I was being sarcastic on how the Republicans blame every Democrat Administration but pretend that nothing bad happened during their Republican Rule.

It seems like it’s true that soldiers are unable to think though.

By the way, I am a vet.

Way to dig up 4 year old stats. What a tool!

#3 made some great points about drugs in the army. im sure a large percentage if not the majority of suicides could be attributed to this. but hey, thats how ‘donations’ get paid back.

I seriously doubt that any of the services have a clue as to what training is effective at correcting or preventing bad behavior. They just concoct some program to satisfy a need. And go with it, until it becomes all too obvious that it’s flawed or ineffective. And then try a quick fix or two (or three). And maybe eventually resort to doing something new. But to actually consult scientists, in creating an effective training program. You’ve got to be kidding me. The military only spend that kind of big buck on designing weapon systems. Ft. Campbell will just “shut down” until the newsmen go away. They aren’t going to solve this problem, in the long term. Just throw water on it, for now. And hope the suicides to reoccur to soon, for the news services to make a issue of it.

This current spate of suicides is probably the result of wearing out the few remaining combat soldiers that the Army has left. The sane and stable ones all got killed, earlier. Only the “lucky ones” managed to return from Iraq, only to be sent back a second or third time as their reward. All this to keep from enacting a draft. Which would really make this war unpopular in a hurry. But by just burning thru the volunteers. Guys like Cheney hoped to prolong the war, as much as possible, with resorting the draft. Which would turn the entire public against it, practically overnight. So these suicides are the price of prolonging this war, with such a depleted force. And for whatever agenda its proponents had in mind (taking over the oil, most likely).

I’ll bet there was a rise in suicides near the end of both the Korean and Vietnam wars. The public’s and soldiers’ growing intolerance, seems to be the only thing that puts an end to wars, since WW2. The politician and generals will happily keep us fighting, until then. Only their own political suicide (if they support an unpopular war), is deemed cause to call it off, anymore. And these days, they just shift the fighting to a new location. Our armed forces have been hopping from one trouble spot to another, for that last couple of decades. With barely a break between them. What ever happened to that so-called “peace dividend” for leaving West Germany? It got eaten up by all the new wars that followed.

Hey Troublemaker Troll piece of shit. WTF is up with you calling them thugs? You’re a sad animal walking around as a human being.

Go die in a fire.

“Confirmed or Suspected Suicides”

well..?? did they kill themselves or not??

and since when has the military EVER
stated the truth about circumstances behind military deaths when there is no publicly available video of said deaths?

dollars to dognuts, this nothing
more than damage control and tying up lose ends.

11 suicides stateside? i’ll give them 3 at most, the rest knew too much,
or were complicate in questionable orders.

you people are brainwashed beyond
belief.

this is about as believable as the FBI’s claim of idiots they fingered
for the synagogue terror plot last week.

the government is imploding from
corruption and frantically trying
to plug all the holes.

hope your enjoying your guilded
cages. within a few months, you’ll
be naked and in the streets from
your ignorance.

-s

Army suicide rate = 20.2 / 100,000
Civilian rate = 19.5 / 100,000
Marine suicide rate = 16.5 / 100,000

What hack site are you getting your stats from?

US suicide rate was 11.1 in 2005…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

The Army’s suicide count considers “active-duty soldiers and activated National Guard and reserves.” according to the above article from CNN.

Question: Is the training of the activated National Guard and reserves similar to that of the Army?

Also, the Marine Corps Times article states “The Corps emphasizes its “leave no man behind” ethos in the latest training package.” [of suicide prevention to be completed by March 31]

Of course I wasn’t in the basic “back in the old days” but I believe that the Army’s new combat focused training is better suited to our current mission and is not “soft”. Just because they’re no longer allowed to beat a trainee doesn’t mean the training is less efficient. I was 32 years old when I enlisted and have lived a diverse and professional life before the Army. I think there was plenty of stress and hardship placed upon the trainees. Much more so than the big Army who allows overweight Soldiers to progress by pencil whipping PT and rage cards. I believe the stress comes from sub-standard middle management e.g, junior NCO’s and company grade officers who don’t know how to manage a Soldier’s time so that tasks and details are completed quickly and correctly which then allows the Soldier to go home and relax or spend time with family or friends.

Do you have some data on the life expectancy of the three categories?