Yes it was a breach of protocol but the Queen is simply way too polite and level headed to make a fuss. I happen to love the Queen and I’m not even one of her subjects….LOL!!
Stevens was one of my Senators, I have even met him a few times. Man could he bring home the pork. I’ve never liked him for political reasons but not because he was a crook, well no more than most pro Neo Con in bed with Corporate Lobbyist Republican Senators are(yes lots of Dems in bed with Corporate Lobbyist too). I monitored the trial closely and came to the conclusion that he was guilty but by ignorance and neglect not willful disregard of the law. The phone surveillance alone made this obvious and pointed out that he knew he was in deep doodoo but still going to try to dodge/cover up his error instead of owning up to it. Still neglect /ignorance of the law is no excuse and more proof that his had expired. The prosecutors of this case so messed it up you would think they were working for Alberto Gonzales. Series of Tubes Ted gets off. That’s fine putting an 85 year old man who has devoted his life to this country to the best of his ability(even if I think he was wrong on almost every vote) should not end it in jail. The prosecutors need to be strongly reprimanded they have given our tarnished legal system another blow. Ted you dodged a bullet enjoy that fancy cabin in your retirement hope it has broadband and remember you were still guilty and that god you believe knows it even if the prosecutors over played this big fish and let it shake off the hook.
OT i’ll repost this rant should we ever get a Stevens gets off headline here
Watch the video again. The *Queen* committed the so-called breach of protocol. She hugged the first lady who reciprocated. Both the video and the commentator make this clear.
Stop looking for something to kvetch about. The combination of the Richard Rogers book (from the Queen’s favorite musical period) and an iPod full of content that goes back over 50 years and is personal to both the giver and receiver, given to a person who is actually something of a gadget fancier, having her fondness for her iPod in the past and being known for being one of the more high tech (for instance email using) members of the royal family is a warm and appropriate gesture.
That the queen responded by embracing the first lady demonstrates that they were well received.
Um, Phil, you really didn’t express ANY facts in your post… you’d think that little issue would have been caught by your rigorous self-fact-checking but whaddayagonnado?
#13 The queen reciprocated to chavez’ kiss and hug. That only means she’s better with protocol & manners. Just like a good actor staying in character after someone else’s gaffe.
I was upset when the Obama’s entered the room face first instead of walking backwards AND it was hard to tell from the angles and what not but it appears the Obamas look the Queen directly in the eyes.
In olden days, protocol would have been off with their heads for such affrontery.
Mike Baranicle had the best line: “From her bedroom window, the Queen can see whats left of her Empire.” Thats a good one!!
Still, to be fair and accurate: The Queen set protocol by her own touching. Its only idolizing douche bags, not the Queen, that is making any issue out of what in fact is just the opposite. Royalty SETS protocol, she doesn’t follow it.
Just DO NOT BOW TOO ANY king, we’re the United States of America and we’re on as equal a footing with ANYBODY, not sub-servant in the slightest. Did the Suadi Arabian King Kiss our President’s ass for all the oil we buy from his family? No? Then F him!
And, will somebody keep reminding Oblahblah that he’s the President now? Its a position on a MUCH higher standard than his previous community organizer life.
# 26 Phil Ken Sebben said, “Ted was guilty the and got off on legal technicalities”
Bzzzt. Wrong. The US AG is asking for the case to be dismissed. Not because of technicalities, but because of gross misconduct by the prosecutor that lead a jury to find unfairly him guilty. He doesn’t want to retry the case as he knows that the evidence won’t support a conviction. LOL
Doesn’t he have a protocol officer? Or is he deliberately annoying the Brits? Not talking about a special relationship, handing out gifts of DVDs and an pod with his speeches, referring to England and not Britain or UK, etc.
Well, perhaps a small breach of protocol, but imagine LBJ meeting the queen?
He might have tried to pick her up by her ears!
Yes it was a breach of protocol but the Queen is simply way too polite and level headed to make a fuss. I happen to love the Queen and I’m not even one of her subjects….LOL!!
OT “Senator Stevens” posters
Phil Ken Sebben
Stevens was one of my Senators, I have even met him a few times. Man could he bring home the pork. I’ve never liked him for political reasons but not because he was a crook, well no more than most pro Neo Con in bed with Corporate Lobbyist Republican Senators are(yes lots of Dems in bed with Corporate Lobbyist too). I monitored the trial closely and came to the conclusion that he was guilty but by ignorance and neglect not willful disregard of the law. The phone surveillance alone made this obvious and pointed out that he knew he was in deep doodoo but still going to try to dodge/cover up his error instead of owning up to it. Still neglect /ignorance of the law is no excuse and more proof that his had expired. The prosecutors of this case so messed it up you would think they were working for Alberto Gonzales. Series of Tubes Ted gets off. That’s fine putting an 85 year old man who has devoted his life to this country to the best of his ability(even if I think he was wrong on almost every vote) should not end it in jail. The prosecutors need to be strongly reprimanded they have given our tarnished legal system another blow. Ted you dodged a bullet enjoy that fancy cabin in your retirement hope it has broadband and remember you were still guilty and that god you believe knows it even if the prosecutors over played this big fish and let it shake off the hook.
