Comments on: Classified: Government Will No Longer Share Incoming Meteor Data with Scientists http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:13:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jake http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1545208 Jake Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:58:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1545208 I don't know what the answer is, but I love all of the theories. Keep them coming I don’t know what the answer is, but I love all of the theories. Keep them coming

]]> By: 9email9 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1545118 9email9 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:14:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1545118 antivirus software antivirus software

]]> By: AaronB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538950 AaronB Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:32:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538950 #19 - faxon, your an unamerican traitor, and should just go back to whatever commie loving country that spawned you. America, love it or leave it. #19 – faxon, your an unamerican traitor, and should just go back to whatever commie loving country that spawned you.
America, love it or leave it.

]]> By: Winston http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538840 Winston Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:53:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538840 This has to do with the black world program to use the smaller Near Earth Objects as weapons. As the ability to detect sizes below those which would cause international problems evolve, so too does the feasibility of using those smaller objects as weapons. Low radar and infrared signature (stealth) probes would be sent to the selected asteroid to slowly nudge it into an impact trajectory with an enemy target, let's say an underground U235 enrichment facility in, oh, I don't know, Iran. The impact would be an "oops" event that would seem to be an act of "god." The classification of meteor data is simply an attempt to hide their practice shots. Or not... ;-) This has to do with the black world program to use the smaller Near Earth Objects as weapons. As the ability to detect sizes below those which would cause international problems evolve, so too does the feasibility of using those smaller objects as weapons. Low radar and infrared signature (stealth) probes would be sent to the selected asteroid to slowly nudge it into an impact trajectory with an enemy target, let’s say an underground U235 enrichment facility in, oh, I don’t know, Iran. The impact would be an “oops” event that would seem to be an act of “god.” The classification of meteor data is simply an attempt to hide their practice shots.

Or not… ;-)

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538806 soundwash Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:28:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538806 #29 - not in the least. -this would be standard briefing for NASA Astronauts. ..just in recent history.. think about it..we have simple, overwhelming photographic evidence of UFO's during WWII -known as Foo Fighters to the bomber squadrons and fighter/fighter support squadrons in the Pacific and European theaters. -we have Roswell in 1947..at first admitted by the air force, then suddenly, it turned into a weather balloon. or even better, The Battle of LA (1942) we've had UFO's visiting us for a very long time. - In NASA, especially the past 5-7 years or so, quite a few former shuttle and apollo pilots (not to mention many ex-military) have gone record about encounters, the cover ups, aliens that look just like us. the amount of very well known, (and decorated) educated, engineers, pilots, and physicists that have been going record lately is astounding. while some *may be* PsyOp types with planted stories, the most common thread amongst all of them indicate that this has been going for a very long time. so given that constant, once your in a position (in NASA) such that your job detail means you will be exposed to lets say, "unexplainable data" in the near future, it would be naturally prudent that you be briefed on it so you don't freeze or spit your coffee on the console during a crucial moment. given the regularity at which UFO's show up in STS Mission footage, no doubt this is nothing new. -hence no shitting of the pants required. though i'm sure it's un-nerving regardless of how many times you may have seen a UFO wandering around your shuttle. seriously, think about it. it's a non-issue if your in the industry. for, me..i'm easy..i just hope i get to go for ride around at least the solar system, if not the galaxy, before i die. -s #29 – not in the least. -this would be standard briefing for NASA Astronauts.

..just in recent history..

think about it..we have simple, overwhelming photographic evidence of UFO’s during WWII -known as Foo Fighters to the bomber squadrons and fighter/fighter support squadrons in the Pacific and European theaters.

-we have Roswell in 1947..at first admitted by the air force, then suddenly, it turned into a weather balloon.

or even better, The Battle of LA (1942)

we’ve had UFO’s visiting us for a very long time.

- In NASA, especially the past 5-7 years or so, quite a few former shuttle and apollo pilots (not to mention many ex-military) have gone record about encounters, the cover ups, aliens that look just like us.

the amount of very well known, (and decorated) educated, engineers, pilots, and physicists that have been going record lately is astounding.

while some *may be* PsyOp types with planted stories, the most common thread amongst all of them indicate that this has been going for a very long time.

so given that constant, once your in a position (in NASA) such that your job detail means you will be exposed to lets say, “unexplainable data” in the near future, it would be naturally prudent that you be briefed on it so you don’t freeze or spit your coffee on the
console during a crucial moment.

given the regularity at which UFO’s show up in STS Mission footage, no doubt this is nothing new. -hence no shitting of the pants required. though i’m sure it’s un-nerving regardless of how many times you may have seen a UFO wandering around your shuttle.

seriously, think about it. it’s a non-issue if your in the industry.

for, me..i’m easy..i just hope i get to go for ride around at least the solar system, if not the galaxy, before i die.

