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	<title>Comments on: Proxy Servers, etc. Won&#8217;t Protect You From The FBI&#8217;s Spyware</title>
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		<title>By: Central Scrutinizer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-3/#comment-1513788</link>
		<dc:creator>Central Scrutinizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been waiting for the FBI to press for legal authority to Big Brother anything with connectivity - not that anyone in &quot;law&quot; enforcement feels the need for such quaint notions anymore. But it seemed a bit curious they didn&#039;t play the &quot;drug war&quot;, &quot;kiddie porn&quot;, or &quot;terrorism&quot; cards any harder than they did if only to make it more convenient / less expensive to remotely observe the boring intimate details of my digital life. And this of course explains why - it&#039;s been terribly easy for a long time.  Anyone who thinks Procexp or any other tool will reveal everything lurking in Windows doesn&#039;t know Microsoft very well - remember who bought Sysinternals a little while back.  And frankly we can&#039;t call ourselves software wizards if we can&#039;t hide such code in something as ponderous, proprietary and opaque as Windows.  Just assume anything you do is being observed, by someone, who probably has something particular he&#039;s assigned to watch for, and try not to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for the FBI to press for legal authority to Big Brother anything with connectivity &#8211; not that anyone in &#8220;law&#8221; enforcement feels the need for such quaint notions anymore. But it seemed a bit curious they didn&#8217;t play the &#8220;drug war&#8221;, &#8220;kiddie porn&#8221;, or &#8220;terrorism&#8221; cards any harder than they did if only to make it more convenient / less expensive to remotely observe the boring intimate details of my digital life. And this of course explains why &#8211; it&#8217;s been terribly easy for a long time.  Anyone who thinks Procexp or any other tool will reveal everything lurking in Windows doesn&#8217;t know Microsoft very well &#8211; remember who bought Sysinternals a little while back.  And frankly we can&#8217;t call ourselves software wizards if we can&#8217;t hide such code in something as ponderous, proprietary and opaque as Windows.  Just assume anything you do is being observed, by someone, who probably has something particular he&#8217;s assigned to watch for, and try not to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-3/#comment-1513762</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should get the suit of sysinternals..  Pretty cool, if you KNOW WHAT you are looking at..
I like the one that takes 20 minutes to START windows to check ALL programs that start at startup..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should get the suit of sysinternals..  Pretty cool, if you KNOW WHAT you are looking at..<br />
I like the one that takes 20 minutes to START windows to check ALL programs that start at startup..</p>
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		<title>By: bac</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-3/#comment-1513733</link>
		<dc:creator>bac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a nice utility from Sysinternals called Process Explorer.  It is a Windows app.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a nice utility from Sysinternals called Process Explorer.  It is a Windows app.<br />
<a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-3/#comment-1513688</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats troubling is that the FBI spyware could be rewritten by a foreign agent and used for nefarious purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats troubling is that the FBI spyware could be rewritten by a foreign agent and used for nefarious purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-3/#comment-1513665</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Task manger, watcher..
Check out the utilities in Spybot advanced TOOLS..
They can even tell whcih programs are linked and GIVE you info in WHO wrote it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Task manger, watcher..<br />
Check out the utilities in Spybot advanced TOOLS..<br />
They can even tell whcih programs are linked and GIVE you info in WHO wrote it..</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513637</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, does this spyware run on Linux? And why does your comment box suck so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, does this spyware run on Linux? And why does your comment box suck so much?</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513524</link>
		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I learn security from European LAN parties where thousands get together with their PC&#039;s. I take a machine I can monitor and actually hope to get infected while I&#039;m downloading hundreds of gigas of piracy playing online games and showing off my robots.  Careful I am where careful I need be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I learn security from European LAN parties where thousands get together with their PC&#8217;s. I take a machine I can monitor and actually hope to get infected while I&#8217;m downloading hundreds of gigas of piracy playing online games and showing off my robots.  Careful I am where careful I need be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513518</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;amodedoma&lt;/cite&gt; says:
Yeah I suppose if your dumb enough to leave your MBR’s exposed rootkit 
could modify your kernel. 

