This guy delves into a number of areas from the economy to foreign policy and comes to the conclusion that… Have to read the article to find out.
Picture, if you will, an America apparently like our own. A country like ours bogged down in war on two fronts and suffering from the greatest economic slump since the Great Depression of the 1930s. An America indistinguishable from ours in every respect except that when you turn on the nightly news you see the face of President John Sidney McCain …
OK, Rod Serling as host of “The Twilight Zone” probably would have said it better. But seriously — where would we be in the summer of 2009, if in last November’s election John McCain rather than Barack Obama had been elected president of the United States?
“No difference!” would be the answer of those alienated populists and leftists for whom Republicans and Democrats are merely different tentacles of the same Bilderberger or Trilateral Commission octopus. Certainly from the perspectives of socialists or libertarians — or fascists or Islamic theocrats — the consensus shared by America’s two parties seems much greater than their differences. But from the vantage point of mainstream American politics, the differences between the Obama administration and a hypothetical McCain administration would have been real and can be vividly illustrated by counterfactual history.
After reading his conclusions, what do you think our world would be like today, June 16, 2009?
#96, Bush was appointed the first term and stole the election the second term. Both times he had a minority of votes. Obama won a majority of votes outright and legally.
I’m going to use your words, perhaps not verbatim:
If the government does these things, how can you say they aren’t legal? You should just accept what the government said and get on with your life.
Hypocrite.
If McCain won, Prethcer would not be forcasting a Depression, as he does now:
Prechter, speaking at the Reuters Investment Outlook Summit in New York, said he sees investors’ confidence in an economic rebound fading, a trend that will drag the S&P 500 stock index .SPX well below the March 6 intraday low of 666.79 by the end of this year or early next.
“There will be a leg down in stock prices, and it will affect all other areas,” including corporate bonds and commodities, said Prechter, who is executive officer at research company Elliott Wave International, based in Gainesville, Georgia.
Prechter, who is known for his bearish views, has repeatedly forecast a steep decline in stocks this year, even as the stock market has rebounded from 12-year lows set in March as optimism about an economic recovery has risen.
Despite the government and Federal Reserve’s massive rescues for financial companies and securities markets, Prechter expects credit markets to clam up again as they did in the first phase of the global financial crisis and for the U.S. economy to sink into a depression.
http://reuters.com/article/InvestmentOutlook09/idUSTRE55E6BM20090615
What a surprise! The thread is a party political clusterfuck. The elites really have ya’ll bent over and taking it up the jexy with this dem vs repub charade.
The only thing that would have been different is that America wouldn’t have shown that it has overcome its racist past by electing a black president. All the other shit is the same.
#103
Did you mean a racist black president?
#104 All racism aside…as the public experiences what Obama has done to the economy…the chances of another radical like him getting close to Presidency…will be nil.
I take it back…that McCain would have done Cap & Trade and ruined the economy…he is not doctrinaire…he would have delayed implementing it…knowing the economy couldn’t handle it.
#104 I did not. What the hell are you on about?
#107 Although the media didn’t vet Obama…it became known he was a community organizer, friend of W. Ayers…radical left…and his pastor of 20+ years, whom he applauded every Sunday, is also a loon.
Yet the public elected him anyway, believing him to be pragmatic…the anti Bush candidate.
But he is not pragmatic…as his refusal to acknowledge the surge worked, proves…he is doctrinaire left…and the left wanted its agenda passed so bad…they BET (“guessed”, Biden) the economy would heal itself like it always has…so they passed their PORKULUS bill containing all their loony political programs…and nothing for really combating the recession.
As the public realizes putting the most inexperienced doctrinaire leftist into to the presidency at this time of crises, was the worst possible thing they could do, they will turn against every thing left…or they totalitarianism will reign…
That’s the only two possibilities remaining…we either return to what works…or we fall into dictatorship.
#103 Hugh Ripper
I could have sworn my Burma Shave comment was apolitical.
