“The military is over in the Middle East for Federal reasons, of course, but it’s State laws that put pot smokers in jail. Who do you blame for that: Obama, or Arnie?”
Actually, that’s pretty ignorant of you to say.
First off, possession of controlled substances is BOTH a Federal and a State crime. So, yes, the feds can bust you for smokin’ a J – they likely won’t, because they have “bigger fish to fry”, but the simple fact is that marijuana possession is a *federal* crime.
Second off, California *specifically* has incredibly lax laws on marijuana smoking and possession, to the point where in I believe in early to mid 2000s they tried to allow people to grow their own. What was the result? The DEA busted a medical marijuana grower who was not selling to *anyone*, was licensed by the state to grow the marijuana, and charged her in Federal court.
The (At this point *very* republican) Supreme Court of the United States (that’s a Federal agency, see) upheld the decision in I believe it was the fall of 2007, perhaps early 2008, and the conviction, because “interstate commerce” was affected by this woman’s choice to grow her own marijuana.
So no, these are primarily Federal problems, and I agree both Democrats and Republicans are responsible.
It is the propensity of the liberal mindset to do what is politically expedient, what gives the greatest recognition and accolades – as long as it doesn’t involve sacrifice or even heavy lifting.
The greatest Genocides of this century happened under the watch of liberals.
Roosevelt really couldn’t help it, but it still took a direct attack to get him into action. Carter, Clinton, Johnson, and Kennedy certainly could have done something, but instead they allowed many millions to die because of pressure from liberals.
Bush actually stopped an oppressive, genocidal maniac. Look where that got him. Moreover, look at who put him there.
You, in fact, are the exception. If I remember right, you did serve and give service for this country and helped others in like vein.
That makes you the exception, not the rule. I wish there were more like you. Kudos!
I’m now trying to figure out an appropriate name for our new commander in chief.
Bush Sr. – Taken
Bush Jr. – Taken
Bush Lite – Bingo!
Maybe this is one of the things we should like most about our new Commander. He has the moral compass to know what is the right thing to do, not just what is politically expedient.
Oh, and please don’t tell me about how much Bush spent. Bush Lite spent this amount many times over.
And please don’t spread the lie that Lite had to spend this money because it was already approved.
Lite has a pen, he did not have to sign. He has something called a Veto. He could have sent it back for review and reworking.
But the world would come to an end unless we spent all these trillions of dollars!!
Apparently not. Not to mention, wasn’t it Romney who said that the Automotive companies should go bankrupt? And who was it who promised this would never happen?
Was Lite ignorant or lying?
Bush was stupid, Lite isn’t, or so I hope although he is making the same mistakes.
Either that or he lied through his teeth at every opportunity to become commander in chief.
And let’s not even start talking about Pelosi, Reed, Boxer, Rockefeller, etc.
No, the ends DON’T justify the means. A lie is a lie is a lie.
Causes of death attributable to firearm mortality include ICD-10 Codes W32-W34, Accidental discharge of firearm; Codes X72-X74, Intentional self-harm by firearm; X93-X95, Assault by firearm; Y22-Y24, Firearm discharge, undetermined intent; and Y35, Legal intervention involving firearm discharge. Deaths from injury by firearms exclude deaths due to explosives and other causes indirectly related to firearms.
As we know DC doesn’t allow firearms at all, we can only assume that those deaths are mostly murder.
If you compare the populations of these states and look at the real stats, the states with the stricter gun control laws have more deaths by crime with firearms. The DoJ site can give you way more information that I care to copy and paste.
Comparing self-defense shootings with assault shootings is a typical liberal trick to make gun control look more appealing.
I prefer giving those hack job websites the finger and drawing my own conclusions. The only conclusion I draw from REAL data is that Europe and Britain must be lying about their stats and disarming it’s citizens because it makes it easier to make them subservient.
A few notes about guns and crime in my city, Toronto. I was born here, and have lived here my whole 50+ years and I don’t know anyone who has every owned a gun. We also has a very low murder rate compared with most US cities.
