Comments on: No Smiling Allowed… on Virginia Drivers License Sez DMV http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:53:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: iphone for free http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1758205 iphone for free Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:04:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1758205 im often roaming all across the internet almost all of the time which means that I have a propensity to browse considerably, which isn't typically a good matter as nearly all of the web sites I see are made up of pointless rubbish copied from various other internet sites a thousand times, on the other hand I'll hand it to ya this website is in truth enjoyable and even seems to have some original substance, so thank you for breaking the trends of solely replicating other people's blogs :) im often roaming all across the internet almost all of the time which means that I have a propensity to browse considerably, which isn’t typically a good matter as nearly all of the web sites I see are made up of pointless rubbish copied from various other internet sites a thousand times, on the other hand I’ll hand it to ya this website is in truth enjoyable and even seems to have some original substance, so thank you for breaking the trends of solely replicating other people’s blogs :)

]]> By: bobe_bear5 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1674539 bobe_bear5 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:25:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1674539 I think its ignorant that they wont give ya license to ya til 30 days i mean i payed almost 40 bucks for freakin things! I think its ignorant that they wont give ya license to ya til 30 days i mean i payed almost 40 bucks for freakin things!

]]> By: Barnaby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1532363 Barnaby Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:33:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1532363 Summary of a study on eye surgery vs iris scan accuracy: <i>Cataract surgeries change iris textures in such a way that iris recognition systems, which perform mathematical comparisons of textural biometric features, are able to detect these changes and sometimes even discard a pre-enrolled iris considering it an impostor. In our study, re-enrollment proved to be a feasible procedure. ... </i> From a biometric FAQ: <i> Colored contact lenses can reduce the accuracy of iris scans, as can the use of drugs that dilate your pupils.</i> Summary of a study on eye surgery vs iris scan accuracy:
Cataract surgeries change iris textures in such a way that iris recognition systems, which perform mathematical comparisons of textural biometric features, are able to detect these changes and sometimes even discard a pre-enrolled iris considering it an impostor. In our study, re-enrollment proved to be a feasible procedure.

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From a biometric FAQ:

Colored contact lenses can reduce the accuracy of iris scans, as can the use of drugs that dilate your pupils.

]]> By: brm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1532291 brm Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:21:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1532291 #32: "Iris damage is rare" Can you still read the iris through a cataract? Or a colored contact lens? dunno, just asking. #32:

“Iris damage is rare”

Can you still read the iris through a cataract? Or a colored contact lens?

dunno, just asking.

]]> By: Olo Baggins of Bywater http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1532090 Olo Baggins of Bywater Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:55:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1532090 #28, ummm, that's incorrect. Iris damage is rare, otherwise it'll never change throughout your life. Fingerprints are easily damaged, permanently and temporarily. And fingerprints are easily faked, too. DNA is irrelevant. #31...This subject reminds me of the RFID paranoia prevalent on this blog. :) #28, ummm, that’s incorrect. Iris damage is rare, otherwise it’ll never change throughout your life. Fingerprints are easily damaged, permanently and temporarily. And fingerprints are easily faked, too.

DNA is irrelevant.

#31…This subject reminds me of the RFID paranoia prevalent on this blog. :)

]]> By: geezopete http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1532051 geezopete Sun, 31 May 2009 22:16:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1532051 What are you people trying to hide? What are you doing that you don't want people to be able to identify you? Do you think it would be fine for you to walk around wearing a ski mask all the time? That's essentially what you're asking for: "I want to be unidentifiable to the police should I commit a crime" What are you people trying to hide? What are you doing that you don’t want people to be able to identify you? Do you think it would be fine for you to walk around wearing a ski mask all the time? That’s essentially what you’re asking for: “I want to be unidentifiable to the police should I commit a crime”

]]> By: chuck http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531981 chuck Sun, 31 May 2009 17:20:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531981 We have this in Canada now - you can't smile for passport or driver's license photos. Interestingly, you can insist on wearing a face-covering veil and burka if are a female Muslim. (Or if you are pretending to be one.) We have this in Canada now – you can’t smile for passport or driver’s license photos.

