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	<title>Comments on: Cost of Owning An iPhone, Palm Pre, Android Compared</title>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 HTC Touch Pro 2. That&#039;s the ticket.
 
#38 You forgot &quot;death to America&quot; yet again.
 
#52 Well, they should seriously have a look at the HTC Touch Pro 2...oh, wait! Not available in the US. Sorry you have to get put up with mac &amp; its oy!Phone instead.
 
#58 Check the phone I&#039;m referring to. I&#039;ve stuck with my ipaq 6315 for the same reasons as you until this baby came up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 HTC Touch Pro 2. That&#8217;s the ticket.<br />
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#38 You forgot &#8220;death to America&#8221; yet again.<br />
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#52 Well, they should seriously have a look at the HTC Touch Pro 2&#8230;oh, wait! Not available in the US. Sorry you have to get put up with mac &amp; its oy!Phone instead.<br />
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#58 Check the phone I&#8217;m referring to. I&#8217;ve stuck with my ipaq 6315 for the same reasons as you until this baby came up</p>
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		<title>By: ThisSucks</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/11/cost-of-owning-an-iphone-palm-pre-android-compared/comment-page-2/#comment-1538479</link>
		<dc:creator>ThisSucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stick to my 2 years old TyTN II, thank you.
None of the above can do half, and iPhone without cut/paste is the worst all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stick to my 2 years old TyTN II, thank you.<br />
None of the above can do half, and iPhone without cut/paste is the worst all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem ?I see with itunes/Iphone and the rest is dealing with APPLE and itunes.
 
They have messed up itunes before and screwed up alot of ipods.  esp the shuffle.
Insted of dealing with JUST the phone seller, you are dealing witht he phone dealer, the Phone corp(ATT, or whom ever) then with Apple then with itunes.  ANY of which could say GOODBYE and you have a brick.  Any of these could mess up or quit working, and you are STUCK.  You are already dealing with 2 versions of the hardware, as well as 3 major patches..  And if you dont have itunes you arent SUPPOSED to have other &quot;un-apple-registered&quot; programs or music on the device.
APPLE has the right to ERASE any music or programs off your iphone/ipod device it deems NOT to back or is illegal.  READ the EULA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem ?I see with itunes/Iphone and the rest is dealing with APPLE and itunes.<br />
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They have messed up itunes before and screwed up alot of ipods.  esp the shuffle.<br />
Insted of dealing with JUST the phone seller, you are dealing witht he phone dealer, the Phone corp(ATT, or whom ever) then with Apple then with itunes.  ANY of which could say GOODBYE and you have a brick.  Any of these could mess up or quit working, and you are STUCK.  You are already dealing with 2 versions of the hardware, as well as 3 major patches..  And if you dont have itunes you arent SUPPOSED to have other &#8220;un-apple-registered&#8221; programs or music on the device.<br />
APPLE has the right to ERASE any music or programs off your iphone/ipod device it deems NOT to back or is illegal.  READ the EULA.</p>
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		<title>By: orangetiki</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/11/cost-of-owning-an-iphone-palm-pre-android-compared/comment-page-2/#comment-1538270</link>
		<dc:creator>orangetiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly the only thing that , to me, makes one look like a better deal then the other is the carrier&#039;s plans. Obviously the sprint looks the cheapest because they have a complete package plan when AT&amp;T forces you to peacemeal everything. I&#039;m an iPhone user and I am happy that I am. I sure as heck don&#039;t have the unlimited text and minute plan. I get 500 minutes a month with 200 text, and I pay 80. The best deal will always be the one where you buy only what you need..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly the only thing that , to me, makes one look like a better deal then the other is the carrier&#8217;s plans. Obviously the sprint looks the cheapest because they have a complete package plan when AT&amp;T forces you to peacemeal everything. I&#8217;m an iPhone user and I am happy that I am. I sure as heck don&#8217;t have the unlimited text and minute plan. I get 500 minutes a month with 200 text, and I pay 80. The best deal will always be the one where you buy only what you need..</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/11/cost-of-owning-an-iphone-palm-pre-android-compared/comment-page-2/#comment-1538110</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insted of the 5-10 times cost of building the unit..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insted of the 5-10 times cost of building the unit..</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/11/cost-of-owning-an-iphone-palm-pre-android-compared/comment-page-2/#comment-1538109</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder which would be BEST PRICED, if they were sold at 2 times Manufactured price.
Also arnt they on the Ver.2-3 hardware on the iphone??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder which would be BEST PRICED, if they were sold at 2 times Manufactured price.<br />
Also arnt they on the Ver.2-3 hardware on the iphone??</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cost of owning &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-i68.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;a Sciphone&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:

Phone $100
8 GB card $20
Prepaid 1000 minutes, $100 x 3 times/year = $300 x 2 years = $600
Total $720. 