OT i’ll repost this rant should we ever get a Stevens gets off headline here
Breach of protocol? Bollocks!
Watch the video again. The *Queen* committed the so-called breach of protocol. She hugged the first lady who reciprocated. Both the video and the commentator make this clear.
Stop looking for something to kvetch about. The combination of the Richard Rogers book (from the Queen’s favorite musical period) and an iPod full of content that goes back over 50 years and is personal to both the giver and receiver, given to a person who is actually something of a gadget fancier, having her fondness for her iPod in the past and being known for being one of the more high tech (for instance email using) members of the royal family is a warm and appropriate gesture.
That the queen responded by embracing the first lady demonstrates that they were well received.
# 23 Phil Ken Sebben said, “OT i’ll repost this rant should we ever get a Stevens gets off headline here”
Of course you will as you are a partisan lib.
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Paddy can you other than typos can you find any thing I’ve said that was not correct I check my facts before I post you should try it.
Ted was guilty the and got off on legal technicalities
Thought you guys hated that sort of thing
Um, Phil, you really didn’t express ANY facts in your post… you’d think that little issue would have been caught by your rigorous self-fact-checking but whaddayagonnado?
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fact.
The public release of the recorded phone conversations show that Ted knew he had done wrong and was going to try to cover up.
“The Queen is an almost sacred person…”
With all due respect, the Queen is in no way a sacred person. Maybe an important person(maybe), but not sacred.
Thank God, my ancestors realized that monarchs aren’t ordained by God and cut their ties with these crazy people 232 years ago.
Obama bowed to Islam…Saudi Arabian King…demonstrating his subservience…why aren’t American Newspapers complaining about that?
I remember photos of the Bushes kissing the king of KSA.
Norman Speight: “Now this, in respect of the Queen, is regarded as bad manners, you just don’t do it here.”
You might note that the Queen is hugging Michele right back. She may the Queen, but she’s human too!
#13 The queen reciprocated to chavez’ kiss and hug. That only means she’s better with protocol & manners. Just like a good actor staying in character after someone else’s gaffe.
#20 Yes, be happy with president Frank Drebin.
Anything to divert attention from the miserable financial markets.
I was upset when the Obama’s entered the room face first instead of walking backwards AND it was hard to tell from the angles and what not but it appears the Obamas look the Queen directly in the eyes.
In olden days, protocol would have been off with their heads for such affrontery.
Mike Baranicle had the best line: “From her bedroom window, the Queen can see whats left of her Empire.” Thats a good one!!
Still, to be fair and accurate: The Queen set protocol by her own touching. Its only idolizing douche bags, not the Queen, that is making any issue out of what in fact is just the opposite. Royalty SETS protocol, she doesn’t follow it.
The simple rule is:
You do not presume to touch her in any manner unless she initiates it.
It looks clearly from the video that she initiated it so it’s perfectly fine for Michelle to have her arm across her shoulder.
No protocol broken, storm in a tea cup.
Human silliness.
Well meant signs of affection or attempts at respect shouldn’t be distorted.
It’s not like he threw up on the Japanese Prime Minister and who knows if Putin really liked Bush calling him “Pooty Poot”.
To hell with protocols as long as the attempt is sincere.
Just DO NOT BOW TOO ANY king, we’re the United States of America and we’re on as equal a footing with ANYBODY, not sub-servant in the slightest. Did the Suadi Arabian King Kiss our President’s ass for all the oil we buy from his family? No? Then F him!
And, will somebody keep reminding Oblahblah that he’s the President now? Its a position on a MUCH higher standard than his previous community organizer life.
Now Holden, there you go feeling put-upon again
# 26 Phil Ken Sebben said, “Ted was guilty the and got off on legal technicalities”
Bzzzt. Wrong. The US AG is asking for the case to be dismissed. Not because of technicalities, but because of gross misconduct by the prosecutor that lead a jury to find unfairly him guilty. He doesn’t want to retry the case as he knows that the evidence won’t support a conviction. LOL
Doesn’t he have a protocol officer? Or is he deliberately annoying the Brits? Not talking about a special relationship, handing out gifts of DVDs and an pod with his speeches, referring to England and not Britain or UK, etc.