-s

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538732 Jägermeister Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:50:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538732 #28 - soundwash Seriously... if these were giant UFOs... wouldn't the astronauts have shit their pants? #28 – soundwash

Seriously… if these were giant UFOs… wouldn’t the astronauts have shit their pants?

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538730 soundwash Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:38:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538730 #21 - have no interest in green men or martians. just seeing some interesting patterns emerge over the past few months. #22 - yes yes, i am aware of that tired yet convenient explanation. i've even managed to reproduce a similar effect first hand on some older equipment when i was exploring the claim. that explanation rates right up there with "those are just ice crystals - case closed" however... in the sts-75 vid, -what is producing your "shadow"? -i don't think they are using flash for video. These "nearby dust motes" are most all passing behind the tether which is tens of kilometers away and itself, some 12 miles long. the effect you speak of obviously exists, but does not explain with 100% certainty as to what is going here. ever watch sts-48, 80, 115, 118 or or, practically all of 'em? they all have "artifacts" (happy?) -that go beyond what you would call "dust behavour" i have also found similar shaped objects in night shots of the moon, -that i take often. (no flash obviously) oddly, i only discovered them after raising the gamma on the pics. cant see 'em otherwise. -and they have a reflection on the water below..pretty cool dust motes, ya? -lastly..i've never had a problem accepting there may be life other than us out there. last summer while wandering along the river by the throggs neck bridge, i ran across a few folks "star gazing" with starlight goggles and a modified mirror telescope. do yourself a favour, get some or find someone with the gear and spend a night or two looking in the sky. once you see all the "crap" flying around in the night sky in the infrared, you'll have a whole new view and respect for the world at large. to really bring it home, look with one eye naked and the other in the scope at the same time. it will force you to take another look at sciences you were taught. tbh, it took me a week or so to accept the ramifications.. -and trust me..it's not dust motes flying around either. -s #21 – have no interest in green men or martians. just seeing some interesting patterns emerge over the past few months.

#22 – yes yes, i am aware of that tired yet convenient explanation. i’ve even managed to reproduce a similar effect first hand on some older equipment
when i was exploring the claim. that explanation rates right up there with “those are just ice crystals – case closed”

however… in the sts-75 vid, -what is producing your “shadow”? -i don’t think they are using flash for video. These “nearby dust motes” are most all passing behind the tether which is tens of kilometers away and itself, some 12 miles long.

the effect you speak of obviously exists, but does not explain with 100% certainty as to what is going here.

ever watch sts-48, 80, 115, 118 or or, practically all of ‘em? they all have “artifacts” (happy?) -that go beyond what you would call “dust behavour”

i have also found similar shaped objects in night shots of the moon, -that i take often. (no flash obviously)

oddly, i only discovered them after raising the gamma on the pics. cant see ‘em otherwise. -and they have a reflection on the water below..pretty cool dust motes, ya?

-lastly..i’ve never had a problem accepting there may be life other than us out there.

last summer while wandering along the river by the throggs neck bridge, i ran across a few folks “star gazing” with starlight goggles and a modified mirror telescope.

do yourself a favour, get some or find someone with the gear and spend a night or two looking in the sky.

once you see all the “crap” flying around in the night sky in the infrared, you’ll have a whole new view and respect for the world at large.

to really bring it home, look with one eye naked and the other in the scope at the same time.

it will force you to take another look at sciences you were taught. tbh, it took me a week or so to accept the ramifications..

-and trust me..it’s not dust motes flying around either.

-s

]]> By: Breetai http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538678 Breetai Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:11:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538678 Monkey's paw all over again.  Careful what you Wish for....  Change Change Change Monkey’s paw all over again.  Careful what you Wish for….  Change Change Change

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538664 ECA Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:51:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538664 I think its because these devices are LOW tech.  And how many have been hacked over the years.. I think its because these devices are LOW tech.  And how many have been hacked over the years..

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538647 Jägermeister Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538647 #24 - Uncle Patso - <i>...be useful to someone who wants to set off a nuclear test to know when the nuclear explosion sensing satellites are in view and when they are not…</i> Nuclear tests are revealed by seismologic stations. #24 – Uncle Patso – …be useful to someone who wants to set off a nuclear test to know when the nuclear explosion sensing satellites are in view and when they are not…

Nuclear tests are revealed by seismologic stations.