#108 Alfred1.
Your talking shit, mate. The Bush years were just a dictatorial as the present. Obama is centre-left at best. The fact that you’re to the right of Genghis Khan does not make him far left.
#110, Hugh,
Relax dude, Alphie is normal. The rest of us are totally fucked.
#101, Liberty Loser,
You wouldn’t know sarcasim if it bit your butt.
Second, it wasn’t the government that stole the first election, it was the Supreme Court.
Third, it was Republican operatives and party members that thwarted efforts by citizens to vote.
I am sorry you are too ignorant of recent history to differentiate the facts.
Re:#109, qb… I laughed out loud (really) when I read your Burma Shave post (#4). Good one.
What’s also very amusing is that the numbering of posts got advanced by 1 somehow (starting somewhere before #40?) , and after that the references to posts read like Mad magazine. I suggest everyone use names as well as #’s when referencing a post.
Alfred, I disagree that McCain would have stayed away from global warming. He is a believer. He probably would have pushed nuclear power more, but I think he would have been big on spending money to reduce usage, and passed lots of tax credits for different types of cars, insulation, heaters, etc.
If McCain is a man of his word, he would have given us more of the failed policies of Bush and the GOP.
Tax cuts for the rich, creating debt for the working people.
#113 JimR
That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.
91,
You probably don’t understand Patrick or Paddy-O’s MO. Basically, they paraphrase a comment without detail to conflate or for conjecture. Paddy-O and I go WAAAAAAAAY back on this blog, and the constant petty back and forth is what makes him him.
Unfortunately, what you failed to see is that Paddy-O sucked YOU into thinking he was creating relevant posts, when all he does is try and prove an assumption he himself has. And THAT is truly puerile. Of course, since I’m only 14, I can’t possibly understand that, right?
Again, just to go back, I was helping Paddy-O’s soul mate Alfred1 understand that America was not founded as a democracy, but a Republic and the Republic ended sometime in 1933 and became a part-Republic, part-Democracy, and that Democracy might NOT be the best political system in the world. Especially when Alfred1 and Paddy-O can both vote in it. In fact, I LIKE Paddy-O’s comments. No one can paraphrase and conflate like he can. In fact, he is a TRUE troll. Anyhoo, Paddy-O took that as meaning that America (FUCK-YEAH!) sucks, and Alfred, the guy who quotes King James scripture both lost the plot. I tried to help them along, but it was useless. Name calling was all that was left…
See ya!
#166 wtf is a Burma Shave anyway (too lazy to google). We don’t have them (it?) down under.
http://tinyurl.com/nlkmz2
First off, the guy who wrote the article is just as delusional as anyone else who thinks at this point in time, there is any difference between the two parties.
That makes the article null and void.
Since the seeds for the whole collapse were planted decades ago by the bankers, the (scripted) end result would have been exactly the same. -via a slightly different rhetoric, of course.
The only difference would have been the colour of wool used to pull over the public’s eyes.
-and of course, as #1 said, the speeches would have probably been lousy.
Both parties are mere shadows of their former selves. they have been completely corrupted, are morally bankrupt, have nary a scruple amongst them and have completely chucked the Constitution to the wind.
Both parties need to be sent to the gulag for high treason for running this country to the ground…along with the MSM..
..and possibly, dare I say, Us -the American People, for being sleepwalking putzes through it all.
-partially, because we believe, hook line and sinker, whatever the talking hand puppet of the day on TV tells us.
No, there would have been no difference if McCain was in office..or your Grandmother..
Why? because on top of all the other crap bubbling to the surface, there is still a 23 to 300+ Trillion Dollar (toxic) Derivative Bomb out there who’s fuse has disappeared and about to pop come August, maybe September.
Try as he may, Mr. Geitner does not have enough printing presses, nor Obama enough charm, to get us out of this one.
(some say quadrillion)
-s