PS: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;David Lynch says&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost of owning <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-i68.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>a Sciphone</u></a>:</p>
<p>Phone $100<br />
8 GB card $20<br />
Prepaid 1000 minutes, $100 x 3 times/year = $300 x 2 years = $600<br />
Total $720. </p>
<p>PS: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>David Lynch says</u></a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50: Because these are the three big boys that everyone is writing about.  Everything else is... everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50: Because these are the three big boys that everyone is writing about.  Everything else is&#8230; everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteyMcBrown</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/11/cost-of-owning-an-iphone-palm-pre-android-compared/comment-page-2/#comment-1538081</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteyMcBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, the iPhone is at 32GB and all music stores/app stores are not equal. I&#039;m a huge iPhone fan, though.... 2nd place goes to Palm Pre. The Google phone is underwhelming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, the iPhone is at 32GB and all music stores/app stores are not equal. I&#8217;m a huge iPhone fan, though&#8230;. 2nd place goes to Palm Pre. The Google phone is underwhelming.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they compare the G1 with the not-even-released iPhone 3gs, when they could&#039;ve used the HTC Magic instead. I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do they compare the G1 with the not-even-released iPhone 3gs, when they could&#8217;ve used the HTC Magic instead. I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B- b- b- but what if I don&#039;t let Sprint&#039;s cheap everything unlimited plan define my needs? I have an iPhone and so does my wife, and the whole cost for the both of us is less than the monthly cost quoted here. 

And as of the last bill, I still have over 7,000 rollover minutes.

And besides, where am I going to find a crowd of friends who will stink with envy when I show up sporting my new Pre and both of its killer aps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B- b- b- but what if I don&#8217;t let Sprint&#8217;s cheap everything unlimited plan define my needs? I have an iPhone and so does my wife, and the whole cost for the both of us is less than the monthly cost quoted here. </p>
<p>And as of the last bill, I still have over 7,000 rollover minutes.</p>
<p>And besides, where am I going to find a crowd of friends who will stink with envy when I show up sporting my new Pre and both of its killer aps?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pay $6.66 a month for my cell phone.

Smart phone?  No.  Smart customer?  Yes.

The only thing that makes something a phone is that it can make phone calls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pay $6.66 a month for my cell phone.</p>
<p>Smart phone?  No.  Smart customer?  Yes.</p>
<p>The only thing that makes something a phone is that it can make phone calls!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best deal for me was to unlock an iPhone and put it on TMobile.

My wife wanted an iPhone more for fashion than anything.  She didn&#039;t talk much on the phone she had, and wasn&#039;t going to use the web-enabled apps that often.

We were already on a TMobile family plan for $49.95/mo for two phones.  I found a 16GB 2G iPhone on Ebay for $330.  Jailbreaking and unlocking were free.  I added a 100Mb/mo data plan for $9.99, and everything works except for visual voicemail.

So, my costs over 24 months are:

$330   iPhone
$600   1/2 of family Voice Plan (500min/mo)
$240   data plan (100Mb/mo)

$1170  Total.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best deal for me was to unlock an iPhone and put it on TMobile.</p>
<p>My wife wanted an iPhone more for fashion than anything.  She didn&#8217;t talk much on the phone she had, and wasn&#8217;t going to use the web-enabled apps that often.</p>
<p>We were already on a TMobile family plan for $49.95/mo for two phones.  I found a 16GB 2G iPhone on Ebay for $330.  Jailbreaking and unlocking were free.  I added a 100Mb/mo data plan for $9.99, and everything works except for visual voicemail.</p>
<p>So, my costs over 24 months are:</p>
<p>$330   iPhone<br />
$600   1/2 of family Voice Plan (500min/mo)<br />
$240   data plan (100Mb/mo)</p>
<p>$1170  Total.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love one but the monthly fees are just way too high. Especially since I hardly make a phone call...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love one but the monthly fees are just way too high. Especially since I hardly make a phone call&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zokor:  I looked at all of the phones you mentioned, none of them would work for me.  They&#039;ve got a ton of bells and whistles I don&#039;t want and none of the things I do.  The Nokia E97 doesn&#039;t appear on the Nokia website at all, I was looking for actual tech specs and all I could find online was a bunch of ridiculous fapping over how it looks.

Like I said, the Pre, if they can fix it and if I can get an unlocked one to use on T-Mobile at a decent price, might be the best way to go, Palm has already announced that they&#039;d be doing an emulator that will run all of the software I&#039;ve already got and really don&#039;t want to have to re-write all of my databases that I just got working right again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zokor:  I looked at all of the phones you mentioned, none of them would work for me.  They&#8217;ve got a ton of bells and whistles I don&#8217;t want and none of the things I do.  The Nokia E97 doesn&#8217;t appear on the Nokia website at all, I was looking for actual tech specs and all I could find online was a bunch of ridiculous fapping over how it looks.</p>
<p>Like I said, the Pre, if they can fix it and if I can get an unlocked one to use on T-Mobile at a decent price, might be the best way to go, Palm has already announced that they&#8217;d be doing an emulator that will run all of the software I&#8217;ve already got and really don&#8217;t want to have to re-write all of my databases that I just got working right again.</p>
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