How many of the activities listed are ordinary things that ordinary people do? Or used to do before they became too afraid to do them anymore because of things like this. When the population is too afraid or is spying on its neighbors or government becomes oppressive in the name of protecting the people, the terrorists have achieved their goal.
But don’t you feel safer?
some other points:
why does no one pose the question of “the exit strategy” for the “war on terror”?
as far i can see, this war will never end as it is against a stateless enemy and it is far too profitable, both in political/governmental power and monetarily via arms sales and military build ups. -not to mention the orgasmic abuse of war powers The Fed and US Treasury seems to be addicted to.
-plus, it seems as soon as one fairytale terrorist organization loses it’s appeal, they start focusing a “new” emerging threat.
-and then there is always domestic terror waiting on tap to continue the fear mongering and abuse of power.
iirc, the six or seven supposed terror attacks that were supposedly thwarted on US soil during bush’s term later turned out to completely false, or fabricated evidence based on payed informants. -you may have heard of related arrests, but never any convictions.
anyway..think about it..i cannot recall *ever* hearing of any exit strategy concerning this war.
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and to beat the proverbial dead horse some more..
8 years later, the FBI’s favorite Most Wanted boogy-man, Usama Bin Laden, still does not list Bin Laden as connected to the 9/11 incident, (nor any refernce to Al Qaeda for that matter) -which one can only infer that they do not have proof beyond reasonable doubt that he had anything to do with it. -otherwise they would have to provide such proof and update his FBI’s Most Wanted bulletin stating such.
http://fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
-yet the second most wanted terrorist on FBI’s most wanted (Adam Yahiye Gadahn) does have links or support to Al Qaeda listed.
-adding more insult to injury, a recent peer reviewed chemical analysis (march 2009) of the dust at the WTC collapse has revealed a considerable amount of what appears to be highly specialized, un-ignited thermite in the dust.
found here
-further, we have congressional testimony that the intelligence used to justify the Iraq War was false, which in turn, casts an even longer shadow back to the validity of original events that started us down this path.
in the end, we are left with more questions than answers as to the validity of the war on terror.
to those who fear independent thought and only know how to scream “wingnut”, i only ask that given the unprecedented speed in which we are giving up our liberties in the name of a stateless enemy who’s face is not only unknown, but changes almost on a weekly basis,
-would you rather have half truths or undeniable proof, if you were in a court of law where your liberties and those of your offspring were at stake?
how many more liberties are we to give up before we are declared “safe” from this faceless enemy?
how many more lives are to be wasted in it’s endless pursuit?
can you even logically win a war on terror given the emotional nature of humans?
finally, maybe we need only ask “Cui Bono”
-as this simple question more often than not, points us to the rocks that need to be overturned to find the answers we seek.
-s
How often do terrorist acts happen in the US?
Maybe once every hundred years or so?
This bullshit make me want to puke.
The most recent stupid terrorist media driven hysteria is those priates that just got killed. They it seems were more than just pirates–they too were terrorists. I guess when I have to get the plumbers helper out to unclog my toilet, that shows terrorists activities as well. Those terrorists are “EVERYWHERE!!”
BS Media. They are more a political tool than a safeguard. We need a new approach to “news and information.”
#21 soundwash
You had some good points, especially on the loss of rights.
Then you go and post a link to an article that shows the dust from the WTC attack contains thermite. Really? So does my laptop and car and my house. Does that mean that the government can make my house and car and laptop explode at anytime?
Just because dust contains materials that can be used to make thermite doesn’t make it thermite. It sounds more like a “Truther” article to me.
This list actually sounds more like how to pick up women than terrorist activities.
Terrorist: Hey buddy, I’m, uh, “seeking information” about those two giant towers over there. What’s the deal with those towers? People work there?
Citizen: Yes.
Terrorist: Really, now? [takes some notes] Lots of people, or just a few?
Citizen: Lots
Terrorist: And they’re Americans who work there, right? What country am I in again?
Citizen: Yes, Americans, mostly.
Terrorist: How strong are those buildings, would you say? Could they withstand the impact, say, of a giant metallic whale?
Citizen: Possibly.
Terrorist: And you say that these American people work there *in* the building, is that right?
Citizen: Yes, in the building.
Terrorist: Not beneath?
Citizen: No, inside.
Terrorist: [takes notes] Thank you, my friend. This has been a *very* interesting conversation. Very interesting indeed… [skulks away, rubbing hands together]
Gotta love the scary music… sort of sounds like “Tubular Bells” from “The Omen”.
