#20 Paddy-O said, Thou Shall Not Murder… Murder: the crime of killing another person deliberately and not in self-defense or with any other extenuating circumstance recognized by law. Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Pakistan and maybe Iran next. Your far right news and your far right wars are destroying the world and are based on lies and racism!
I watch BBC News whenever or local news when I can. I can’t stand Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. Look at how those stations reported news in the early 90′s. Now look at them and it is all opinionated news, and most of the stories are just so the station can express their points of view instead of just reporting the new unaltered. I think that the stations think we as Americans need to have drama and entertainment in our news instead of just plain news stories.
BBC is neo-liberal, a philosophy that barely has light between it and the neo-conservatism of Fox, when you boil it down to basics. Of course, there is the appearance of conflict between the philosophies, but they have essentially the same foreign (interventionist) and domestic (quasi-fascist police state) policies, so I would argue that this is all just for show. The fact that Rupert Murdoch runs a neo-lib network in Britain and a neo-con network in the US should be evidence enough that there is no functional difference between the too.
A few people here mentioned Amy Goodman and Ron Paul. Ever wonder why those two (and their counterparts) almost never get a fair shake or even air time at critical moments? Because the western media is essentially controlled by this axis of false-dichotomy, and they don’t want to have their quasi-liberalism or quasi-conservatism revealed as a fascist front and sham by exposing people to actual liberals and conservatives.
Most of you have bought the lie, but I’ll support both Amy -and- Ron for as long as I have the freedom to do so.
Hey whatever your political leanings, even you far right leaning people have to admit that Glen Beck is bat sh*t crazy. Come on!!! Really?!?! You really think he cares so much that he’s gonna cry. Those tears seemed genuine?
Wow!
See I disagree with BillO, but man he is smart, and not crazy.
#30 what on earth made you think that the Murdoch media in the UK is neo liberal? They are consistently more right wing than our Conservative party. They regularly call for more government restrictions on foreigners, they hate the EU and want less money for the BBC.
In fact, much of it fits in very nicely with what Adam & John say. That doesn’t exactly make it any sort of liberal – unless you are looking at it from 5+ time zones west.
Glenn Beck being the new kid on the block at Fox has to find his own on-air persona. At present it’s kind of a mash-up of Bill O’Reilly and Tammy Fae Baker with a dash of Howard Beale for seasoning. If it really bothers you, don’t watch. I think he’s a proper balance to Oberman.
So sit back, place you bet as to who will ‘lose it’ on air first. These programs have elements of news commentary and entertainment It’s all about the ratings after all. Something the BBC may not grasp the finer points of.
#36 I might be wrong. I had merely gotten the impression that the Blair was a favorite of Sky, and got a lot of ra-rah promotion from them. And who else is the epitome of neo-liberalism than Tony Blair, the flexi-religious, Fabian, golden boy of the rise of the nanny state? Was that man ever anything even like the liberal ideal that Labor once represented?
“They are consistently more right wing than our Conservative party. They regularly call for more government restrictions on foreigners, they hate the EU and want less money for the BBC.”
Let me posit that this neo-political movement more or less represents American and British banking and corporate interests, and thus the EU would be seen as a threat to the Old London money and power. Now, I’m sure sky would be just spiffy keen about the EU if the currency was the pound and the capitol was in Manchester, but Brussels? And currencies issued by just anyone? Much harder to game, old boy. Can’t have that. It also explains the restrictions on foreigners (a common theme in the American branches) which should be constantly reminded that they are mere subjects of the empire, not citizens.
And the BBC? Who wouldn’t want less money for a lavishly funded competitor? Really.
But empire is what this all boils down to, I think. These people have this religious belief in growth and expansion, placed at a high preference over the actual prosperity of the people, that in the end in a limited world can only rely upon oppressing other people and taking their stuff. Except now we’re not facing tribesmen with spears, but insurgents with automatic weapons and EFP’s. 19th century thinking should have stayed there, but that we are still led by it well into the 21st century is a crying shame.
Very true, American news media more about taking sides then reporting news. I gues it’s too boring unless the news people are giving their own opinions. I thought that was for the one segment called “point of view” now the whole news is that!
#20 Paddy-O said, Thou Shall Not Murder… Murder: the crime of killing another person deliberately and not in self-defense or with any other extenuating circumstance recognized by law. Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Pakistan and maybe Iran next. Your far right news and your far right wars are destroying the world and are based on lies and racism!
#20
Can we hold paddy while you hit him?
He does not speak for the majority of us. His kind lost the last two election cycles hopefuly we are moving in a better derection now.
#21 ROFL!
I can see that you are new here.
# 16 LibertyLover said, on April 13th, 2009 at 8:12 am
I deleted FOX News from my TIVO lineup and from my web browser bookmarks after they snubbed Ron Paul during the last election cycle.
I haven’t watched them since.
Personally, I couldn’t give a flying sh*t about them.
That was a bad call…but I recall FOX airing the complaints of who disagreed with their decision…
So you get your new only on the internet now?
I’m too lazy for that…too much reading.
Fox is too whiney, angry, preachy, and self centered. In other words, it’s too Liberal.
Oh Goody, more anti-brit crap from Dvorak.org
Fancy putting this clip in context?
Fancy looking at who and what Charlie is and what his show does?