I think gun ownership is about 1% and the murder rate is about 2 per 100,000.
Why wonder? In the time it took you to write the question, you could have had the answer.
Vermont has a 42% gun ownership rate.
California has a 21.1% gun ownership rate.
DC has a 3.8% gun ownership rate.
The murder rate in Vermont is 1.3 people per 100,000
The murder rate in California is 6.7 per 100,000
The murder rate in DC is 35.4 per 100,000. 27 times worse than Vermont, while having less than 1/10th the guns.
Does that put the lie to the gun control argument? Yes, of course it does.
One more point: I’m not American, but even I can tell the difference between Federal, State, and Local issues and laws. The cartoonist seems to me to be addressing all of these, not just Federal laws. The military is over in the Middle East for Federal reasons, of course, but it’s State laws that put pot smokers in jail. Who do you blame for that: Obama, or Arnie?
“By and large, Liberals talk a good game but it’s a lie. They are all about doing good in the world but when it comes to putting their boots on the ground, they run to Canada.”
I think they all stayed in US and voted dude. We’re up to our asses in Republicans all whining about how hard it is to find Fox News on cable and buying up every Cuban cigar they can find. Please make the whinging stop, I beg you.
I would imagine those getting killed care. The friends and relatives of the victim usually care.
Of course if you take away all guns, gun murder goes down. But what about Total Murder?
Great idea. I think I would rather try to outrun a golf club or a knife than a gun from several feet away.
In the 1950s gangs were coming into the fore in most cities. Their usual weapons included knives, clubs, and similar hand weapons along with single shot, home made “zip guns”. Gang fights were quite common but deaths were relatively rare. For a peek into gang life, see west Side Story
Now move ahead about three or four decades when hand guns have flooded the market and heavier assault type weapons are common. The murder rate has soared to many times its previous marks. http://tinyurl.com/ohdl7z
“[Matthew Miller], Assistant Professor of Health Policy and Injury Prevention at Harvard School of Public Health, and his colleagues [David Hemenway] and [Deborah Azrael], used survey data from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2001 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, the world’s largest telephone survey with over 200,000 respondents nationwide. Respondents in all 50 states were asked whether any firearms were kept in or around their home. The survey found that approximately one in three American households reported firearm ownership.
[...]
Analyses that controlled for several measures of resource deprivation, urbanization, aggravated assault, robbery, unemployment, and alcohol consumption found that states with higher rates of household firearm ownership had significantly higher homicide victimization rates for children, and for women and men. In these analyses, states within the highest quartile of firearm prevalence had firearm homicide rates 114% higher than states within the lowest quartile of firearm prevalence. Overall homicide rates were 60% higher. The association between firearm prevalence and homicide was driven by gun-related homicide rates; non-gun-related homicide rates were not significantly associated with rates of firearm ownership. “
#39, Wow, they really screwed up their results. Just about every other study out there shows just the opposite. Methinks the guy is trying to justify his grant money.
“The military is over in the Middle East for Federal reasons, of course, but it’s State laws that put pot smokers in jail. Who do you blame for that: Obama, or Arnie?”
Actually, that’s pretty ignorant of you to say.
First off, possession of controlled substances is BOTH a Federal and a State crime. So, yes, the feds can bust you for smokin’ a J – they likely won’t, because they have “bigger fish to fry”, but the simple fact is that marijuana possession is a *federal* crime.
Second off, California *specifically* has incredibly lax laws on marijuana smoking and possession, to the point where in I believe in early to mid 2000s they tried to allow people to grow their own. What was the result? The DEA busted a medical marijuana grower who was not selling to *anyone*, was licensed by the state to grow the marijuana, and charged her in Federal court.
The (At this point *very* republican) Supreme Court of the United States (that’s a Federal agency, see) upheld the decision in I believe it was the fall of 2007, perhaps early 2008, and the conviction, because “interstate commerce” was affected by this woman’s choice to grow her own marijuana.
So no, these are primarily Federal problems, and I agree both Democrats and Republicans are responsible.
