Comments on: Microsoft Takes Aim at Wii with 3-D Camera http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TektonikShift http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-2/#comment-1668135 TektonikShift Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:52:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1668135 You need two camera's to get good depth perception. Actually, you need 2 sensors coming to image processor, in the image processor you extract the depth 'map' and isolate the subject and game SW does the rest. Not sure if Kinect will be commercially successful, but I think still some patent issues to resolve. The technology is similar to Canesta's. May or may not be an issue. Imaging systems using 2 or more sensors will need license from Argus Microsystems, they have first and fundamental patents related to any digital imaging system using 2 or more sensors. http://twitter.com/camera_tech Tek You need two camera’s to get good depth perception. Actually, you need 2 sensors coming to image processor, in the image processor you extract the depth ‘map’ and isolate the subject and game SW does the rest.

Not sure if Kinect will be commercially successful, but I think still some patent issues to resolve.

The technology is similar to Canesta’s. May or may not be an issue.

Imaging systems using 2 or more sensors will need license from Argus Microsystems, they have first and fundamental patents related to any digital imaging system using 2 or more sensors.
http://twitter.com/camera_tech

Tek

]]> By: jcj7161 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-2/#comment-1533722 jcj7161 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:30:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533722 Ulanoff =douche=ms hack=FUD Ulanoff =douche=ms hack=FUD

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-2/#comment-1533425 amodedoma Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:33:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533425 Yeah right, all of the sudden M$ is an expert in hardware development. Har, har... While the concept is fascinating, the practical developing of a functioning system is far from imminent. I've done some 3d recognition with robots and doing it for navigating is hard as hell and processor intensive. To do 3d motion capture in real time goes way beyond hard as hell and is even more processor intensive. Add to that the challenges of different and changing lighting, and the incredible varieties of shape and style in the human presentation and movement I can come to but one conclusion. This is a gimmick, and it's highly unlikely it'll ever be popular, but what the hell, it might help xbox sales. Yeah right, all of the sudden M$ is an expert in hardware development. Har, har… While the concept is fascinating, the practical developing of a functioning system is far from imminent. I’ve done some 3d recognition with robots and doing it for navigating is hard as hell and processor intensive. To do 3d motion capture in real time goes way beyond hard as hell and is even more processor intensive. Add to that the challenges of different and changing lighting, and the incredible varieties of shape and style in the human presentation and movement I can come to but one conclusion. This is a gimmick, and it’s highly unlikely it’ll ever be popular, but what the hell, it might help xbox sales.

]]> By: Jason http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533388 Jason Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:14:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533388 Well, as I see it, the last time Nintendo had the competition on the ropes, everyone and their dog was coming out with every kind of gimic to take on Nintendo. Well, now Sega makes games FOR Nintendo and Atari and everyone else gave up. The arrogance of Nintendo afterwards is being replayed by Sony in a big way and Microsoft STILL cannot seem to understand that they are only a success in the USA/Canada. These gadgets are just more money sunk into sinking ships/loss leaders that are all loss and no lead. Well, as I see it, the last time Nintendo had the competition on the ropes, everyone and their dog was coming out with every kind of gimic to take on Nintendo. Well, now Sega makes games FOR Nintendo and Atari and everyone else gave up.

The arrogance of Nintendo afterwards is being replayed by Sony in a big way and Microsoft STILL cannot seem to understand that they are only a success in the USA/Canada.

These gadgets are just more money sunk into sinking ships/loss leaders that are all loss and no lead.

]]> By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533347 Uncle Patso Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:19:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533347 ...the camera is able to accurately transform 3-D body movements into onscreen play... "Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?" …the camera is able to accurately transform 3-D body movements into onscreen play…

“Are you thinking what I’m thinking, Pinky?”

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533335 pedro Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:50:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533335 So, like the playstation, has face recognition so the system can tell if you're making a moron face when you play, just like the guy on the pic. Good feature! Maybe they should upload the most moronic & stupi ones on x-box live or even bing, that'll get them some traffic there. #17 The wii controller and the playstation eye. Like mac on everything else, MS is just trying to catch up So, like the playstation, has face recognition so the system can tell if you’re making a moron face when you play, just like the guy on the pic. Good feature! Maybe they should upload the most moronic & stupi ones on x-box live or even bing, that’ll get them some traffic there.

#17 The wii controller and the playstation eye. Like mac on everything else, MS is just trying to catch up

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533289 MikeN Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:17:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533289 This is just a terrible project, Microsoft trying to copy the Wii. They should just declare bankruptcy. This is just a terrible project, Microsoft trying to copy the Wii. They should just declare bankruptcy.

]]> By: R.O.P. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533239 R.O.P. Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:46:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533239 #12, the FBI, the CIA, your local police and the Office of Homeland Security would love to have an internet camera pointed at you. On the plus side, it would encourage people to clean their living/game/basement rooms on a regular basis. #12, the FBI, the CIA, your local police and the Office of Homeland Security would love to have an internet camera pointed at you. On the plus side, it would encourage people to clean their living/game/basement rooms on a regular basis.

]]> By: brm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533226 brm Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:11:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533226 #12: "Who the hell wants an always on internet camera pointed at them in their lounge room." I keep getting emails from hot chicks who like this. #12:

“Who the hell wants an always on internet camera pointed at them in their lounge room.”

I keep getting emails from hot chicks who like this.

]]> By: Randomized http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533224 Randomized Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:10:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533224 That guy kind of looks like Mr. Cooper. That guy kind of looks like Mr. Cooper.

]]> By: Hugh Ripper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533220 Hugh Ripper Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:02:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533220 Who the hell wants an always on internet camera pointed at them in their lounge room. Is 1984 still required reading in schools? Who the hell wants an always on internet camera pointed at them in their lounge room. Is 1984 still required reading in schools?

]]> By: Ghost http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533185 Ghost Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:52:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533185 The camera that they showed off at E3 yesterday has two lens's as well as another thing, possibly IR. The entire unit appears to be as wide as the 360 is tall. And the whole thing is a gray-black color, unlike the rest of the 360 peripherals. The camera that they showed off at E3 yesterday has two lens’s as well as another thing, possibly IR. The entire unit appears to be as wide as the 360 is tall. And the whole thing is a gray-black color, unlike the rest of the 360 peripherals.

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533181 bobbo Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:49:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533181 #8--Jag==thats it. Thanks. #8–Jag==thats it. Thanks.

]]> By: Fat_Anarchy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533175 Fat_Anarchy Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:38:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533175 #7 No, LOL. I've only played a few games on it, and wasn't able to get used to it. I'm sure there probabaly are some things its good at though, and it might be cool once you do get used to it. Given my lack of experience with it though, I probabaly shouldn't be making such comments. It was just a personal observation. I'll keep an eye out for the gun adapter though. Maybe It will change my mind. I don't really play games that often though. #7 No, LOL.

I’ve only played a few games on it, and wasn’t able to get used to it. I’m sure there probabaly are some things its good at though, and it might be cool once you do get used to it.

Given my lack of experience with it though, I probabaly shouldn’t be making such comments. It was just a personal observation. I’ll keep an eye out for the gun adapter though. Maybe It will change my mind. I don’t really play games that often though.

]]> By: Fat_Anarchy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/02/microsoft-takes-aim-at-wii-with-3-d-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1533174 Fat_Anarchy Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:34:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50082#comment-1533174 <span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica; color: #3333FF"><i><b>[Duplicate comment deleted. Please don't double post! - ed.]</b></i></span> [Duplicate comment deleted. Please don't double post! - ed.]

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