He’s deliberately over-opinionated, very vocal and foul mouthed, exaggerating even the slightest gripe for comedic purposes.
Oh no.. it’s British, heck let’s just be egotistical and claim it’s an attack on us.
Whatever happened to journalism, to checking and understanding sources?
I watch BBC News whenever or local news when I can. I can’t stand Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. Look at how those stations reported news in the early 90′s. Now look at them and it is all opinionated news, and most of the stories are just so the station can express their points of view instead of just reporting the new unaltered. I think that the stations think we as Americans need to have drama and entertainment in our news instead of just plain news stories.
“head-up-his-own-ass view of American conservative media”
Yes because that Keith Olberman guy in the clip is so conservative…
“have the most LEFT WING news “Organisation” one could imagine. BBC?”
You have obviously never listened to Democracy Now. http://democracynow.org/ Amy Goodman makes the BBC look like Fox News.
Paid for by a yearly tax on everyone who owns a TV.
BBC is neo-liberal, a philosophy that barely has light between it and the neo-conservatism of Fox, when you boil it down to basics. Of course, there is the appearance of conflict between the philosophies, but they have essentially the same foreign (interventionist) and domestic (quasi-fascist police state) policies, so I would argue that this is all just for show. The fact that Rupert Murdoch runs a neo-lib network in Britain and a neo-con network in the US should be evidence enough that there is no functional difference between the too.
A few people here mentioned Amy Goodman and Ron Paul. Ever wonder why those two (and their counterparts) almost never get a fair shake or even air time at critical moments? Because the western media is essentially controlled by this axis of false-dichotomy, and they don’t want to have their quasi-liberalism or quasi-conservatism revealed as a fascist front and sham by exposing people to actual liberals and conservatives.
Most of you have bought the lie, but I’ll support both Amy -and- Ron for as long as I have the freedom to do so.
#30, Good post.
“Most of their TV after 10pm is stupid lawn bowling, ensures you’ll go to sleep after watching it for about 5 minutes.”
#7 – Clearly you have NO idea what you are talking about.
News for you:
It is hardly only them that has that view about America news.
Hey whatever your political leanings, even you far right leaning people have to admit that Glen Beck is bat sh*t crazy. Come on!!! Really?!?! You really think he cares so much that he’s gonna cry. Those tears seemed genuine?
Wow!
See I disagree with BillO, but man he is smart, and not crazy.
If this video means anything, it’s that Glen Beck has come of age. You know you’ve made it when people talk like Booker did about you.
I thought the video was entertaining, which is exactly what it was supposed to be.
Not terribly informative. Taking quotes out of context does not inform, but misinforms.
After all, the guy works for the Guardian. It’s like asking MSNBC to do an expose’ on FOX NEWS. You know what you’re gonna get.
But it was still funny, so I say..
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
#30 what on earth made you think that the Murdoch media in the UK is neo liberal? They are consistently more right wing than our Conservative party. They regularly call for more government restrictions on foreigners, they hate the EU and want less money for the BBC.
In fact, much of it fits in very nicely with what Adam & John say. That doesn’t exactly make it any sort of liberal – unless you are looking at it from 5+ time zones west.
Glenn Beck being the new kid on the block at Fox has to find his own on-air persona. At present it’s kind of a mash-up of Bill O’Reilly and Tammy Fae Baker with a dash of Howard Beale for seasoning. If it really bothers you, don’t watch. I think he’s a proper balance to Oberman.
So sit back, place you bet as to who will ‘lose it’ on air first. These programs have elements of news commentary and entertainment It’s all about the ratings after all. Something the BBC may not grasp the finer points of.
Relax. Bitter, twisted Brits are the least of your critics. Laugh at them, they’re circus fart clowns who want to be taken seriously.
#36 I might be wrong. I had merely gotten the impression that the Blair was a favorite of Sky, and got a lot of ra-rah promotion from them. And who else is the epitome of neo-liberalism than Tony Blair, the flexi-religious, Fabian, golden boy of the rise of the nanny state? Was that man ever anything even like the liberal ideal that Labor once represented?
“They are consistently more right wing than our Conservative party. They regularly call for more government restrictions on foreigners, they hate the EU and want less money for the BBC.”
Let me posit that this neo-political movement more or less represents American and British banking and corporate interests, and thus the EU would be seen as a threat to the Old London money and power. Now, I’m sure sky would be just spiffy keen about the EU if the currency was the pound and the capitol was in Manchester, but Brussels? And currencies issued by just anyone? Much harder to game, old boy. Can’t have that. It also explains the restrictions on foreigners (a common theme in the American branches) which should be constantly reminded that they are mere subjects of the empire, not citizens.
And the BBC? Who wouldn’t want less money for a lavishly funded competitor? Really.
But empire is what this all boils down to, I think. These people have this religious belief in growth and expansion, placed at a high preference over the actual prosperity of the people, that in the end in a limited world can only rely upon oppressing other people and taking their stuff. Except now we’re not facing tribesmen with spears, but insurgents with automatic weapons and EFP’s. 19th century thinking should have stayed there, but that we are still led by it well into the 21st century is a crying shame.
Very true, American news media more about taking sides then reporting news. I gues it’s too boring unless the news people are giving their own opinions. I thought that was for the one segment called “point of view” now the whole news is that!