Comments on: Trade Wars Brewing in Economic Malaise — With Canada! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: brendal http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1525280 brendal Mon, 18 May 2009 17:19:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1525280 Canada is a country because we said so. Canada is a country because we said so.

]]> By: Traaxx http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1524163 Traaxx Sat, 16 May 2009 12:35:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1524163 Yeah, that's right we make so much from Canada that we have a trade deficit, right. Now if we could just get ride of China, maybe we could have a few jobs here that American's will do. Oh, yeah forgot American's won't do any job, at least for the wages they pay in India or China. Yeah, let's see how Globalist President Hussein handles this. I'm sure we will cave like every other time, unless China says we can do otherwise, we don't won't to piss off China they might not lend us our money back... You know them being Commies and all they have an interest in our continued Good Economic Performance. Whatever....... TRAAXX Yeah, that’s right we make so much from Canada that we have a trade deficit, right. Now if we could just get ride of China, maybe we could have a few jobs here that American’s will do.

Oh, yeah forgot American’s won’t do any job, at least for the wages they pay in India or China. Yeah, let’s see how Globalist President Hussein handles this. I’m sure we will cave like every other time, unless China says we can do otherwise, we don’t won’t to piss off China they might not lend us our money back… You know them being Commies and all they have an interest in our continued Good Economic Performance.

Whatever…….
TRAAXX

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1524146 ECA Sat, 16 May 2009 09:21:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1524146 12, OR you can get some WHITE guy to go over and set up an industry thats been CURTAILED in the USA, for pollution. With CHEAP labor and NO regulations you can PAY people BARELY min wage for the region, and they cant QUIT. You can even take money and invest in a few schools to get education up. $1mill US is ALOT of money over there.. Hmm, I wonder if THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.. Should ask, Union CARBIDE.. 3M and many others that went to MEXICO, INDONESIA, INDIA,... 12,
OR you can get some WHITE guy to go over and set up an industry thats been CURTAILED in the USA, for pollution.
With CHEAP labor and NO regulations you can PAY people BARELY min wage for the region, and they cant QUIT.
You can even take money and invest in a few schools to get education up. $1mill US is ALOT of money over there..
Hmm, I wonder if THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED..
Should ask,
Union CARBIDE..
3M
and many others that went to MEXICO, INDONESIA, INDIA,…

]]> By: Max http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1524095 Max Sat, 16 May 2009 04:13:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1524095 To advocate buy American* _leads to serious problems_*.Those who have never studied *mineral economics* are the ones who put forth such advocacy. No nation is independent of all industrial raw minerals. The US has an abundance of only a few minerals. Other nations have an abundance of there own kind of minerals. All nations combined make up the over 100 raw industrial minerals. To obtain them there must be international flow of economic goods and services. Less than that will lead down the trail to starvation. Moreover for too long our religion has been work, work, work to keep the rest of the world alive or from shooting us. Why not turn this around and allow them to do the work. Export all our manual labor of manufacturing. They are human. Even with our help; they still live in famine. They too would like to earn a living and share in the international flow of goods and services. Why can't we adjust to loafing by creating new ideas for them to manufacture and we finance with international letters of credit. Ship us xxx ...amount of these products to these standards and this check will cash. We learn to _engineer, plan,develop finance and market the output_. I have described briefly what is happening and what will be like it or not. Americans are quick to assimilate and adjust to this by learning new occupations that fit this pattern. Those who do not will of course suffer. Of course here at home there will always be the things like a plumbing repair, electrical repair, building a house, run a bulldozer, drive a truck, teach students etc. etc. cannot be done by someone in Africa, India or anywhere but here in the US. Try this one on that email list chain letter about buy American. I see nothing wrong with advocating it; but it is equiv To advocate buy American* _leads to serious problems_*.Those who have never studied *mineral economics* are the ones who put forth such advocacy. No nation is independent of all industrial raw minerals. The US has an abundance of only a few minerals. Other nations have an abundance of there own kind of minerals. All nations combined make up the over 100 raw industrial minerals. To obtain them there must be international flow of economic goods and services. Less than that will lead down the trail to starvation.

