In an related item:
The man who leaked the real election results from the Interior Ministry – the ones showing Ahmadinejad coming third – was killed in a suspicious car accident, according to unconfirmed reports, writes Saeed Kamali Dehghan in Tehran.
Mohammad Asgari, who was responsible for the security of the IT network in Iran’s interior ministry, was killed yesterday in Tehran. Asgari had reportedly leaked results that showed the elections were rigged by government use of new software to alter the votes from the provinces. Asgari was said to have leaked information that showed Mousavi had won almost 19 million votes, and should therefore be president. We will try to get more details later.
Sometimes an accident is just an accident, and sometimes an accident is an assassination.
Sorry, 56 i meant 55
Conspiracies be dammed…the Iranians genuinely want freedom from oppression…the mullahs are analogous to ecotyrants…they insist everyone eat, drink, wear, think, what is politically correct, green, or in their case, “Islamic.”
Living under the mullahs is like living under a leftist regime…everything is controlled…regulated, taxed, or prohibited…
Life sucks under both leftists and mullahs:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.- C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock
#60
The Iranians know exactly what freedom is. It’s freedom from being suppressed by the neocon western elite. And,unlike a lot of Americans they know their history. Google “Operation Ajax” and learn how free the US wanted Iran. A few thousand CIA duped Iranians does not make a revolution.This could be done in any counrty.The neocon don’t give a Shxx about their freedom or yours. We’re all just a bunch of peasants, cannon fodder in their minds. Money and power is all that matters to them.
60,
Don’t play with Alfred1. He cannot comprehend anything outside of King James scripture and his own fantasyland…
He sure does make a fun poster though!
I did like your posting from Hersh. I recalled reading that when it first came along and I thought “Georgia!”. Remember the tie-eating freedom loving President from Georgia? He forgot what it meant to be a “friend” of the US when things go wrong.
#59–Alfie==that quote sounds like god hisself!!
If we recognize BOTH parties are no damn good as BOTH overtax and generally provide too little in return, then the only real open question is once you are raped, do you prefer to be kicked or kissed?
#59, Alphie,
Living under the mullahs is like living under a leftist regime…
Only different. It is actually more like living under an extreme right wing government. WAIT !!! It is! It is! It is living under a right wing government!!!
Life sucks under both leftists and mullahs:
We all know you suck, which is your choice. But, trust me, the progressives don’t really care who you suck provided they are at least 18 and consent.
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When did C.S. Lewis become some mentor or philosopher to be regarded as worthy of being quoted? The guy was a children book writer because he couldn’t cut it as an adult book writer.
Secondly, Lewis wrote that during the height of WWII about the Nazis. In case you never heard of the Nazis, they were this right wing political movement that took over and conquered much of Europe 1937-1945. They lost, like all strong religious and right wing movements.
#63 You Canadian?
#62 I like the country as set up by the Founders…the way it was before FDR diminished Federalism…
It was free, and if a particular state wasn’t to your liking, there were 49 others to move to…each state was like a different country…the Feds only controlled the military.
Now left loon tyranny follows you no matter what state you live in.
#60 Arguing with yourself again…what happens when you loose…twitching?
#64
You Iranian?
#67 I thought so, you aren’t American…that’s all I need to know.
#61 When grabbing your ankles I bet the Daisy Chain knows what you were “named”
65,
Do you even KNOW what Federalism means? You know nothing about the history of your country… Your states INCORPORATED to become part of FEDERAL government, which is in Washington, DC. Before that, it was a Republic. You are a complete tool.
And Alfred1 is getting angered up. Good times ahead!
And Alfred1, why do you like talking about grabbing ankles? Is that the way your priest requests your position at the altar for administering his holy communion to you?
#65, Alphie,
#62 I like the country as set up by the Founders…the way it was before FDR diminished Federalism…
It was free, and if a particular state wasn’t to your liking, there were 49 others to move to…each state was like a different country…the Feds only controlled the military.
Uummm, Alphie, the way the country was set up not everyone could vote. You had to own property first. You had to be a male. You had to be white. Many places you also had to be a practicing Christian. Shenanigans to keep people off the voting list were rampant. AND, there was no such thing as a secret ballot; everyone knew who you voted for and often would retaliate against those who “voted wrong”. Votes were often sold for a little as a drink of whiskey.
Slavery was quite common and legal. And socially and morally acceptable. As was indentured servitude.
Because there was so little infrastructure, it often took weeks to travel as little as 100 miles. People had to live near rivers and the Atlantic as they were the only transportation corridors. That kept raw materials unexploited and industry retarded.
The lack of infrastructure meant the dumping of raw sewage into streets and rivers. Epidemics of easily controlled diseases swept every city and town. NOTE:, Washington lost several times more men to disease caused by poor sanitation then he did in battle.
I could go on but I’ll let these suffice for your perfect little world. I seriously wonder what kind of person would really want to live in a world like that?
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Then we get to Roosevelt. Ok, so what did he do to Federalism? Oh, somehow he changed everything for the worse? 12 years of right wing Republicanism and the country fell into and languished in a terrible depression.
But that was Roosevelt’s fault. Just like eight years of neo-con Republicanism has given us a bad recession and it is all Obama’s fault.
The song never changes.
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BTW, when the United States was created, there were only 10 States. Well, really nine, but Rhode Island does refer to itself as a State and not a Plantation. Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia were, and still are, Commonwealths. In FDR’s day, there were just 44 States. Kentucky also became a Commonwealth and not a State. Regardless of how you count them, there never were 49 States during the “Founding Fathers” era.
#68, Alphie,
My citizenship is irrelevant, but to wither your hard on, my passport says I’m American.
wow, North Korea and Iran are careening out of control. What a surprise that the two countries being used to create a proxy war with the U.S. by China and Russia have turned into twin Frankensteins and are running amok.
Bring out the pitchforks!
#72, Alphie,
When grabbing your ankles I bet the Daisy Chain knows what you were “named”
Alphie, we don’t care about your sexual orientation. Who you f**k or s**k is your business, as long as he is at least 18 and consents. The details we don’t want to hear about.
#75 Mr Fusion, we can make you a honorary Canadian if you want. But watch out, we might make you use the metric system.
alfred, hates Canadians. I feel so proud. Excuse me, I’m starting to tear up…..
Just had to laugh out loud in this blog here. Some of the comments are hilarious from the 100% Bush supporters bashing anything and anyone to the comment about CNN being the real news.
This is truly one of the few places I get a good laugh from what seemed like intelligent users. It’s way different then your other blogs that’s for sure
What I’m saying is I like it here and it’s all good
# 21 jim said, “I not buying any of this “revolution” shite. This is just like every other color revolution. Textbook CIA.”
There are intel assets from quite a few countries “helping this one along”. Since Obama can’t really say what he is having our Gov do, it’s kinda hard to criticize or praise him, at this point.