Honestly the plan costs for AT&T side depends on what you need. My total bill (after tax, before discounts) is rarely more than $100. I have a cheaper voice plan and I rarely use my minutes (helps most of my friends/family are on AT&T =). I don’t do a lot of text messaging so I opted out of the text messaging plan (I may send/receive 10 messages a month).
So my cost is more inline with the Sprint/Palm Pre then the one marked as AT&T.
I know they have to make a simple chart, but wonder how many people are like me.
The problem I’ve had with Cingular is it’s an outrageous amount to add internet &/or text to a plan. While all the Sprint plans for the Pre have free unlimited net & text. While the price points if for how many minutes you want.
To bad you can’t due a Pre on a Sero plan, then the Pre would just trounce the comp.
My wife and I oay $112a month TOTAL for our phone service. ther is NOW WAY we would EVER pay $150 a month for just 1 phone with the same capabilities at $112.
I have an iphone 3g, and a Nokia E61i, and a Motorola Q, and only one account and one sim. The company pays the account and it’s brutal in international roaming (without even making any calls or running any apps–the os is a browser, remember and foreign data plan is two cents per kilobyte)
The iphone is a compelling software platform, with a mighty flood of great apps. It works very well as a phone, until it doesn’t work. Then it’s a bleeding nightmare.
I don’t think this is an apple problem, or an AT&T problem. I think it’s the problem of having a computer emulate a telephone. All smart phones do that.
I have 2 phones (and iPhone and a regular phone for the wife) on an AT&T plan and 7500 shared minutes and UL data and messaging for the iPhone and my bill is $118/month with all the taxes. Add the $199 I paid for the phone and that comes up to $2359/year + sales tax on the phone.
If you need unlimited texting on a smart phone you are doing something wrong. G1, unlimited data, 250 min. unlimited nights, weekends for 61$ a month, taxes, fees included. 32GB micro sd can be found for about 20 bucks. FTW. Plus the phone is 97$ on amazon right now.
Many there have pointed out that these numbers are over simplified. These phones have much better rates when other things are taken into account. With my Android G1 I qualified for the Tmobile loyalty plan so my unlimited voice is only $49.99 not $99.99 saving $50 a month means the TCO to me is $2040 making it the cheapest by far.
I’m using a Samsung Omnia – after returning a Blackberry Storm…. The Storm is a “touchscreen only” sort of thing and my fingers were just too big. The Omnia pretty much demands a built-in stylus, but comes with a little lipstick-ish thing that hangs off the side. Very high PITA factor without any stylus, but you can find ‘em easily enough with pocket clips. The best is a Cross refill for an old Cross pen….
The kid’s got a similar candy bar phone with pop-out keyboards (I can’t figure out how to make it dial ), and the whole mess – unlimited data and something like 750 minutes – is just a shade under $200/month. (I did pay about $400 for the phones initially.)
The Omnia’s a half-decent phone, but the engineers apparently never actually used it. Many features don’t work as described in the manual, the USB cable really doesn’t charge the phone when connected to a PC (although setting up sync with Outlook is easy enough), and a sort of anti-cheek-dialing feature makes things like “Press 1 for English” frustrating, as you have to click the “mouse” (which is itself useless), then (sometimes) click “keypad”, before you can press the “1″…. And you have to do that QUICKLY or start again….
Other functions suffer from inconsistencies – things work somewhat differently in different places in the phone’s system. Kind of like having to turn your automobile’s key to the right to start the car if you locked the doors first, but to the left if the glovebox was opened…. (Impossible to explain this one .)
Which ever one goes “Pay as You Go” first (maybe).
My current cost is less then $10 a month.
Currently I have a Nokia, which I bought used ($60), put in my sim card and added a 1gb micro SD card, takes a 1mb photo. Bought a PC cable to down load photos (works with Vista and Win7.
I’m happy with it
Honestly, I don’t want any of them. The only reason I’ve been thinking of getting a smartphone is because I want to replace my old Palmpilot and that’s the only way to do it these days. I hate it, I’d much rather have a stand-alone device, but they don’t make them. I’d lean toward the Pre, but it’s a Sprint-exclusive and Sprint sucks. I’m very happy with T-Mobile and would like to stay with them, but only if I don’t have to pay through the nose for services I don’t use, which is what you have to do with all the smartphones. I don’t text, I never access the net from my phone, I don’t read e-mail, download movies, listen to music or anything else, in fact, I can guarantee I will never do any of those things, I just need a portable database to carry around where a laptop is too bulky to take along.
You American people are following Apple and Blackberry blindly. May I suggest you Nokia E71 or Nokia E75? Or if youre a multimedia freak then Nokia E97?
If youre into high quality photography and a nice cell phone then how about Nokia N86?
I was thinking Pre too. But its not GSM yet, and I like to pretend I’m a world traveler. That being said, check out the HTC Magic (G2). Like I said prior, I was extremely impressed with the whole package.
Honestly the plan costs for AT&T side depends on what you need. My total bill (after tax, before discounts) is rarely more than $100. I have a cheaper voice plan and I rarely use my minutes (helps most of my friends/family are on AT&T =). I don’t do a lot of text messaging so I opted out of the text messaging plan (I may send/receive 10 messages a month).
So my cost is more inline with the Sprint/Palm Pre then the one marked as AT&T.
I know they have to make a simple chart, but wonder how many people are like me.
