Ventura: Give me a Waterboard, Cheney and One Hour and I’ll make him Confess to the Manson Murders
By McCullough Tuesday May 12, 2009
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Seems like Alfred1 was also a water boarded Navy Seal. Who would a thunk?
Anyway, love that talk straight Jesse Ventura! Love to see him stuff a Bobby Jindal into a soda can just for amusement.
Jesse Ventura seems to be a guy who says what he believes is true. I wish he’d reconsider leaving politics, because we have very few pols we can trust.
Jesse was right on so many issues in this interview it was refreshing to hear. Could we have a pay per view Cage of Death Match Ventura Vs. Cheney?
#13 “It just lowers America’s moral standard”
Hmmm….have you watched any TV, listened to popular music, counted the number of abortion, seen all the states going for same-sex marriage, murders in the streets, bankers et al screwing everyone out of their last penny?
Not sure we can do any more to hurt America’s “moral standard”!
#22 Which is why the Minnesota press and legislature hated him so much. Someone in power who plainly speaks his mind (whether right or wrong) just scares the crap out of them.
Why is it, it’s always the American Veteran that understands first the business end products of torture and war and abores them both.
It’s always the clueless simpletons, like # 2 Alfred1, # 9 MikeN, # 15 Fat_Anarchy, # 18 faustus and of course Dick Chenny who always think being more evil is how evil is beat back, so so Un-American.
Some bit of American history for the Un-American Simpletons::
John Adams argued that humane treatment of prisoners and deep concern for civilian populations not only reflected the American Revolution’s highest ideals, they were a moral and strategic requirement. His thoughts on the subject, expressed in a 1777 letter to his wife, might make a profitable read for Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld as we endeavor to win hearts and minds in Iraq. Adams wrote: “I know of no policy, God is my witness, but this — Piety, Humanity and Honesty are the best Policy. Blasphemy, Cruelty and Villainy have prevailed and may again. But they won’t prevail against America, in this Contest, because I find the more of them are employed, the less they succeed.”
In accordance with this proud American tradition, President Lincoln instituted the first formal code of conduct for the humane treatment of prisoners of war in 1863. Lincoln’s order forbade any form of torture or cruelty, and it became the model for the 1929 Geneva Convention. Dwight Eisenhower made a point to guarantee exemplary treatment to German POWs in World War II, and Gen. Douglas McArthur ordered application of the Geneva Convention during the Korean War, even though the U.S. was not yet a signatory.
Re: The Video.
Amen.
Ass
Torture is done by scared people looking for information they desperately want.
If some sicko had somebody I loved buried somewhere and time was running out I’m afraid that I would be more than willing to hurt them to make them talk.
That being said I thought it was wrong from day one. I even looked down the road and saw this day coming.
I have wondered from time to time if the information was worth it but we clearly lost the moral high ground and that was/is worth something as well.
On the other hand I do not now and never have wanted the people being held in Cuba inside the U.S. We know a lot of the ones we have released have gone back to their holy war and the ones not released are even more dangerous.
You want them out of Cuba? Let them live with you. Nobody else wants them alive.
My respect for Jesse has risen considerably after watching this. When the man’s right, he’s right.
# 29 deowll
Wrong:
Torture is done by scared people looking for information they desperately want.
Wrong, this wasn’t the case::
If some sicko had somebody I loved buried somewhere and time was running out….
The people who tortured where never in immediate or other wise any danger. The had their 9-5 jobs safely removed from the battle fields of Afghanistan and IRAQ.
The people who tortured violated their own training, ARMY FIELD Manual.
It’s too easy for a coward to beat on someone with the pretense of wanting information.
I can boldly say this because I am combat veteran who arbores torture, cowards and WAR.
# 29 deowll your nothing more then another ignorant coward, as is # 2 Alfred1, # 9 MikeN, # 15 Fat_Anarchy, # 18 faustus and of course Dick Chenny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
None of you are any good to your country or anything else. GO BACK TO RUSSIA where you belong.
I’ve always liked Jesse Ventura. However, I always seem to hear that he was a terrible governor for MN. I’ll have to research it to find out why. If Jesse Ventura runs for President for either the Libertarian or Constitution Party in 2012 (maybe Ron Paul can help) we may see a chance for some REAL change. If Ron Paul and Jesse team up… wow, could be pretty interesting.
Yeah, wishful thinking, but hey, it’s better than dealing with the two-party-is-really-one-party BS we’ve been dealing with for about 20+ years.
>Please enlighten us about this useful intelligence that was gathered.
Obama released memos to the public about waterboarding and other methods. Read those.
Well said #31. Except for the go back to Russia bit…
A store cop busted me doing some “Enhanced Shopping Techniques” but, thank goodness, a conservative judge let me off because my lawyer told me it was legal.
I love this country!
Jesse’s advice is probably about as good as his governorship.
Torture can be divided into 2 categories:
1. Torture that maims or permanently injures a person
2. Duress and discomfort
I would be against duress and discomfort for citizens, but I’m all for it for use against enemies of the state.
I am against actual torture defined as maiming or permanently injuring someone in all cases and do not believe the government should ever be allowed to do so.
#32 Carcarius you here stuff about him being a bad governor for MN because he pissed off the Republicans and the Democrats. I’m a native Minnesotan but I moved in 96, the rest of my family still lives in MN. I would have voted for Jesse in a heartbeat (he was Mayor of Brooklyn Park a Minneapolis suburb when I moved)
Jesse still managed to get things done even though he did not have any support in the state government.
#21
There goes Dallas again, acting about as cultured as that crap city he’s names himself after. Thanks a lot for the slam regarding the Navy Seals…real smart you jackass.
What’s this about stuffing Jindal is a can? Are you some kind of racist loser who feels threatened? WTF is so wrong with Jindal that he gets your panties in a bunch little man? Scared of ideas that differ from yours?
Give Jesse Ventura a water board, Alfred1, and one hour and Jesse will have Alfred1 confessing to having sex with sheep! Why? Because waterboarding is TORTURE, and with TORTURE you can get just about anyone to confess anything!
#38, Great Disappointment,
Anyone that claims they are a “Great American” just has to be a poser. When you are good, you don’t need to tell others.
Dallas did not “slam” the SEALS. Unlike you. SEALS is an acronym. By capitalizing it you just referred to the entire branch as an aquatic animal. I think they might like your apology.
Then you call Dallas a crap city. Several million people are crap? Yet somehow you are offended by Dallas’s discussing something in the video. What kind of effen moran are you?
Then you make a racist remark about Dallas. That is getting low.
The effen right wing nuts sure have a lot of pride in the likes of you.