Comments on: Cancer patient held at airport because of missing fingerprints http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Glenn E. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1531454 Glenn E. Sat, 30 May 2009 08:13:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1531454 Presumably this could also effect US citizens who pick pineapples for a living. Because the acid in the fruit's skin also has been known to dissolve the fingerprints of the pickers, if they don't wear gloves. And who's going to wear those in the tropics? These pickers just better not make enough money to travel to the states. Or they'll be stopped for not having clear prints. As if real terrorists would call attention to themselves by burning off theirs. Far easier to fake ID papers, with their prints intact. The TSA and HLS is just being paranoid about people they can't trace. Not whether those they can, have real identities. Presumably this could also effect US citizens who pick pineapples for a living. Because the acid in the fruit’s skin also has been known to dissolve the fingerprints of the pickers, if they don’t wear gloves. And who’s going to wear those in the tropics? These pickers just better not make enough money to travel to the states. Or they’ll be stopped for not having clear prints. As if real terrorists would call attention to themselves by burning off theirs. Far easier to fake ID papers, with their prints intact. The TSA and HLS is just being paranoid about people they can’t trace. Not whether those they can, have real identities.

]]> By: Gaolbird http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1530305 Gaolbird Fri, 29 May 2009 03:16:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1530305 Our country.. our rules.. Our country.. our rules..

]]> By: Nimby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529765 Nimby Thu, 28 May 2009 17:19:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529765 # 4 Dallas said, "As long as we all agree that everyone needs to have fingerprints and at least one belly button when entering the US." Oh, I don't know about that. There's at least one supermodel who is accused of having no belly button. She can come visit me ANY time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm By the way, there are lots of people without navels. Usually surgical removals for one reason or another. I know one plastic surgeon who claims the usual practice of moving the navel during tummy tucks, frequently has requests to just get rid of it. # 4 Dallas said, “As long as we all agree that everyone needs to have fingerprints and at least one belly button when entering the US.” Oh, I don’t know about that. There’s at least one supermodel who is accused of having no belly button. She can come visit me ANY time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm

By the way, there are lots of people without navels. Usually surgical removals for one reason or another. I know one plastic surgeon who claims the usual practice of moving the navel during tummy tucks, frequently has requests to just get rid of it.

]]> By: BillM http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529732 BillM Thu, 28 May 2009 16:49:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529732 Sargasso, you have it backwards. The wall in Germany was to keep their people from leaving. Sure as hell no one was trying to sneak in! Sargasso, you have it backwards. The wall in Germany was to keep their people from leaving. Sure as hell no one was trying to sneak in!

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529680 sargasso Thu, 28 May 2009 15:42:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529680 Paranoia once built a wall in Germany. Paranoia once built a wall in Germany.

]]> By: Blogger Bob http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529679 Blogger Bob Thu, 28 May 2009 15:41:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529679 FYI - This incident involved ICE, not TSA. Thanks, Bob FYI – This incident involved ICE, not TSA.

Thanks,

Bob

]]> By: Sea Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529678 Sea Lawyer Thu, 28 May 2009 15:34:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529678 #10, you need to have an RFDI chip installed in your hook. It's likely much easier to explain not having a hand than it is to explain to an immigration official's satisfaction why you don't have fingerprints. #10, you need to have an RFDI chip installed in your hook.

It’s likely much easier to explain not having a hand than it is to explain to an immigration official’s satisfaction why you don’t have fingerprints.

]]> By: Ron Larson http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529676 Ron Larson Thu, 28 May 2009 15:08:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529676 What is ICE's procedure for travelers who have no hands? Why can't they treat this guy the same way? What is ICE’s procedure for travelers who have no hands? Why can’t they treat this guy the same way?

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529674 Mr. Fusion Thu, 28 May 2009 15:01:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529674 I gotta go with that Mac Guy. A letter signed by the Singapore Embassy attesting that he is undergoing the treatments would have made the inspection much smoother. I gotta go with that Mac Guy. A letter signed by the Singapore Embassy attesting that he is undergoing the treatments would have made the inspection much smoother.

]]> By: Mac Guy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529668 Mac Guy Thu, 28 May 2009 14:48:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529668 #3 and #5 - This isn't TSA, this is ICE. Fingerprints are a standard part of the biometrics involved in obtaining a visa, and they have been since 2002. I see nothing wrong with how this was handled. ICE found an aberration in the process, and they resolved it with success. Entering a country, any country, isn't a right. It is a privilege. #3 and #5 – This isn’t TSA, this is ICE.

Fingerprints are a standard part of the biometrics involved in obtaining a visa, and they have been since 2002.

I see nothing wrong with how this was handled. ICE found an aberration in the process, and they resolved it with success.

Entering a country, any country, isn’t a right. It is a privilege.

]]> By: faxon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529667 faxon Thu, 28 May 2009 14:44:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529667 In the UK they now have lamppost mounted RF ID fingerprint readers, I heard. In the UK they now have lamppost mounted RF ID fingerprint readers, I heard.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529665 bobbo Thu, 28 May 2009 14:44:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529665 Well this item should never have been released. Now the terrorists know that if they are on cancer treatments they can get by our homeland security. We are practically inviting them in!!! Well this item should never have been released. Now the terrorists know that if they are on cancer treatments they can get by our homeland security.

We are practically inviting them in!!!

]]> By: Eideards#1Fan http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529658 Eideards#1Fan Thu, 28 May 2009 14:25:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529658 Foreigner with no detectable fingerprints gets detained, then released and allowed to enter after they confirm the explanation for this highly suspicious oddity. Yeah, thanks for adding your usual political hack commentary. TSA really are a bunch of dumbfucks. /rollseyes Foreigner with no detectable fingerprints gets detained, then released and allowed to enter after they confirm the explanation for this highly suspicious oddity.

Yeah, thanks for adding your usual political hack commentary. TSA really are a bunch of dumbfucks. /rollseyes

]]> By: Dallas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529657 Dallas Thu, 28 May 2009 14:25:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529657 #2 Ahh. As long as we all agree that everyone needs to have fingerprints and at least one belly button when entering the US. #2 Ahh. As long as we all agree that everyone needs to have fingerprints and at least one belly button when entering the US.

]]> By: newrepublican http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/cancer-patient-held-at-airport-because-of-missing-fingerprints/comment-page-1/#comment-1529655 newrepublican Thu, 28 May 2009 14:17:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49637#comment-1529655 The rest of us should just carry a letter for ALL TSA employees - saying "you're a fracking idiot!" The rest of us should just carry a letter for ALL TSA employees – saying “you’re a fracking idiot!”

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