#8230;every few posts &#8220;must get rid of pet, have baby now&#8221;).<br />
  Then, there are the men, who just see a gaggle of single women&#8230;and they&#8217;ll agree with (and pretend to support)anything, if it will get them laid.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a matter of Life and Death.

It&#039;s a matter of Fur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of Life and Death.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of Fur.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63--Pedro==I am anti-theist.  I don&#039;t hate god because he doesn&#039;t exist.  If he did exist, then yes, I would hate him.

My post is very critical of god.  Did you read it too fast or only with your left eye?

I&#039;ve reread and thought about your posts, nope, don&#039;t see the pun.  Could it be the opposite side of the coin that has you not seeing my anti-theism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63&#8211;Pedro==I am anti-theist.  I don&#8217;t hate god because he doesn&#8217;t exist.  If he did exist, then yes, I would hate him.</p>
<p>My post is very critical of god.  Did you read it too fast or only with your left eye?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve reread and thought about your posts, nope, don&#8217;t see the pun.  Could it be the opposite side of the coin that has you not seeing my anti-theism?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 I thought you disliked god. Who can understand you.

But if you say that PETA would be able to save more puppies and kiddies if they prayed more, then I&#039;ll have to take your word (see the pun?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 I thought you disliked god. Who can understand you.</p>
<p>But if you say that PETA would be able to save more puppies and kiddies if they prayed more, then I&#8217;ll have to take your word (see the pun?)</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61--Paddy Oh, Sick and Twisted===PETA is over invested in animal rights.  No reason to go off the deep end yourself, they don&#039;t want your company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#61&#8211;Paddy Oh, Sick and Twisted===PETA is over invested in animal rights.  No reason to go off the deep end yourself, they don&#8217;t want your company.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 59 pedro said,  &quot;How many dogs could have been saved with the money spent on a PETA’s ad campaign?&quot;

It&#039;s not about animals, PETA is about gaining the ability to control peoples behavior.  The animal thing is simply a convenient vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 59 pedro said,  &#8220;How many dogs could have been saved with the money spent on a PETA’s ad campaign?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about animals, PETA is about gaining the ability to control peoples behavior.  The animal thing is simply a convenient vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59--Pedro==you ask an interesting existential question:  Does God have a budget? If not, why does he not spend more on time and attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59&#8211;Pedro==you ask an interesting existential question:  Does God have a budget? If not, why does he not spend more on time and attention?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is bad to eat chicken, but a group of people bent over saving pets only to later come up with a lame excuse when is found that they kill animals, that&#039;s ok, right? How many dogs could have been saved with the money spent on a PETA&#039;s ad campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is bad to eat chicken, but a group of people bent over saving pets only to later come up with a lame excuse when is found that they kill animals, that&#8217;s ok, right? How many dogs could have been saved with the money spent on a PETA&#8217;s ad campaign?</p>
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