The problem I’ve had with Cingular is it’s an outrageous amount to add internet &/or text to a plan. While all the Sprint plans for the Pre have free unlimited net & text. While the price points if for how many minutes you want.
To bad you can’t due a Pre on a Sero plan, then the Pre would just trounce the comp.
My wife and I oay $112a month TOTAL for our phone service. ther is NOW WAY we would EVER pay $150 a month for just 1 phone with the same capabilities at $112.
You AT&T Iphone users are the SUCKERS.
I have an iphone 3g, and a Nokia E61i, and a Motorola Q, and only one account and one sim. The company pays the account and it’s brutal in international roaming (without even making any calls or running any apps–the os is a browser, remember and foreign data plan is two cents per kilobyte)
The iphone is a compelling software platform, with a mighty flood of great apps. It works very well as a phone, until it doesn’t work. Then it’s a bleeding nightmare.
I don’t think this is an apple problem, or an AT&T problem. I think it’s the problem of having a computer emulate a telephone. All smart phones do that.
I have 2 phones (and iPhone and a regular phone for the wife) on an AT&T plan and 7500 shared minutes and UL data and messaging for the iPhone and my bill is $118/month with all the taxes. Add the $199 I paid for the phone and that comes up to $2359/year + sales tax on the phone.
If you need unlimited texting on a smart phone you are doing something wrong. G1, unlimited data, 250 min. unlimited nights, weekends for 61$ a month, taxes, fees included. 32GB micro sd can be found for about 20 bucks. FTW. Plus the phone is 97$ on amazon right now.
The Pre looks pretty cool, although I’m happy with my iPhone 3G.
I have to use AT&T to get service at my house, so my options are limited anyway.
This came from http://billshrink.com/blog/iphone-versus-palm-pre-versus-android/
Many there have pointed out that these numbers are over simplified. These phones have much better rates when other things are taken into account. With my Android G1 I qualified for the Tmobile loyalty plan so my unlimited voice is only $49.99 not $99.99 saving $50 a month means the TCO to me is $2040 making it the cheapest by far.
I’m using a Samsung Omnia – after returning a Blackberry Storm…. The Storm is a “touchscreen only” sort of thing and my fingers were just too big. The Omnia pretty much demands a built-in stylus, but comes with a little lipstick-ish thing that hangs off the side. Very high PITA factor without any stylus, but you can find ‘em easily enough with pocket clips. The best is a Cross refill for an old Cross pen….
The kid’s got a similar candy bar phone with pop-out keyboards (I can’t figure out how to make it dial
), and the whole mess – unlimited data and something like 750 minutes – is just a shade under $200/month. (I did pay about $400 for the phones initially.)
The Omnia’s a half-decent phone, but the engineers apparently never actually used it. Many features don’t work as described in the manual, the USB cable really doesn’t charge the phone when connected to a PC (although setting up sync with Outlook is easy enough), and a sort of anti-cheek-dialing feature makes things like “Press 1 for English” frustrating, as you have to click the “mouse” (which is itself useless), then (sometimes) click “keypad”, before you can press the “1″…. And you have to do that QUICKLY or start again….
Other functions suffer from inconsistencies – things work somewhat differently in different places in the phone’s system. Kind of like having to turn your automobile’s key to the right to start the car if you locked the doors first, but to the left if the glovebox was opened…. (Impossible to explain this one
.)
Something else next time….
Which ever one goes “Pay as You Go” first (maybe).
My current cost is less then $10 a month.
Currently I have a Nokia, which I bought used ($60), put in my sim card and added a 1gb micro SD card, takes a 1mb photo. Bought a PC cable to down load photos (works with Vista and Win7.
I’m happy with it
Technically speaking, all three are unremarkable.
I’ve been looking for a good comparison like this. I’m leaning Pre at the moment.
Me as well. I didn’t think anyone really used the phone part anymore, aside from SMS. Unlimited voice plans are really un needed.
Honestly, I don’t want any of them. The only reason I’ve been thinking of getting a smartphone is because I want to replace my old Palmpilot and that’s the only way to do it these days. I hate it, I’d much rather have a stand-alone device, but they don’t make them. I’d lean toward the Pre, but it’s a Sprint-exclusive and Sprint sucks. I’m very happy with T-Mobile and would like to stay with them, but only if I don’t have to pay through the nose for services I don’t use, which is what you have to do with all the smartphones. I don’t text, I never access the net from my phone, I don’t read e-mail, download movies, listen to music or anything else, in fact, I can guarantee I will never do any of those things, I just need a portable database to carry around where a laptop is too bulky to take along.
Why is that so goddamn hard?
Cephus — Completely agree. But what’s wrong with your Palm? I still use my T|X. It does everything I need for 0$ a month, including email.
Nokia 97, 32GB internal and SD card, plus 5 meg camera.
Mike
NO SMART Phone for me until they I can activate one without rip off DATA Plan!
Business will pay a tons of $$$ for data plans but for consumer its not worth it.
You American people are following Apple and Blackberry blindly. May I suggest you Nokia E71 or Nokia E75? Or if youre a multimedia freak then Nokia E97?
If youre into high quality photography and a nice cell phone then how about Nokia N86?
Lots of choices out there….
30,
I was thinking Pre too. But its not GSM yet, and I like to pretend I’m a world traveler. That being said, check out the HTC Magic (G2). Like I said prior, I was extremely impressed with the whole package.
NONE..
What I would like to know, in this international forum…
IS the basic costs in your areas for Cellphone plans..