Moreover for too long our religion has been work, work, work to keep the rest of the world alive or from shooting us. Why not turn this around and allow them to do the work. Export all our manual labor of manufacturing. They are human. Even with our help; they still live in famine. They too would like to earn a living and share in the international flow of goods and services. Why can’t we adjust to loafing by creating new ideas for them to manufacture and we finance with international letters of credit. Ship us xxx …amount of these products to these standards and this check will cash. We learn to _engineer, plan,develop finance and market the output_. I have described briefly what is happening and what will be like it or not.
Americans are quick to assimilate and adjust to this by learning new occupations that fit this pattern. Those who do not will of course suffer. Of course here at home there will always be the things like a plumbing repair, electrical repair, building a house, run a bulldozer, drive a truck, teach students etc. etc. cannot be done by someone in Africa, India or anywhere but here in the US.
Try this one on that email list chain letter about buy American. I see nothing wrong with advocating it; but it is equiv

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1524029 sargasso Fri, 15 May 2009 23:32:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1524029 Globalization removes barriers to world trade. The idea is, every country gets to do what it does best and the uncompetitive industries die. You can create an economy based on a zoo model, of endangered industrial species, like in France, but sooner or later you'll have to shoot and eat them all to survive. Globalization removes barriers to world trade. The idea is, every country gets to do what it does best and the uncompetitive industries die. You can create an economy based on a zoo model, of endangered industrial species, like in France, but sooner or later you’ll have to shoot and eat them all to survive.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1524002 Patrick Fri, 15 May 2009 21:51:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1524002 Yes, Obama the moronic (as he'll be known in future history books) really understands foreign relations... Yes, Obama the moronic (as he’ll be known in future history books) really understands foreign relations…

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523986 ECA Fri, 15 May 2009 20:50:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523986 5, BUSHjr installed a 25% tariff on canadian wood. according to NAFTA, there is NOT supposed to be ANY tariff. 5,
BUSHjr installed a 25% tariff on canadian wood.

according to NAFTA, there is NOT supposed to be ANY tariff.

]]> By: Mark Derail http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523978 Mark Derail Fri, 15 May 2009 20:19:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523978 Whenever the Can $ tanks way below the US $, the US buys milk from Quebec. This will definitely be interesting development. Whenever the Can $ tanks way below the US $, the US buys milk from Quebec.

This will definitely be interesting development.

]]> By: stopher2475 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523965 stopher2475 Fri, 15 May 2009 19:25:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523965 I heard this the other day. If you have to put a pin on your character with the guy's name on it, you're not a very good cartoonist. I heard this the other day. If you have to put a pin on your character with the guy’s name on it, you’re not a very good cartoonist.

]]> By: Angus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523960 Angus Fri, 15 May 2009 19:02:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523960 It's a lot harder to grift off an non-American, non-union company. Congress is just watching their own pocketbook, nothing to see here. It’s a lot harder to grift off an non-American, non-union company. Congress is just watching their own pocketbook, nothing to see here.

]]> By: LibertyLover http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523953 LibertyLover Fri, 15 May 2009 18:39:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523953 <i>In recent weeks, other Canadian manufacturers doing business with U.S. state and local governments say they have been besieged with requests to sign affidavits pledging that they will only supply materials made in the USA.</i> That's not entirely correct. They are signing statements saying the "company who is selling the goods" is an American company AND the goods are produced in America. We resold some goods, made by an American company, distributed by an American company who is owned by a foreign company (so I guess technically they aren't an American company anymore). The distributor cannot sell them the goods because all their owner-company's bank accounts are in the Cayman Islands. So we handled the paper -- which my lawyer said was legal and the government agent said was legal. So, I guess that means I won't go to jail :-) Do you have any idea how much MORE the government paid for those goods because of the hassle? I just had to go through that entire bureaucratic mess (or at least my CFO did) so I am familiar with this. In recent weeks, other Canadian manufacturers doing business with U.S. state and local governments say they have been besieged with requests to sign affidavits pledging that they will only supply materials made in the USA.

That’s not entirely correct. They are signing statements saying the “company who is selling the goods” is an American company AND the goods are produced in America.

We resold some goods, made by an American company, distributed by an American company who is owned by a foreign company (so I guess technically they aren’t an American company anymore). The distributor cannot sell them the goods because all their owner-company’s bank accounts are in the Cayman Islands. So we handled the paper — which my lawyer said was legal and the government agent said was legal. So, I guess that means I won’t go to jail :-)

Do you have any idea how much MORE the government paid for those goods because of the hassle? I just had to go through that entire bureaucratic mess (or at least my CFO did) so I am familiar with this.

]]> By: Named http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523947 Named Fri, 15 May 2009 18:30:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523947 3, Hey, with amount of tariffs you put on the wood we SHOULD cut the trade... 3,

Hey, with amount of tariffs you put on the wood we SHOULD cut the trade…

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523936 pedro Fri, 15 May 2009 18:04:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523936 What a hilarious comic strip...and so true What a hilarious comic strip…and so true

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523920 ECA Fri, 15 May 2009 17:57:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523920 LET them CUT the import of canadian wood, to the USA.. the USA ships its wood to CHINA.. watch price hit the roof. LET them CUT the import of canadian wood, to the USA..
the USA ships its wood to CHINA..
watch price hit the roof.

]]> By: Named http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/15/trade-wars-brewing-in-economic-malaise-with-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1523882 Named Fri, 15 May 2009 16:44:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=48615#comment-1523882 1, ZING! 1,

ZING!

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