Comments on: High School student Tasered for using a cell phone! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:04:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cblank21 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536700 Cblank21 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:34:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536700 Student assaults a police officer and you want the officer to walk away. Have you all forgot what school is like these days. Check out the news every day and you will hear stories about school students assaulting other students will school officials are unable to help. Search Google and will find camera phone and school bus vids of this type of senseless violence. Student assaults a police officer and you want the officer to walk away. Have you all forgot what school is like these days. Check out the news every day and you will hear stories about school students assaulting other students will school officials are unable to help. Search Google and will find camera phone and school bus vids of this type of senseless violence.

]]> By: Rick's Cafe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536470 Rick's Cafe Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:19:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536470 Very apparent by the comments, most of you have not been inside a school since you attend....a lot has changed. Some good changes, some bad. Lots of credit to be shared among teaching staff and administrators. Even more blame to be shared between the employees (teachers, administrators) and the employers (taxpayers), but mostly the employers. Taxpayers who haven't been in a school for 30 years, yet feel fully qualified to tell professionals how to do their job. Taxpayers who look the other way when employees partake in questionable practices (roaming police for hall security)because they won't have to read about school troubles in the paper. What's a child to conclude (or learn) when they find out their parents are pay huge $$ (taxes) to run the school, but never bother to check on the investment. Or worse, pay the taxes in addition to private school's tuition, then ignore the operations of both investments. With this kind of education, it's no wonder no-one knows how to run a successful business anymore. Very apparent by the comments, most of you have not been inside a school since you attend….a lot has changed.

Some good changes, some bad. Lots of credit to be shared among teaching staff and administrators. Even more blame to be shared between the employees (teachers, administrators) and the employers (taxpayers), but mostly the employers. Taxpayers who haven’t been in a school for 30 years, yet feel fully qualified to tell professionals how to do their job. Taxpayers who look the other way when employees partake in questionable practices (roaming police for hall security)because they won’t have to read about school troubles in the paper.

What’s a child to conclude (or learn) when they find out their parents are pay huge $$ (taxes) to run the school, but never bother to check on the investment. Or worse, pay the taxes in addition to private school’s tuition, then ignore the operations of both investments.

With this kind of education, it’s no wonder no-one knows how to run a successful business anymore.

]]> By: Joe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536354 Joe Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:59:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536354 Yet more evidence the USA is becoming a police state. More here: http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html Yet more evidence the USA is becoming a police state.

More here:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536219 deowll Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:05:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536219 Bottom line, somebody posted another lie. The kid did not get tazered for having phone. He got tazered because he decided to get physical. As for #49, you are welcome to deal with these kids. I don't want to. They are dangerous. Bottom line, somebody posted another lie. The kid did not get tazered for having phone. He got tazered because he decided to get physical.

As for #49, you are welcome to deal with these kids. I don’t want to. They are dangerous.

]]> By: Hugh Ripper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536192 Hugh Ripper Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:57:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536192 Tasering kids is NOT going to get them to respect authority. Quite the opposite. Its a lose-lose situation. Tasering kids is NOT going to get them to respect authority. Quite the opposite. Its a lose-lose situation.

]]> By: sigh http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536148 sigh Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:32:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536148 Check your facts guys. The Taser product operates at one of two voltages. The M26 at 5,000 and the X26 at 1,200. 50,000 is the arcing current and doesn't go through your body. And both operate around 0.07 amps. The voltage hardly matters, as long as the amps are low. The newer X26 is pushing 10 times the voltage of your house outlet. Which do you think kills people more, a taser or in-home electric accidents? There's actually no case of a taser being the direct, I repeat, DIRECT cause of death. Subjects who die after having a taser deployed on them die from pre-existing conditions that were exacerbated by the physical effort and would have probably died just the same if one had not been used. In these scenarios, tasers protect the officers from injury because you're dealing with a person who's fighting their own body and pushing past the physical limits. That's why they die. Check your facts guys. The Taser product operates at one of two voltages. The M26 at 5,000 and the X26 at 1,200. 50,000 is the arcing current and doesn’t go through your body. And both operate around 0.07 amps. The voltage hardly matters, as long as the amps are low. The newer X26 is pushing 10 times the voltage of your house outlet. Which do you think kills people more, a taser or in-home electric accidents? There’s actually no case of a taser being the direct, I repeat, DIRECT cause of death. Subjects who die after having a taser deployed on them die from pre-existing conditions that were exacerbated by the physical effort and would have probably died just the same if one had not been used. In these scenarios, tasers protect the officers from injury because you’re dealing with a person who’s fighting their own body and pushing past the physical limits. That’s why they die.

