Comments on: AMA Alliance wants R rating for every single film with smoking http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:23:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531666 Jägermeister Sat, 30 May 2009 19:32:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531666 Digitally remove the cigarettes... or replace them with something else, like a lollipop or a dildo. Digitally remove the cigarettes… or replace them with something else, like a lollipop or a dildo.

]]> By: Cursor_ http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531479 Cursor_ Sat, 30 May 2009 12:09:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531479 What I don't understand is why is there a higher percentage of people that smoke in films than in real life? I can go down the streets of my town and see fewer people smoking than 10, 20 or 30 years ago. In fact it is so limited that it seems ODD to see people smoke still. But films have people smoking up a storm. And you have to think that filmmakers must still be stuck in the 1970's with their thought. To give it an R rating will never float. I just think people in Hollywood so wake up and see it is almost 2010 not 1975. Cursor_ What I don’t understand is why is there a higher percentage of people that smoke in films than in real life?

I can go down the streets of my town and see fewer people smoking than 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

In fact it is so limited that it seems ODD to see people smoke still.

But films have people smoking up a storm. And you have to think that filmmakers must still be stuck in the 1970′s with their thought.

To give it an R rating will never float. I just think people in Hollywood so wake up and see it is almost 2010 not 1975.

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]]> By: Pure bullshit http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531475 Pure bullshit Sat, 30 May 2009 11:51:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531475 Ok, so let's compare health conditions. Kids grow up watching movies with smokers puffing away and they light up at 13, keep smoking until 85 or 65 when they die of lung cancer. Then we have kids growing up with movies, Saturday morning boob toons where they see sugar blasted on their brains in every second, their teeth rot out at 5 years of age, they get diabetes at 9, and they die at 42, never smoking even one cigarette, while mom and dad get thrown out of the hospital because they were smoking. Ok, so let’s compare health conditions. Kids grow up watching movies with smokers puffing away and they light up at 13, keep smoking until 85 or 65 when they die of lung cancer. Then we have kids growing up with movies, Saturday morning boob toons where they see sugar blasted on their brains in every second, their teeth rot out at 5 years of age, they get diabetes at 9, and they die at 42, never smoking even one cigarette, while mom and dad get thrown out of the hospital because they were smoking.

]]> By: dvdchris http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531390 dvdchris Sat, 30 May 2009 03:28:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531390 Unless a film's rating is known to be from sexual content, the vast majority of parents pay little attention to film ratings. I have 6 years movie theater and 12 years video store experience behind that statement. If this actually goes through, I promise you parents will completely stop paying attention to them. Of course, it doesn't help that the ratings system has become utterly meaningless when dealing with anything other than a (as currently rated) G or PG film. PG ratings used to be rated that for a reason. Go back and watch any number of PG films from the 70s/early 80s and see the nudity and F-words that were included. Now PG is the new G and PG13 is meaningless. When studios can appeal a rating, and making no cuts to a film, have a rating reduced from an R to a PG13, the rating is meaningless. And what do clergy and reps from NATO (National Theater Owners) have to do with a ratings appeal? The MPAA needs to abandon it's broken age-based ratings system for a content based one. Unless a film’s rating is known to be from sexual content, the vast majority of parents pay little attention to film ratings. I have 6 years movie theater and 12 years video store experience behind that statement. If this actually goes through, I promise you parents will completely stop paying attention to them.
Of course, it doesn’t help that the ratings system has become utterly meaningless when dealing with anything other than a (as currently rated) G or PG film. PG ratings used to be rated that for a reason. Go back and watch any number of PG films from the 70s/early 80s and see the nudity and F-words that were included.
Now PG is the new G and PG13 is meaningless. When studios can appeal a rating, and making no cuts to a film, have a rating reduced from an R to a PG13, the rating is meaningless.
And what do clergy and reps from NATO (National Theater Owners) have to do with a ratings appeal?
The MPAA needs to abandon it’s broken age-based ratings system for a content based one.

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531329 Jägermeister Sat, 30 May 2009 01:52:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531329 #24 - MikeN - <i>I thought movies don’t influence people’s behavior?</i> <a href="http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=113255" rel="nofollow">They don't.</a> #24 – MikeN – I thought movies don’t influence people’s behavior?

