Comments on: Java HTML5 will kill the OS! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:26:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stephen Morse http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1532085 Stephen Morse Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:36:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1532085 Access unlimited movies,music,TV,games and more downloaded to any cell phone. http://smartappsdownloader.com/78571 Access unlimited movies,music,TV,games and more downloaded to any cell phone.
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]]> By: Al http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1531099 Al Fri, 29 May 2009 21:08:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1531099 #16 Commodore 64 "By the way, cell phones are for placing phone calls, not buying or selling stocks or giving away my location via GPS, or listening to music. Gah!" And sex toys are "novelty devices." You sound grizzled. #16 Commodore 64

“By the way, cell phones are for placing phone calls, not buying or selling stocks or giving away my location via GPS, or listening to music. Gah!”

And sex toys are “novelty devices.” You sound grizzled.

]]> By: Hassan Maynard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530721 Hassan Maynard Fri, 29 May 2009 14:03:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530721 My Uncle made a great statement... "Interesting article, but it doesn't consider the fact that Oracle now owns java.....what will Oracle do with it????" My Uncle made a great statement…

“Interesting article, but it doesn’t consider the fact that Oracle now owns java…..what will Oracle do with it????”

]]> By: Patrick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530686 Patrick Fri, 29 May 2009 13:20:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530686 Let's test the theory. Wipe the OS from your machine, fire up your browser... Oops! Let’s test the theory. Wipe the OS from your machine, fire up your browser… Oops!

]]> By: The Commodore http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530523 The Commodore Fri, 29 May 2009 09:03:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530523 Again, it's all about ownership and control of the data and the environment that manipulates that data. By adding yet another layer of abstraction between the machine and the data that controls the storage (ownership) of that data, the less in control I am of that data. More function in the browser doesn't buy me more control in an offline environment, therefore I don't want to make the effort to place all my digital goodies in the hands of my browser (ie someone else). By the way, cell phones are for placing phone calls, not buying or selling stocks or giving away my location via GPS, or listening to music. Gah! Again, it’s all about ownership and control of the data and the environment that manipulates that data. By adding yet another layer of abstraction between the machine and the data that controls the storage (ownership) of that data, the less in control I am of that data. More function in the browser doesn’t buy me more control in an offline environment, therefore I don’t want to make the effort to place all my digital goodies in the hands of my browser (ie someone else).

By the way, cell phones are for placing phone calls, not buying or selling stocks or giving away my location via GPS, or listening to music. Gah!

]]> By: Don http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530424 Don Fri, 29 May 2009 06:12:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530424 What a non story. No half baked web software will ever replace the OS. Because 99% of computer users need Winblows to guide their ignorant asses to HTML5. Mobile computing is just a side note, cause once you get home, are going to continue to Twitter on your iphone, or boot up the laptop? The game I am currently playing is Dawn Of War II. Is there any chance in Hell that a cutting edge 3D shoot em up could be written in a web based OS? Don't sell the MS stock based on this story. Don What a non story. No half baked web software will ever replace the OS. Because 99% of computer users need Winblows to guide their ignorant asses to HTML5.

Mobile computing is just a side note, cause once you get home, are going to continue to Twitter on your iphone, or boot up the laptop?

The game I am currently playing is Dawn Of War II. Is there any chance in Hell that a cutting edge 3D shoot em up could be written in a web based OS?

Don’t sell the MS stock based on this story.

Don

]]> By: Hmeyers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530417 Hmeyers Fri, 29 May 2009 05:54:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530417 #9 nominated for 2009's funniest/concise/truthful statement seen on this blog. #9 nominated for 2009′s funniest/concise/truthful statement seen on this blog.

]]> By: Hmeyers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530414 Hmeyers Fri, 29 May 2009 05:51:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530414 #5 for the win! #5 for the win!

]]> By: Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530395 Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection Fri, 29 May 2009 05:21:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530395 I'd like to run apps in tabs instead of windows. I’d like to run apps in tabs instead of windows.