]]> By: grass4 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1536038 grass4 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:29:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1536038 The kid deserved it. He had the opportunity to put the phone away and obey the rules and he didn't. Kids nowadays have no respect for anything. The kid deserved it. He had the opportunity to put the phone away and obey the rules and he didn’t. Kids nowadays have no respect for anything.

]]> By: clancys_daddy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535992 clancys_daddy Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:06:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535992 Hang up the phone. Hang up the phone.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535866 ECA Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:18:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535866 But as I posted. this will make a REASON to make more rules for schools. Its bad enough as it is. Its hard enough as it is. Cellphones have a place. If there was a Problem you could have 100 people calling it in to the proper group, to come QUICKLY. this is 1 student. This is LESS then .01% of the school population. But, it will be blown out of proportion and MORE regulations for schools will be made. For a bunch of TEACHERS this was not a lerned thing to do.. But as I posted.
this will make a REASON to make more rules for schools.
Its bad enough as it is.
Its hard enough as it is.

Cellphones have a place. If there was a Problem you could have 100 people calling it in to the proper group, to come QUICKLY.
this is 1 student. This is LESS then .01% of the school population.
But, it will be blown out of proportion and MORE regulations for schools will be made.

For a bunch of TEACHERS this was not a lerned thing to do..

]]> By: Arkyn1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535836 Arkyn1 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:16:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535836 Thanks ECA, I kind of knew that no one was looking for simple, workable solutions; people these days merely want to choose sides and fight. It's a shame really. There was so much potential in the USA once. That time is long past, it seems. I mourn it. Thanks ECA, I kind of knew that no one was looking for simple, workable solutions; people these days merely want to choose sides and fight. It’s a shame really. There was so much potential in the USA once. That time is long past, it seems. I mourn it.

]]> By: righteous indignation http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535770 righteous indignation Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:56:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535770 1) Cell phone jamming in school, simple matter. 2) As much as I hate cell phones and despise all the idiots walking around with one in their face all the time, it is not a justifiable reason to assult a student... even though I myself would like to tazer most cell phone users. 3) Tazer the parent who buys a cell phone for a child. The reason we end up with juvinile delinquents is quite often the result of parenting. 4) If that was my child, I'd have jumper cables on that cops gonads. Good cops are good, bad cops should be open season. 1) Cell phone jamming in school, simple matter.

2) As much as I hate cell phones and despise all the idiots walking around with one in their face all the time, it is not a justifiable reason to assult a student… even though I myself would like to tazer most cell phone users.

3) Tazer the parent who buys a cell phone for a child. The reason we end up with juvinile delinquents is quite often the result of parenting.

4) If that was my child, I’d have jumper cables on that cops gonads. Good cops are good, bad cops should be open season.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535761 Patrick Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:39:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535761 # 36 Honky Doodle said, "#31, Patrick, would it shock you that numerous other jurisdictions also now have to have armed police patrolling the igh school hallways, Toronto, Ont. Can. included!" So? Just another big city hell hole. # 36 Honky Doodle said, “#31, Patrick, would it shock you that numerous other jurisdictions also now have to have armed police patrolling the igh school hallways, Toronto, Ont. Can. included!”

So? Just another big city hell hole.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-3/#comment-1535745 ECA Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:26:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535745 38, CORRECT... 38,
CORRECT…

]]> By: revere http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-1535743 revere Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:01:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535743 the kid was in the right - guard grabbed him (thats physical aggression) kid pushed him away (thats self defense) legally the guard should be in court on 2 counts of assault - one with a weapon the kid was in the right – guard grabbed him (thats physical aggression) kid pushed him away (thats self defense)
legally the guard should be in court on 2 counts of assault – one with a weapon

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/07/high-school-student-tasered-for-using-a-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-1535671 amodedoma Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:54:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50357#comment-1535671 #25 like hell I will, you love the US? You can have it! Used to be the best place in the world to live. That was a long time ago, before liberals destroyed our traditions, and conservatives corrupted our values. I was a boyscout, voluteer EMT, and navy veteran, now I'm a US resident abroad, in the near future I'll have a Spanish passport, and pass on renewing my US passport. #25 like hell I will, you love the US? You can have it! Used to be the best place in the world to live. That was a long time ago, before liberals destroyed our traditions, and conservatives corrupted our values. I was a boyscout, voluteer EMT, and navy veteran, now I’m a US resident abroad, in the near future I’ll have a Spanish passport, and pass on renewing my US passport.

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