Interestingly, you can insist on wearing a face-covering veil and burka if are a female Muslim. (Or if you are pretending to be one.)

]]> By: Knotta Trole http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531965 Knotta Trole Sun, 31 May 2009 16:48:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531965 "We are being governed by idiots." IN GENERAL, these guys are who were voted in. We get the government we deserve. BTW this means all we have to do to avoid face recognition is go around with a sh*t eating grin all the time. “We are being governed by idiots.”

IN GENERAL, these guys are who were voted in. We get the government we deserve.

BTW this means all we have to do to avoid face recognition is go around with a sh*t eating grin all the time.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531938 Patrick Sun, 31 May 2009 14:57:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531938 11 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, "and only an iris scan is reliable over time." Umm, no. Eye damage can occur. It's not really any better than finger print in that respect. DNA is FAR more reliable over time... 11 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, “and only an iris scan is reliable over time.”

Umm, no. Eye damage can occur. It’s not really any better than finger print in that respect. DNA is FAR more reliable over time…

]]> By: Patrick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531937 Patrick Sun, 31 May 2009 14:55:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531937 all your smiles are belong to us all your smiles are belong to us

]]> By: bb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531934 bb Sun, 31 May 2009 14:50:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531934 No smiling in the first state. (Delaware) Also, no glasses - my driver's license picture is the only picture of me without glasses taken in the last 50 years. Yeah, I started wearing them early. But I wonder, I am so near-sighted and with a high astigmatism that my eye shape, size, and placement is different when viewed through the glass lenses as opposed to not. Will that invalidate the face recognition? No smiling in the first state. (Delaware) Also, no glasses – my driver’s license picture is the only picture of me without glasses taken in the last 50 years. Yeah, I started wearing them early.

But I wonder, I am so near-sighted and with a high astigmatism that my eye shape, size, and placement is different when viewed through the glass lenses as opposed to not. Will that invalidate the face recognition?

]]> By: dusanmal http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531924 dusanmal Sun, 31 May 2009 14:01:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531924 @#, eaze: "its just a more accurate way of identifying people’s faces. it has nothing to do with civil liberties and should not be clouded with them." Govt. should not collect biometrics data from citizens at the point which citizens can't avoid for normal daily lives: ex. drivers license. Such collection is what makes this civil liberty issue. I don't mind Govt. collecting biometric photos of convicted criminals or of people in charge of extreme security sites/data/... who work for the Govt. But collecting biometrics from my drivers license photo is where it crosses the line from free society to police state. @#, eaze: “its just a more accurate way of identifying people’s faces. it has nothing to do with civil liberties and should not be clouded with them.”

Govt. should not collect biometrics data from citizens at the point which citizens can’t avoid for normal daily lives: ex. drivers license. Such collection is what makes this civil liberty issue. I don’t mind Govt. collecting biometric photos of convicted criminals or of people in charge of extreme security sites/data/… who work for the Govt. But collecting biometrics from my drivers license photo is where it crosses the line from free society to police state.

]]> By: The0ne http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531919 The0ne Sun, 31 May 2009 13:47:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531919 China's involved, I just know it! China’s involved, I just know it!

]]> By: Rupert_Bear http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531917 Rupert_Bear Sun, 31 May 2009 13:23:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531917 #21 Total rubbish. DVLA has nothing to do with vehicle ownership. If you buy a car with finance, the finance company own the car until you've paid up. You cannot give ownership of a car to the DVLA if you don't actually own it yourself. #21 Total rubbish.
DVLA has nothing to do with vehicle ownership. If you buy a car with finance, the finance company own the car until you’ve paid up. You cannot give ownership of a car to the DVLA if you don’t actually own it yourself.

]]> By: Dallas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/30/no-smiling-allowedon-virginia-drivers-license-sez-dmv/comment-page-2/#comment-1531910 Dallas Sun, 31 May 2009 12:33:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=49864#comment-1531910 Cheney as asked to smile in order to get within the dull face range. Cheney as asked to smile in order to get within the dull face range.

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