]]> By: worldviewpr http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530390 worldviewpr Fri, 29 May 2009 05:13:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530390 Oh great Another version of Exploder that won't be standards compliant. BGR Oh great

Another version of Exploder that won’t be standards compliant.

BGR

]]> By: Ron Larson http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530325 Ron Larson Fri, 29 May 2009 03:41:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530325 Java... write once, run poorly everywhere. I put Java in the same bucket as communism and Esperanto. All sound nice on paper, but not so well in practice. Java… write once, run poorly everywhere.

I put Java in the same bucket as communism and Esperanto. All sound nice on paper, but not so well in practice.

]]> By: Ron Larson http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530326 Ron Larson Fri, 29 May 2009 03:41:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530326 Java... write once, run poorly everywhere. I put Java in the same bucket as communism and Esperanto. All sound nice on paper, but not so well in practice. Java… write once, run poorly everywhere.

I put Java in the same bucket as communism and Esperanto. All sound nice on paper, but not so well in practice.

]]> By: qb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530174 qb Fri, 29 May 2009 01:03:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530174 It's not going to do everything but a lot of alpha geeks who I respect are pretty keen on it. Personally I think it's got legs and Google has a shot now that they've moved off Python as the only language for their app engine. Of course we'll just have to wait and see. Of course I'm hoping it does well, if I have to write another .NET app I'll stick needles in my eyes. One thing I didn't mention, if you watch GoogleIO keynote click the right arrow to move to second part of the presentation. The first part is really bad graphics and music. It’s not going to do everything but a lot of alpha geeks who I respect are pretty keen on it. Personally I think it’s got legs and Google has a shot now that they’ve moved off Python as the only language for their app engine. Of course we’ll just have to wait and see.

Of course I’m hoping it does well, if I have to write another .NET app I’ll stick needles in my eyes.

One thing I didn’t mention, if you watch GoogleIO keynote click the right arrow to move to second part of the presentation. The first part is really bad graphics and music.

]]> By: mikiev http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530164 mikiev Fri, 29 May 2009 00:50:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530164 "We’ve heard that story before. Java was supposed to raise apps above the level of the operating system, offering cross-platform “write once, run everywhere” applications that would break the coupling between an application and a specific operating system. Proponents predicted Windows would become less important with the rise of Java apps." Yes, we heard that story before... which is when Microsoft "supported" Java by adding all sorts of Windows-only code into their version - and Sun had to fight in court to get the "Java" stickers off of the Microsoft boxes. Microsoft had already cut off Netscape's air supply, for the same reason... the threat of the browser becoming the OS. I'm curious to see if the third time is a charm. “We’ve heard that story before. Java was supposed to raise apps above the level of the operating system, offering cross-platform “write once, run everywhere” applications that would break the coupling between an application and a specific operating system. Proponents predicted Windows would become less important with the rise of Java apps.”

Yes, we heard that story before… which is when Microsoft “supported” Java by adding all sorts of Windows-only code into their version – and Sun had to fight in court to get the “Java” stickers off of the Microsoft boxes.

Microsoft had already cut off Netscape’s air supply, for the same reason… the threat of the browser becoming the OS.

I’m curious to see if the third time is a charm.

]]> By: qb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/28/java-html5-will-kill-the-os/comment-page-1/#comment-1530134 qb Fri, 29 May 2009 00:22:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49699#comment-1530134 The GoogleIO keynote is causing the press on this (http://bit.ly/Xb1KT). The iPhone 3, Android, and Palm Pre will all support HTML 5. Safari supports most of HTML 5 now and Firefox with 3.5. The other big thing to look at are the Javascript engines. As for cloud, all these players will support offline caching of the app and data for non-connected use (like GMail labs does now). Microsoft "hopes" to support HTML 5. The GoogleIO keynote is causing the press on this (http://bit.ly/Xb1KT). The iPhone 3, Android, and Palm Pre will all support HTML 5. Safari supports most of HTML 5 now and Firefox with 3.5. The other big thing to look at are the Javascript engines.

As for cloud, all these players will support offline caching of the app and data for non-connected use (like GMail labs does now).

Microsoft “hopes” to support HTML 5.

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