]]> By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538621 Uncle Patso Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:05:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538621 This could well be a matter of fearing that people could figure out the orbits of the satellites used. If there are not enough to cover all the locations of interest all the time, it might be useful to someone who wants to set off a nuclear test to know when the nuclear explosion sensing satellites are in view and when they are not... This could well be a matter of fearing that people could figure out the orbits of the satellites used. If there are not enough to cover all the locations of interest all the time, it might be useful to someone who wants to set off a nuclear test to know when the nuclear explosion sensing satellites are in view and when they are not…

]]> By: gmknobl http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538620 gmknobl Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:05:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538620 I doubt this has anything to do with Obama and more to do with the surviving neocon types left in the military.  Really, all military promotions done over the last 8 years should be reviewed, along with demotions and retirements with an eye toward reversing everyone of those decisions since Shrub and co. tried their very best to corrupt the military any way they could.  This is just one of the side effects.   Another issue along these lines is the ultra-conservative religious stuff pushed on many of the new officers and rank and file recruits into the military.  It's not only illegal but truly a violation of the constitution that this continues to go on anyway.  The only way I see to get rid of it is to review and renig on as many of the decisions that were made since Shrub took over (notice I do not say won) back in 2000.  of course, this won't be easy but it is necessary. I doubt this has anything to do with Obama and more to do with the surviving neocon types left in the military.  Really, all military promotions done over the last 8 years should be reviewed, along with demotions and retirements with an eye toward reversing everyone of those decisions since Shrub and co. tried their very best to corrupt the military any way they could.  This is just one of the side effects.
 
Another issue along these lines is the ultra-conservative religious stuff pushed on many of the new officers and rank and file recruits into the military.  It’s not only illegal but truly a violation of the constitution that this continues to go on anyway.  The only way I see to get rid of it is to review and renig on as many of the decisions that were made since Shrub took over (notice I do not say won) back in 2000.  of course, this won’t be easy but it is necessary.

]]> By: Buzz http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538615 Buzz Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:50:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538615 The "appearing/disappearing" dots of light are small particles drifting out of the shadow of the spacecraft, or back into it. As the lens zooms tele, many of these UFOs blur out into discs--exactly what you get when nearby dust motes show as circles in flash shots. Want to shoot some yourself? Zoom your pocket camera wide and shoot a night picture of the sky with flash. Then pound a pillow near the camera (still air needed for this) and shoot a second shot. Whu... whut are them UFO circles, Mr. Science? Well Bobby, let's just say they ain't Martians. The “appearing/disappearing” dots of light are small particles drifting out of the shadow of the spacecraft, or back into it.

As the lens zooms tele, many of these UFOs blur out into discs–exactly what you get when nearby dust motes show as circles in flash shots.

Want to shoot some yourself? Zoom your pocket camera wide and shoot a night picture of the sky with flash. Then pound a pillow near the camera (still air needed for this) and shoot a second shot.

Whu… whut are them UFO circles, Mr. Science?

Well Bobby, let’s just say they ain’t Martians.

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-2/#comment-1538596 Jägermeister Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:05:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538596 #20 - soundwash This is yet another one of these "Little green men on Mars" and "Mars face" theories. #20 – soundwash

This is yet another one of these “Little green men on Mars” and “Mars face” theories.

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/12/classified-government-will-no-longer-share-incoming-meteor-data-with-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-1538459 soundwash Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:38:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=50750#comment-1538459 #14 jagermeister - :D to bring a little more relevance to my previous post. here are some google video search results for the last shuttle mission (STS-125) and  STS-75 STS-75 (1996) is by far, the most astounding vid of UFO's on "official tape" "The Tether Incident" it's quite an eye opener. (for reference, the tether is 12 miles long - this will give you an idea how huge these disks are. (estimates are 1.5+ miles in diameter) It's about 6 minutes of UFO's teaming in around the tether. i've TinyUrl'd the good versions of STS 48 & 75. STS-125 has many different vids spanning the week long hubble repair mission. best to browse through 'em STS-75 <a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/STS-75" rel="nofollow"><u>analytical vid</u></a> (dailymotion.com) STS-75 - original - showing <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I" rel="nofollow"><u>tether breaking</u></a>. w/ground control chatter Google STS-125  <a href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sts-125%2Bufo#" rel="nofollow"><u>Vid search results</u></a> #14 jagermeister – :D

to bring a little more relevance to my previous post.

here are some google video search results for the last shuttle mission (STS-125) and  STS-75

STS-75 (1996) is by far, the most astounding vid of UFO’s on “official tape”

“The Tether Incident” it’s quite an eye opener. (for reference, the tether is 12 miles long – this will give you an idea how huge these disks are. (estimates are 1.5+ miles in diameter)

It’s about 6 minutes of UFO’s teaming in around the tether.

i’ve TinyUrl’d the good versions of STS 48 & 75.

STS-125 has many different vids spanning the week long hubble repair mission. best to browse through ‘em

STS-75 analytical vid (dailymotion.com)
STS-75 – original – showing tether breaking. w/ground control chatter
Google STS-125  Vid search results

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