Well, if you are using Wondoze there&#039;s nothing you can do about it short of a good anti-root kit program.  As I said, people get caught because they  THINK they know what they are doing. You be careful out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>amodedoma</cite> says:<br />
Yeah I suppose if your dumb enough to leave your MBR’s exposed rootkit<br />
could modify your kernel. </p>
<p>Well, if you are using Wondoze there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it short of a good anti-root kit program.  As I said, people get caught because they  THINK they know what they are doing. You be careful out there</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513517</link>
		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops that&#039;s IARSN... sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops that&#8217;s IARSN&#8230; sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513515</link>
		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite taskmanager is IASRN&#039;s TaskInfo.  It&#039;s ery complete and useful and not too big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite taskmanager is IASRN&#8217;s TaskInfo.  It&#8217;s ery complete and useful and not too big.</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513514</link>
		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I suppose if your dumb enough to leave your MBR&#039;s exposed rootkit could modify your kernel.  I guess the point is in this day of WOW computing, where any idiot can use a computer, there&#039;s plenty for the FBI to do.  But that&#039;s always been true.  There&#039;s no absolute security, if they want in they&#039;ll get in.  I&#039;m just saying that this crap is just that, crap.  No broad reaching consequences just more of the same.

Is anyone else having problems with the message editor? It&#039;s right justifiying everything the cursor appears to jump to the beginning of the line on punctuation .  I&#039;m finding it hard to use.  BTW I&#039;m using latest firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I suppose if your dumb enough to leave your MBR&#8217;s exposed rootkit could modify your kernel.  I guess the point is in this day of WOW computing, where any idiot can use a computer, there&#8217;s plenty for the FBI to do.  But that&#8217;s always been true.  There&#8217;s no absolute security, if they want in they&#8217;ll get in.  I&#8217;m just saying that this crap is just that, crap.  No broad reaching consequences just more of the same.</p>
<p>Is anyone else having problems with the message editor? It&#8217;s right justifiying everything the cursor appears to jump to the beginning of the line on punctuation .  I&#8217;m finding it hard to use.  BTW I&#8217;m using latest firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: dvdchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>dvdchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Ok, first, this right side typing garbage HAS TO GO.
Second, : &lt;/cite&gt;@&lt;cite&gt;amodedoma, suggestions for a decent taskmanager?
&lt;/cite&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Ok, first, this right side typing garbage HAS TO GO.<br />
Second, : </cite>@<cite>amodedoma, suggestions for a decent taskmanager?<br />
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		<title>By: Paddy-O</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513501</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;amodedoma&lt;/cite&gt; says:
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1513496&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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&quot;Personally I’ve always liked to watch what’s running on my PC, get a 
&quot;decent taskmanager and you can watch everything thats running

Unless it is a rootkit designed to not show up as a running process. That is how they get caught.  They THINK they know how to secure their system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>amodedoma</cite> says:<br />
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&#8220;Personally I’ve always liked to watch what’s running on my PC, get a<br />
&#8220;decent taskmanager and you can watch everything thats running</p>
<p>Unless it is a rootkit designed to not show up as a running process. That is how they get caught.  They THINK they know how to secure their system.</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/18/proxy-servers-etc-wont-protect-you-from-the-fbis-spyware/comment-page-2/#comment-1513496</link>
		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I&#039;ve always liked to watch what&#039;s running on my PC, get a decent taskmanager and you can watch everything thats running and get all kinds of interesting info about connections and memory use. I started doing this out of an obsession for performance issues, but what with all the trojans and such I&#039;ve also found it useful for cleaning up infected systems too.  Seems kinda stupid to me.  I mean if you&#039;re gonna do something illegal online and use proxies and ip spoofing it just doesn&#039;t gel that you&#039;d be so stupid as to let this crap install on your machine in the first place.  I guess they need to justify the millions they&#039;re spending by telling everybody how clever they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I&#8217;ve always liked to watch what&#8217;s running on my PC, get a decent taskmanager and you can watch everything thats running and get all kinds of interesting info about connections and memory use. I started doing this out of an obsession for performance issues, but what with all the trojans and such I&#8217;ve also found it useful for cleaning up infected systems too.  Seems kinda stupid to me.  I mean if you&#8217;re gonna do something illegal online and use proxies and ip spoofing it just doesn&#8217;t gel that you&#8217;d be so stupid as to let this crap install on your machine in the first place.  I guess they need to justify the millions they&#8217;re spending by telling everybody how clever they are.</p>
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		<title>By: kyus3</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyus3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact that child porn is freely available on p2p networks shows how out of touch law enforcement is, it would be so easy to stop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact that child porn is freely available on p2p networks shows how out of touch law enforcement is, it would be so easy to stop</p>
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