Be afraid! Report all of the oddballs!
Terrorists are the new USSR Communists. Remember How the Hollywood movies used to portray the deadly communist bear waiting to invade America and rain ballistic missiles to all US cities. Everyone knows how much true was that.
Now the commies have been replaced by terrorists. The West and the Hollywood movies cant stop scaring the crap out of everyone regarding terrorists.
Have you ever met the people which the west call the terrorists? Most have a hard time feeding their families than to think about fighting a war with the west.
Everyone knows who is behind 911, only fools think that a guy hiding in a cave ordering such a big act..
regarding terrorists winning,
Overblown balloon, thats I always say…
# 16 chuck said, on April 12th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I think the US Federal Government does at least 5 of the 7 signs. Does that make it a terrorist organization?
No it doesn’t, but we’re watching you now!
#28
Before the USSR there were Nazis.
Before them Anarchists.
Before them Spaniards.
Before them Native Americans.
Before them Confederates.
Before them Brits.
Before them French.
This is Machiavelli: 101.
This is how those in power stay in power.
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So are the producers of this video terrorists then since they almost certainly did all of those seven steps except perhaps “testing security” to make this video?
i wonder why they dont call “truthers” “liers” instead..i mean..wtf they are more (than less) considered to be spreading lies than truth, no? *shrug*
#24: Mr Diesel, yes, i argued with myself about adding that in. however, it is the first time i’ve seen independent research that was more than the usual collecting of somewhat anecdotal news and video evidence to present a case for foul play.
since I found the publication linked on the link page to one of the NoAgenda podcasts a week or so ago, i figured it’d warrant a look.
the publication is thorough, detailed, very well referenced, uses actual scientific process (not armchair/internet science) and brought to bear the tools from two Universities on the samples.
it is *the only* independent publication
i have come across that in my opinion, could stand up as evidence in court of law.
on the surface, if i were opposing council in a court of law, the only major play i can see to
discredit it, would be the chain of custody of the samples themselves. -this can easily be verified, however.
for these reasons, i felt listing it did not detract from the overall case i made above and
“worth the risk” of being labeled a truther, crackpot or whatever you wish.
i spent almost a month (9/14-10/4) at ground zero, volunteering at Javits and St. Paul’s church, feeding the recovery workers. i also
put up an Australian EMT rescue tech for two weeks who flew himself in from Australia to search for survivors on the pile.
for several weeks i listened first hand
to many accounts from professional recovery
workers, local and foreign, who had worked recovery on building fires and collapses many times prior, who were seriously questioning the mechanics behind the collapse events well in advance of any conspiracies or official statements.
-i myself shouted “aww give me a break, that
was demolished” at the TV when the second
tower fell and later was downright pissed
off when i saw #7 drop.
i may be “too close” to these events, but nonetheless, you cannot ignore the grave
threat to our founding principals, liberties,
our very way of life, not to mention the lives
of most all the rest of the world, democratic or otherwise, that this event is being used usurp.
look, if we are going to give our elected officals the authority to look under every rock, every nook and cranny across the globe in order to hunt down fellow humans who fit an extremely vague and ever changing profile of “terrorist threat” -we better be dam sure about the events
we have used to justify this unprecedented behaviour.
a final note:
to add to the absurdity that this event
produces almost daily, just released today,
(and *if* this is a valid DHS document)
DHS doc Titled:
“Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment”
read about it here:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803
(there is a PDF link in the article)
-amongst other things, DHS
is now going to profile returning military veterans as possible terrorist candidates.
where does it end?
i sincerely hope this is false.
-s
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms!
#32 soundwash
I sure hope that website isn’t real.
Typical cold war crap for those to young to know.
Most of this means jack: a tourist or somebody new to the location is going to do this.
Some of it like getting military/police ids and equipment would most likely be criminals and should be reported besides breaking a dozen laws on the face of it.
Most schools are just about equiped to deal with some kid showing up with a nail file. Well one parent did wear a sheath knife in but when he was told he could be arrested for that he put it in his car. Was he a threat? No, He was a red neck concerned parent who showed up for parent teacher conference wearing what he normally wore.
Aside from the actual content, I’m always suspicious of videos that need an emotionally manipulative soundtrack.
Oh and delivered by the homely “mom” figure wearing the passionate/exciting red clothing.
How about making a video for the seven signs of manipulative scaremongering?
how sick are you people???
this is worse than George Orwells “1984″ and old east germany togther!!! this is how HITLER was getting BIG.
LAND OF THE FREE…..my ass