#13 bobbo
Just stating the facts.
It is the propensity of the liberal mindset to do what is politically expedient, what gives the greatest recognition and accolades – as long as it doesn’t involve sacrifice or even heavy lifting.
The greatest Genocides of this century happened under the watch of liberals.
Roosevelt really couldn’t help it, but it still took a direct attack to get him into action. Carter, Clinton, Johnson, and Kennedy certainly could have done something, but instead they allowed many millions to die because of pressure from liberals.
Bush actually stopped an oppressive, genocidal maniac. Look where that got him. Moreover, look at who put him there.
You, in fact, are the exception. If I remember right, you did serve and give service for this country and helped others in like vein.
That makes you the exception, not the rule. I wish there were more like you. Kudos!
I’m now trying to figure out an appropriate name for our new commander in chief.
Bush Sr. – Taken
Bush Jr. – Taken
Bush Lite – Bingo!
Maybe this is one of the things we should like most about our new Commander. He has the moral compass to know what is the right thing to do, not just what is politically expedient.
Oh, and please don’t tell me about how much Bush spent. Bush Lite spent this amount many times over.
And please don’t spread the lie that Lite had to spend this money because it was already approved.
Lite has a pen, he did not have to sign. He has something called a Veto. He could have sent it back for review and reworking.
But the world would come to an end unless we spent all these trillions of dollars!!
Apparently not. Not to mention, wasn’t it Romney who said that the Automotive companies should go bankrupt? And who was it who promised this would never happen?
Was Lite ignorant or lying?
Bush was stupid, Lite isn’t, or so I hope although he is making the same mistakes.
Either that or he lied through his teeth at every opportunity to become commander in chief.
And let’s not even start talking about Pelosi, Reed, Boxer, Rockefeller, etc.
No, the ends DON’T justify the means. A lie is a lie is a lie.
Isn’t that why we hate Bush?
#9, DC has the highest at ~30/100k.
Also, a little further research on the internet of what “death by firearm” actually means in these statistics:
http://tinyurl.com/oaluuh
Causes of death attributable to firearm mortality include ICD-10 Codes W32-W34, Accidental discharge of firearm; Codes X72-X74, Intentional self-harm by firearm; X93-X95, Assault by firearm; Y22-Y24, Firearm discharge, undetermined intent; and Y35, Legal intervention involving firearm discharge. Deaths from injury by firearms exclude deaths due to explosives and other causes indirectly related to firearms.
As we know DC doesn’t allow firearms at all, we can only assume that those deaths are mostly murder.
If you compare the populations of these states and look at the real stats, the states with the stricter gun control laws have more deaths by crime with firearms. The DoJ site can give you way more information that I care to copy and paste.
Comparing self-defense shootings with assault shootings is a typical liberal trick to make gun control look more appealing.
Yes, it looks like #9 Rakiah couldn’t buy a clue with all the money in the world.
Who cares about gun murders? Of course if you take away all guns, gun murder goes down. But what about Total Murder?
If they couldn’t reach for a gun, did they reach for a hammer, knife, club, or just bare hands?
So, what about total murders?
Turns out, Louisiana falls way behind the District of Columbia, puerto rico (of all places), and Maryland. All who have very restrictive gun laws.
But it makes sense. If you cannot defend yourself, you’re a victim.
Wow! The state with the lowest murder rate has practically no gun laws at all! Vermont!
http://disastercenter.com/crime/US_States_Rate_Ranking.html
#25 for the win re: per capita gun crime.
I prefer giving those hack job websites the finger and drawing my own conclusions. The only conclusion I draw from REAL data is that Europe and Britain must be lying about their stats and disarming it’s citizens because it makes it easier to make them subservient.
http://fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm
#26 hoot
Thank you very much!
It’s also amusing, when looking at the numbers, that the EVIL state of TEXAS, with it’s yokels and gun nuts is safer than California.
A few notes about guns and crime in my city, Toronto. I was born here, and have lived here my whole 50+ years and I don’t know anyone who has every owned a gun. We also has a very low murder rate compared with most US cities.