They don’t.

]]> By: RSweeney http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531239 RSweeney Sat, 30 May 2009 00:03:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531239 That which is not mandatory is prohibited. The fascist credo. That which is not mandatory is prohibited.

The fascist credo.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531235 MikeN Fri, 29 May 2009 23:57:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531235 I thought movies don't influence people's behavior? I thought movies don’t influence people’s behavior?

]]> By: Hmeyers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531228 Hmeyers Fri, 29 May 2009 23:53:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531228 I think that any movie with a fat person in it should be rated R. We should not be promoting bodily neglect to the children. /End sarcasm I think that any movie with a fat person in it should be rated R.

We should not be promoting bodily neglect to the children.

/End sarcasm

]]> By: Esteban http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531157 Esteban Fri, 29 May 2009 22:20:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531157 I hate smoking, but not as much as I hate censorship. I hate smoking, but not as much as I hate censorship.

]]> By: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-2/#comment-1531139 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Fri, 29 May 2009 21:56:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531139 hmmm.. puffing on electronic cig as i type.. hmmm.. hmmm.. puffing on electronic cig as i type.. hmmm..

]]> By: Jim in Seattle http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-1531072 Jim in Seattle Fri, 29 May 2009 20:29:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531072 WOW, this is really going to impact all my favorite sci-fi films from the 50's and 60's because EVERYONE smoked in those things! In "It! Terror From Beyond Space," the astronauts smoked while playing chess! And what about "The Twilight Zone?" Rod Serling had a lit ciggie in a lot of his intros! (But not for "Night Gallery.") WOW, this is really going to impact all my favorite sci-fi films from the 50′s and 60′s because EVERYONE smoked in those things! In “It! Terror From Beyond Space,” the astronauts smoked while playing chess! And what about “The Twilight Zone?” Rod Serling had a lit ciggie in a lot of his intros! (But not for “Night Gallery.”)

]]> By: Mojo Yugen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-1531029 Mojo Yugen Fri, 29 May 2009 19:29:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531029 Not to distract from the main point of the article/comments but this is NOT the AMA doing this, it's the AMA Alliance. Which, as far as I can tell, has noting to do with the AMA but is just using a similar name to lend some credibility to it's wacked-out organization. Not to distract from the main point of the article/comments but this is NOT the AMA doing this, it’s the AMA Alliance. Which, as far as I can tell, has noting to do with the AMA but is just using a similar name to lend some credibility to it’s wacked-out organization.

]]> By: brm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-1531011 brm Fri, 29 May 2009 19:00:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1531011 Why don't we just have a bunch of additional codes to put on the rating? Example: PG-13 SGO = suitable for 13-year olds who are allowed to see smoking, gays, and obesity. Whatever. My parents never cared about ratings. I've been watching R-rated movies since I was seven. Why don’t we just have a bunch of additional codes to put on the rating? Example:

PG-13 SGO = suitable for 13-year olds who are allowed to see smoking, gays, and obesity.

Whatever. My parents never cared about ratings. I’ve been watching R-rated movies since I was seven.

]]> By: jccalhoun http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-1530993 jccalhoun Fri, 29 May 2009 18:37:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1530993 I hate smoking and I also hate the MPAA but this is just stupid. Why not make every movie that features someone driving without a seatbelt R-rated? I see that in practically every action movie while I can't remember the last movie I saw that had smoking in it. I hate smoking and I also hate the MPAA but this is just stupid. Why not make every movie that features someone driving without a seatbelt R-rated? I see that in practically every action movie while I can’t remember the last movie I saw that had smoking in it.

]]> By: Angus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/29/ama-alliance-wants-r-rating-for-every-single-film-with-smoking/comment-page-1/#comment-1530966 Angus Fri, 29 May 2009 18:04:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49736#comment-1530966 So...smoking is on par with sex and nudity? So...my wife can now run around topless, or are you going to arrest anyone smoking in public? So…smoking is on par with sex and nudity? So…my wife can now run around topless, or are you going to arrest anyone smoking in public?

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