Former Vice President Dick Cheney reiterated his praise for waterboarding Al Qaeda terrorists on Monday, calling it a “well done” technique that gathered valuable information from unusually bad guys.
“I’m a strong believer in it,” Cheney told a National Press Club audience. “I thought it was well done”….
Notwithstanding Cheney’s enthusiasm, waterboarding was banned by the Bush administration in 2003. President Obama has said waterboarding is torture and repugnant to American values. Cheney remains unconvinced. “I don’t believe that we engaged in torture,” he argued….
He admitted he has zero “tolerance or patience” for second-guessers.
Such a fun guy. No wonder Americans are warming up to him.
Thanks, K B
Actually, who cares? It’s Obama’s turn to keep the US safe…
Soon the left is going to say any form of prison detention is going be torture.
The bleeding hearts should take a refresher course in bonafide torture by reading the posting at The Smoking Gun. (warning NSF) http://bit.ly/392Oyx
faxon said, on June 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
I like the way the Muslim bastard who killed the soldiers at the recruiting center is not really news today.
Or the 500,000 to 1,000,000 (mostly) innocent Iraqis that died due to the US meddling in their country…
Cheney: “There Was Never Any Evidence … Iraq Was Involved In 9/11″ (VIDEO)
http://huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/02/cheney-there-was-never-an_n_210145.html
jbenson2 said, on June 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Soon the left is going to say any form of prison detention is going be torture.
If you’re going to use some completely idiotic, asshole “straw man” argument, let’s see some proof of this mindset… or shut the fuck up.
Idiot.
Now that he’s retired you’d think he would be into surf boarding.
have to agree with 18
further,
the *real* similarities between the two wars is that both were started
under false pretense, Gulf of Tonken
for Vietnam and false/manipulated
intell to justify Iraq. -both documented fact.
Both wars ended up just being a huge
live fire test ground to develop
and sell weapons, plus, open the door
for a corporate(state) resource grab (in the 90′s for vietnam)
i find it amazing that even after
congress and senate intelligence committee officially acknowledged that the intell used to justify the Iraq war was false, let alone highly suspect, nobody, especially the public, seems to care.
imo, it’s because their is too much profit in it, both politically and financially.
imo, there is no winning an unjust war.
how can we win a war that has no defined exit strategy. -Iraq is still fractured (by design, it appears)
correct me if i am wrong, but i have not yet heard of any plans to *officially declare* the war in Iraq, over.
add to that, we are now going to escalate into Afghanistan, a country which in it’s entire history, has never been conquered.
for what? to continue the war on terror? -a conveniently stateless
enemy which can be found anywhere on the globe just by throwing a dart at it.
-for which of course, we have no exit strategy for?
the icing on the cake is that the two
primary actors we have playing the role of “Bogey Man” -Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, were both created and funded by America.
given the mounds of evidence of deception and manipulation concerning the war on terror, and all it’s subsidiaries, one has to ask: how much money is still being funneled to them to keep illusion of terror going.
lord knows the weapons dealers and their backers are making astronomical
amounts of profit on all of this.
at this point, it would be nothing to slip a few billion in arms and cash to the other side(s) to keep the war machine alive.
(did we ever find out what happen to
the $2 trillion dollars the Pentagon
stated it “couldn’t find” on 9/10/2001? (Rumsfeld’s statement)
plenty of payola to go around to be sure.
history shows playing both sides is often standard practice, -esp with backers and weapons dealers.
-heck, we do it all the time.
Cheney has alot of balls opening
his mouth about anything.
It’s becoming very hard to be a proud
American, given outright corruption
at all levels of both, our government
and military.
the whole thing is insane.
-i fear it is all going to blow up
in our faces very soon.
worse still, they can use our own military against us here at home
now.
why would they change the law and
then plan to have 20,000+ troops
state side unless they intended to use them?
completely insane.
-s
Thankyou #26…. proof that not everyone is easily fooled by Fox News and the rest of the show for Sheeple Media…
How do we Fix it?…
Most politician will sell their sole for a Dollar… oh… thats how we got ino this mess..
Cheers Mates…!!
I appreciate one thing about Dick Cheney these days:
he is providing perfect ethical clarity between two divergent moral paths for America.
Until Cheney submits to waterboarding he is not any authority of its value or if it constitutes torture or not.
His opinion is of no value.
Cursor_
I would respect him if he said, “Yes, I admit it’s torture, and awful, and we have used and will use it on occasion to extract information from our particularly stubborn terrorist captives.” A little honesty goes a long way with me.
If Al Gore had shot his mouth off like Cheney is doing the power of the Presidency would have been used to shut him up.Obama looks like a pussy by not responding to this assault on our values.Just one call from Obama could stop this bullshit.STFU Dick!
Rich,
Let me get this straight. If war criminals are just honest about their crimes, they earn your respect?
Greg
>> billabong said,
>> Obama looks like a pussy by not responding to this assault on our values.Just one call from Obama could stop this bullshit.
Obama is playing chess. The GOP is playing bean bag tik-tak-toe.
Obama has sent out generals to speak-against Cheney.
Remember how the GOP demanded that we have to listen to the “generals on the ground”? Well, the generals on the ground say that Cheney is wrong.
“Such a fun guy. No wonder Americans are warming up to him.”
No, mainly it’s just Fox News. And maybe Rush.
He is one angry old dude.
Cheney for President!
Oh shit, he ain’t black
# 6 roastepeanuts said:
“Hey,
at least he’s committed.”
He should be.
#36, 887 1/2,
His heart is.
#27 Said: “…How do we fix it?”
-almost impossible given how
hypnotized the public is.
personally, -a total governmental reset. -ban PC..make it “normal” to insult someone. not a near capital offense.
harsh prison terms for anyone in government found “gaming the system”
absorb The Fed back into the government..
I could go on for a week of what needs
to be undone or put back..
None of it will do any good however, unless we un-brainwash the people and
start teaching kids about our history
and the way “the world works, (and us in it) -in high school, as well as grade school.
-delete the entitlement mindset from
the mind..
-show people how they are being manipulated..
it would take 10-15 years minimum.
20-40 years nominal.
-and that’s only after you can convince them that 90% of the
“basics” that they have been taught is a lie..
you know, stuff like black holes,
gravity is a constant, mathematical physics..(talk about an oxymoron)
the very foundation of “modern” physics&sciences has led us all
astray.. they are no better than faith based religion, imo.
-we were better off with
classical physics.
if the foundation of our beliefs are overall false or packed with half truths, how can we trust anything based on them to be true ?
-alas, i am digressing (as usual)
however, if one digs up the roots of the foundations we currently hold as “true” -one will find that many “facts” are in fact, based on unproven theories..
which leads me to my final observation:
almost everything we have been taught, is based on lies
sold as truisms.
ok, enough of that..end point: dig deep enough, and you will be shocked by what you find.
our Realities, are based on
fantasies. -nuff said??
::whew::
-s
Cheney is not the only one who is still a strong believer…
I’m glad at least one of our politicians isn’t a complete panty-waist.