I think gun ownership is about 1% and the murder rate is about 2 per 100,000.
Here are some links
http://www3.thestar.com/static/googlemaps/starmaps.html?xml=080919_gunowners.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Toronto
#25 you give a link to Vermont’s low murder rate, but no link to their gun ownership rate.
You say they have very little gun control laws (again no link), but even if so, if no one owns a gun, then gun laws aren’t needed, are they?
I wonder how Vermont’s gun ownership rate compares to other mostly white, mostly rural, states with much higher murder rates.
Why wonder? In the time it took you to write the question, you could have had the answer.
Vermont has a 42% gun ownership rate.
California has a 21.1% gun ownership rate.
DC has a 3.8% gun ownership rate.
The murder rate in Vermont is 1.3 people per 100,000
The murder rate in California is 6.7 per 100,000
The murder rate in DC is 35.4 per 100,000. 27 times worse than Vermont, while having less than 1/10th the guns.
Does that put the lie to the gun control argument? Yes, of course it does.
http://swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1003599
I have no sympathy for tax deadbeats. I pay mine. I’ll thank you to pay yours or get out.
One more point: I’m not American, but even I can tell the difference between Federal, State, and Local issues and laws. The cartoonist seems to me to be addressing all of these, not just Federal laws. The military is over in the Middle East for Federal reasons, of course, but it’s State laws that put pot smokers in jail. Who do you blame for that: Obama, or Arnie?
Ah_Yea said:
“By and large, Liberals talk a good game but it’s a lie. They are all about doing good in the world but when it comes to putting their boots on the ground, they run to Canada.”
I think they all stayed in US and voted dude. We’re up to our asses in Republicans all whining about how hard it is to find Fox News on cable and buying up every Cuban cigar they can find. Please make the whinging stop, I beg you.
#25m Ah Yea,
Who cares about gun murders?
I would imagine those getting killed care. The friends and relatives of the victim usually care.
Of course if you take away all guns, gun murder goes down. But what about Total Murder?
Great idea. I think I would rather try to outrun a golf club or a knife than a gun from several feet away.
In the 1950s gangs were coming into the fore in most cities. Their usual weapons included knives, clubs, and similar hand weapons along with single shot, home made “zip guns”. Gang fights were quite common but deaths were relatively rare. For a peek into gang life, see west Side Story
Now move ahead about three or four decades when hand guns have flooded the market and heavier assault type weapons are common. The murder rate has soared to many times its previous marks.
http://tinyurl.com/ohdl7z
# 31 Ah_Yea said, “Does that put the lie to the gun control argument? Yes, of course it does.”
And, Ah_Yea successfully owns all gun control nuts on this board…
# 12 Mr. Fusion said, “Rakiah is correct. ”
Fusion, owned once again.
Cow-Patty
You are such an idiot. You wouldn’t know a statistic if it bit you in the female part.
Duh….Whoda Thunk!!!????
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2007-releases/press01112007.html
“[Matthew Miller], Assistant Professor of Health Policy and Injury Prevention at Harvard School of Public Health, and his colleagues [David Hemenway] and [Deborah Azrael], used survey data from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2001 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, the world’s largest telephone survey with over 200,000 respondents nationwide. Respondents in all 50 states were asked whether any firearms were kept in or around their home. The survey found that approximately one in three American households reported firearm ownership.
[...]
Analyses that controlled for several measures of resource deprivation, urbanization, aggravated assault, robbery, unemployment, and alcohol consumption found that states with higher rates of household firearm ownership had significantly higher homicide victimization rates for children, and for women and men. In these analyses, states within the highest quartile of firearm prevalence had firearm homicide rates 114% higher than states within the lowest quartile of firearm prevalence. Overall homicide rates were 60% higher. The association between firearm prevalence and homicide was driven by gun-related homicide rates; non-gun-related homicide rates were not significantly associated with rates of firearm ownership. “
#39, Wow, they really screwed up their results. Just about every other study out there shows just the opposite. Methinks the guy is trying to justify his grant money.