Sixteen people banned from entering the UK were “named and shamed” by the Home Office today.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said she decided to make public the names of 16 people banned since October so others could better understand what sort of behaviour Britain was not prepared to tolerate. The list includes hate preachers, anti-gay protesters and a far- right US talk show host. “I think it’s important that people understand the sorts of values and sorts of standards that we have here, the fact that it’s a privilege to come and the sort of things that mean you won’t be welcome in this country,” Ms Smith told GMTV.
“We are publishing the names of 16 of those that we have excluded since October. We are telling people who they are and why it is we don’t want them in this country.” She said the number of people excluded from Britain had risen from an average of two a month to five a month since October. The list of the 16 “least wanted” includes radio talk show host Michael Savage, real name Michael Weiner.
“This is someone who has fallen into the category of fomenting hatred, of such extreme views and expressing them in such a way that it is actually likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence if that person were allowed into the country,” Ms Smith told BBC Breakfast.
“If people have so clearly overstepped the mark in terms of the way not just that they are talking but the sort of attitudes that they are expressing to the extent that we think that this is likely to cause or have the potential to cause violence or inter-community tension in this country, then actually I think the right thing is not to let them into the country in the first place. Not to open the stable door then try to close it later,” Ms Smith said.
Disturbing trend or great idea? Is free speech for everyone or just those you agree with? What about the radical clerics already in the UK, will they be deported?
Man, I really hate that whole ‘freedom of speech’ thing. Good to see someone doing something about it.
How come a Jew like Savage can get away with hate speech, directed as Muslims, such as this…
http://mediamatters.org/research/200812010009
During the November 26 broadcast of The Savage Nation, host Michael Savage discussed the terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India, that had started earlier that day and said, “The question to you is, what should the U.S. government do right now? Should the U.S. military be deployed? Should the tribal areas of Pakistan be wiped out and the rats killed in there once and for all? Should we nuke the tribal areas in Pakistan’s wild-man region and wipe out the terrorists once and for all?” Later, responding to a caller’s assertion that “We need to exterminate them like rats,” Savage said, “Yeah, we know where they’re coming from. … They’re in the tribal areas of western Pakistan. What the heck do we have nuclear weapons for? What are tactical nuclear weapons for but to wipe out an enemy? The enemy lives there — kill them and their families, and show them that the terror they inflict on the West will come home to roost and will be inflicted on them.” Savage later added, “There’s no question that entire region needs to be annihilated and stripped off the earth.”
When is the last time you heard a Muslim or Palestinian talk about Israelis on the radio like this? Can you imagine the fallout if such a thing did occur? He obviously gets a free pass to behave in such a vile and revolting manner just because he’s a Jew.
Pigs like Savage are dangerous and don’t belong on the airwaves… anywhere.
[violation of guidelines]
Here, let me fix the headline…
Michael Savage: Banned from a Civilized Country that Doesn’t Tolerate Hate Speech on the Airwaves
I’m sure a double standard will be in effect. The UK won’t refuse dictators to visit them. Just as long as their money is good, they’ll ignore the death squads and human rights abuses.
So I guess the Home Office has a bunch of its most privileged idiots watching satellite Tv, reading tons of newspapers, and browsing the internet. Looking for these unfavorable opinionated persons, that they can refuse a visit to. What’s that costing the british taxpayer? Keeping all those “bad press” investigators on payroll?
Well I can imagine “Wet Liberal” Bobbie Llewellyn (actor) is on the watch list. If he’s not careful, he could be booted out of his own country. So he’ll have to start cleaning up the language on his Youtube submits. And not step on as many toes as he may have previously planned to. Hey, you’re free to speak your mind, on the internet. Just don’t expect you’ll keep living in your country of origin.
“What Savage promotes, under the guise of entertainment, is outright violence against all minorities, armed insurrection against the US government, mass extermination of religious groups, selective ‘culling’ of the mentally and physically challenged, biological and chemical warfare against latinos, mass sterilization of those deemed unworthy, etc.”
Assuming he holds all of these views (I doubt that), tell me, how would the world be worse if all these things were brought into bring? How could the world suck more than it does now?
Included is the church who’s slogan and web address is “God Hates Fags” and with former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard Don Black.
Still, I rather have free speech in America.
The people on the right side of decent human tolerance will come to prevail. Loons like ALfred1 and ilk mere dinosaurs who’s turn will come.
INA: ACT 212 – GENERAL CLASSES OF ALIENS INELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE VISAS AND INELIGIBLE FOR ADMISSION; WAIVERS OF INADMISSIBILITY
read ’em
then talk shit.
reasons that can be used for denial of u.s. entry visa:
+ disease
+ drug addiction
+ criminal convictions of more than 1 year in prison (excluding political “crimes”)
+ multiple criminal convictions (excluding political “crimes”)
+ known drug trafficker
+ prostitutes
+ any govn’t official who has trampled on religious freedom
+ human traffickers
+ money launderers
+ spies
+ anyone looking to evade export rules
+ any activity a purpose of which is the opposition to, or the control or overthrow of, the Government of the United States by force, violence, or other unlawful means, is inadmissible.
+ terrorists
+ member of any group that espouses terrorist activity
+ terrorist recruiters
+ terrorist scouts
+ In general.-An alien whose entry or proposed activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is inadmissible.
