Comments on: Chinese Forced to Chain Smoke to Boost Economy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sea Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-2/#comment-1520145 Sea Lawyer Wed, 06 May 2009 04:49:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1520145 #21, yeah, it's actually kind of disgusting that politicians rely on the relatively low demand elasticity of drug addicts to grow tax revenues. #21, yeah, it’s actually kind of disgusting that politicians rely on the relatively low demand elasticity of drug addicts to grow tax revenues.

]]> By: nrdoder http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-2/#comment-1520081 nrdoder Wed, 06 May 2009 00:09:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1520081 Now there'd be a real reason to party if the Chinese government ordered everyone to drink more beer instead. Hey is pot illegal to smoke in China? Now there’d be a real reason to party if the Chinese government ordered everyone to drink more beer instead.

Hey is pot illegal to smoke in China?

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-2/#comment-1520055 ECA Tue, 05 May 2009 22:01:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1520055 19, CORRECT.. Tax on Cigs, should be bringing in $100,000+ per day, EASY. But as andrew Jackson said about TAX.. It costs over 1/2 the tax to collect the tax. there are to many HANDS along the way. 19,
CORRECT..
Tax on Cigs, should be bringing in $100,000+ per day, EASY.

But as andrew Jackson said about TAX..
It costs over 1/2 the tax to collect the tax.

there are to many HANDS along the way.

]]> By: KarmaBaby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519968 KarmaBaby Tue, 05 May 2009 18:35:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519968 China's new dual Economy Boosting, Population Control Initiative. China’s new dual Economy Boosting, Population Control Initiative.

]]> By: Sea Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519939 Sea Lawyer Tue, 05 May 2009 17:02:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519939 If taxes on tobacco were really meant to deter people from smoking, they wouldn't be used to fund completely unrelated programs like preschool. If taxes on tobacco were really meant to deter people from smoking, they wouldn’t be used to fund completely unrelated programs like preschool.

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519933 Angel H. Wong Tue, 05 May 2009 16:56:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519933 #12 Jager, Considering how much the Republicans are poo-pooing universal health care AND that hospitals would end up charging $200 for a regular 200mg Tylenol if implemented, that trillion dollar would have been blown up in smoke. #12 Jager,

Considering how much the Republicans are poo-pooing universal health care AND that hospitals would end up charging $200 for a regular 200mg Tylenol if implemented, that trillion dollar would have been blown up in smoke.

]]> By: killer duck http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519882 killer duck Tue, 05 May 2009 13:54:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519882 China has more smokers than the US has people?!? Wow, that is amazing. When you have that many people you need to encourage early death. As f'd up as this seems to us, I can actually see their logic. Generate immediate tax revenue now, shorten average life span in the long run. And given that China can't even make a plastic toy that is not cancer causing, I would bet their cigs are going to kill you twice as fast as US made ones. #6 makes a good point though...why not force people to buy birth control too. China has more smokers than the US has people?!? Wow, that is amazing. When you have that many people you need to encourage early death. As f’d up as this seems to us, I can actually see their logic. Generate immediate tax revenue now, shorten average life span in the long run. And given that China can’t even make a plastic toy that is not cancer causing, I would bet their cigs are going to kill you twice as fast as US made ones.

#6 makes a good point though…why not force people to buy birth control too.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519827 ECA Tue, 05 May 2009 10:35:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519827 and the cost of a NEW hip?? New knees?? HOW about kidneys and dialysis?? at $4000 per month?? for 5 years?? If you figure $3 per pack, 1-2 packs per day, for 20+ years.. its true.. But not everyone gets cancer. And the money from the tax?? can go to improvements in HEALTH..including cutting COSTS. costs of medical equipment, and Abusive HMO schedules.. FINDING solutions and GOING BACK 20 years TO BETTER PRODUCTS that didnt kill us just to EAT. and the cost of a NEW hip??
New knees??
HOW about kidneys and dialysis?? at $4000 per month?? for 5 years??

If you figure $3 per pack, 1-2 packs per day, for 20+ years.. its true..
But not everyone gets cancer.
And the money from the tax?? can go to improvements in HEALTH..including cutting COSTS.

costs of medical equipment, and Abusive HMO schedules..
FINDING solutions and GOING BACK 20 years TO BETTER PRODUCTS that didnt kill us just to EAT.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519814 Mr. Fusion Tue, 05 May 2009 08:54:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519814 ECA, I have to disagree with you good buddy. The effects of cancer are far and away much more expensive than all revenues obtained from tobacco. In this neck of the woods there are several people with artificial jaws because they chewed tobacco. Others with holes in their necks from the throat cancer. Those with tracheotomies because of mouth cancer. And cemeteries with those who's advanced cancers put them there before their time. I just recently learned of a woman I've known for many years who found out that cough was connected to a "spot" on her lung. It metastasized and is now in her liver. Her bill was over $30,000 before they decided it was terminal. ECA,

I have to disagree with you good buddy. The effects of cancer are far and away much more expensive than all revenues obtained from tobacco.

In this neck of the woods there are several people with artificial jaws because they chewed tobacco. Others with holes in their necks from the throat cancer. Those with tracheotomies because of mouth cancer. And cemeteries with those who’s advanced cancers put them there before their time.

I just recently learned of a woman I’ve known for many years who found out that cough was connected to a “spot” on her lung. It metastasized and is now in her liver. Her bill was over $30,000 before they decided it was terminal.

]]> By: Neme5ii5 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519813 Neme5ii5 Tue, 05 May 2009 08:52:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519813 John should be talking about Electronic Cigarettes on the NoAgenda show. Healthier smoke. Cleaner Nicotine. and OH THE FLAVORS. Here kiddy kiddies. John should be talking about Electronic Cigarettes on the NoAgenda show. Healthier smoke. Cleaner Nicotine. and OH THE FLAVORS. Here kiddy kiddies.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519779 ECA Tue, 05 May 2009 03:58:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519779 jag, Im not saying its good or bad.. Just the TAX on cigs in the USA is about 90% of the price at this time.. And if you want the biggest boost..Cut tax on cigs and Alcohol, and you could pay off the national debt in 4 years from increased sales.. jag,
Im not saying its good or bad..
Just the TAX on cigs in the USA is about 90% of the price at this time..
And if you want the biggest boost..Cut tax on cigs and Alcohol, and you could pay off the national debt in 4 years from increased sales..

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519736 Jägermeister Tue, 05 May 2009 01:15:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519736 #7 - Breetai #8 - ECA Yeah, you're right. Let's kill off the population before they retire. Let's lace the tobacco with melamine, so that we can speed up the process. And when we're at it... make smoking mandatory for religious people. #10 - Angel H. Wong Just imagine <a href="http://nationmaster.com/graph/hea_lif_exp_hea_yea-health-life-expectancy-healthy-years" rel="nofollow">what a difference</a> three trillion dollar could have made if it had been spent on improving things at home instead of "liberating" the Iraqis. #7 – Breetai
#8 – ECA

Yeah, you’re right. Let’s kill off the population before they retire. Let’s lace the tobacco with melamine, so that we can speed up the process. And when we’re at it… make smoking mandatory for religious people.

#10 – Angel H. Wong

Just imagine what a difference three trillion dollar could have made if it had been spent on improving things at home instead of “liberating” the Iraqis.

]]> By: Eric http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519730 Eric Tue, 05 May 2009 00:57:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519730 Here's the new ad campaign... <img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee50/kurtenblog/family-guy-smoke.jpg" alt="" /> Here’s the new ad campaign…

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519727 Angel H. Wong Tue, 05 May 2009 00:40:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519727 #5 Jager, "Who would pay for the cancer treatment?" The American health care system is build so that only those who (economically) worth it survive. #9 Improbus, Chinese don't like to waste a vice away B) #5 Jager,

“Who would pay for the cancer treatment?”

The American health care system is build so that only those who (economically) worth it survive.

#9 Improbus,

Chinese don’t like to waste a vice away B)

]]> By: Improbus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/04/chinese-forced-to-chain-smoke-to-boost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1519722 Improbus Tue, 05 May 2009 00:27:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=47814#comment-1519722 What is to stop people from burning the cigarettes in a fire or just dumping them in the trash? What is to stop people from burning the cigarettes in a fire or just dumping them in the trash?

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