+ communists
+ wwii era nazis
+ participant in genocide
+ child soldier recruiters
+ person who would become a “public charge” aka “ward of the state”
+ employment seekers (with the familiar list of exceptions)
+ unqualified doctors/health care workers
+ anyone already deported
+ anyone providing false documentation
+ smugglers
+ stowaways
+ student visa abusers
+ draft dodgers
+ practicing polygamists
+ Former citizens who renounced citizenship to avoid taxation
p.s. notably absent — shit talking radio jock
#75 , And? Which ones do you have a problem with?
#77
“+ practicing polygamists”
No that cant be it Saudi King Abdullah has something like 4 wives so that can’t be it.
I’d go with..
“+ In general.-An alien whose entry or proposed activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is inadmissible”
I see gorg put it in bold type for you to make it easy, like talking slow to some one with a learning disability.
>> jerry said, on May 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
>> The country let itself get over-run with Muslims, so what do they do? Ban Savage.
The average Muslims is FAR LESS DANGEROUS than Michael Savage.
Seriously. I’m not speaking in hyperbole.
The average Muslim does not foment hatred the way Savage does.
#77, Cow-Patty,
How about communists. Someone may be denied entry to the US simply because of what they believe politically. Missing was extremist right wing beliefs.
>> Toxic Asshead
>> There is no such thing as hate speech. Only speech.
What thu?
Of course, the content of speech matters. People get busted for the CONTENT of speech all the time.
For example, when a terrorist cell TALKS about how they are going to bomb something, is that ‘ONLY SPEECH’? Or is it terrorist speech?
Britain also banned Geert Wilders, a Dutch member of parliament who made a film depicting Muslim violence and comparing the Koran to Mein Kampf.
# 80 Mr. Fusion said, “How about communists.”
Hmm, let’s examine countries that have become communistic.
Please list which ones you would want to live in.
Next, add the total number murdered by communists in the last ~90 years.
Now, tell me why the US gov’t would want to allow insane people like that into the US…
The U.K. Government has a certain right to allow whomever they choose to enter their country. If this fellow is that much of a whacko over here, to have made himself known over there, it is probably a good thing they did not let him in the country. Some folks over there just might think all Americans are like him.
I also wouldn’t let anyone from the Taliban in my country either.
#83, Idiot Cow-Patty,
We are not comparing countries. This is about those with specific political views were denied entry while totally contrasting view holders were not barred.
It seems to me that some pretty right wing extremists such as Pinochet, Marcos, Somosa, the Shah of Iran, Ernst Zundel, Ian Paisly, and many others that had their own death squads were allowed into the US. But several communists in the same time frame were denied entry into the US because they were fleeing the right wing death squads.
I know, I know, you can justify it in your own pea brained mind so somehow it must be all right.
# 85 Mr. Fusion said, “We are not comparing countries.”
Right, we’re comparing the insane to the sane. Anyone, after seeing communism in action, who would then espouse such, is insane. The gov’t is correct in denying known insane people, entrance into the U.S.
@Paddy-O,
i don’t have a problem with any reason the state department may have for denying entry to anyone, they deported my british brother-in-law when he tried to come in on his expired student visa, which was his own stupid fault.
i’m just saying that entry into any nation is at the sole discretion of that nation, so all the whiners crying about some radio clown banned from the u.k. should pipe down.
america rejects people for political reasons all the time, big whoop, at least the brits are open about it
#78
fyi: the state department and attorney general have the right to grant waivers for people.
#86, Cow-Patty,
Well there’s another question you failed at.
Have you ever prevailed at an argument?
@Paddy-O
one thing that conservatives do that annoys me is assume that anyone who doesn’t think america is the best nation on earth must be insane.
this dangerously underestimates our enemies’ ability to plot our destruction, closes the door to the possibility of changing their mind, and as a belief could well lead to our peril.
just sayin’
#71 america has hosted many dictators
radio talk show hosts make money by stirring controversy, the brits decided they didn’t want his rabble-rousing in their country.
it’s their right do so. it was perfectly legal. show quit whining.
# 87 grog said, “i’m just saying that entry into any nation is at the sole discretion of that nation, ”
You are of course totally correct.
Can anyone imagine Michael Savage running a militia, starting a gang or accumulating a true following?
I mean, I guess the guy is somewhat successful for AM radio, but let’s keep it real.
Some cuntbag UK bureaucrat adding him to a list of people the UK fears is really a very disconcerting joke.
They’d have more credibility banning Cobra Commander or Lex Luthor than banning some late night AM radio windbag.
Meanwhile, I’m sure Mr. Savage is laughing all the way to the bank and some people in the UK (and the US) now know who he is.
I usually dont wish ill of someone, but when he comes on the radio and I am driving, I cant turn off the radio fast enough. I almost cause accidents in order to get to the dial fast. He is the most negative person I have ever listened too. His voice alone just radiates negativity, he had bad energy as far as I am concerned. Maybe this will make him think twice before he blabs out!
In fact, I am only on this sight because today while driving, I did it again and thought when I get home, I want to google him, to just see if he has horns… doesnt seem to match his voice and mannerism????
he has not lost his free speech right,he lost the priviledge to travel to another country.speech has consequences this is a consequence of his. any country has a right to deny any non citizen entry based on anything.he has NO right to go to GB.