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		<title>By: jopa</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/22/arrested-for-asking-a-policeman-for-his-badge-number/comment-page-2/#comment-1544366</link>
		<dc:creator>jopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Choke the liberal whore!!
Choke her!!!

Bwahahahahhaa!!!!
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choke the liberal whore!!<br />
Choke her!!!</p>
<p>Bwahahahahhaa!!!!<br />
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		<title>By: Rick's Cafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick's Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32
Hitting the nail on the head.  

So who&#039;s responsible for having the police standing there taking abuse instead of being out actually protecting citizens, chasing perps, etc. HMMMMMMM?????  

A peaceful protest doesn&#039;t need a police presence - anybody can make a 911 call IF the protest turns non-peaceful.

Rings a bell that the CIA &amp; KGB were both accused of &#039;participating&#039; in protests throughout the world during the cold war.  

Cause, peaceful protests are boring and bored people go home.

So IF officers have to be identified (questionable legality) then all the officers recorded are breaking the law by not enforcing the identification requirement.  

Question:  What happens when a video shows several officers breaking the law?

Answer: Rodney King. There are too many lawyers in all countries for that process NOT to happen.

I&#039;m thinking the cute little sea-kitten&#039;s litter box might need changing again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32<br />
Hitting the nail on the head.  </p>
<p>So who&#8217;s responsible for having the police standing there taking abuse instead of being out actually protecting citizens, chasing perps, etc. HMMMMMMM?????  </p>
<p>A peaceful protest doesn&#8217;t need a police presence &#8211; anybody can make a 911 call IF the protest turns non-peaceful.</p>
<p>Rings a bell that the CIA &amp; KGB were both accused of &#8216;participating&#8217; in protests throughout the world during the cold war.  </p>
<p>Cause, peaceful protests are boring and bored people go home.</p>
<p>So IF officers have to be identified (questionable legality) then all the officers recorded are breaking the law by not enforcing the identification requirement.  </p>
<p>Question:  What happens when a video shows several officers breaking the law?</p>
<p>Answer: Rodney King. There are too many lawyers in all countries for that process NOT to happen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the cute little sea-kitten&#8217;s litter box might need changing again.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 18 Greg Allen

&quot;cops are bastards for using that choke-hold and pressure-point technique, too. A certain percentage of people are going to die from that.&quot;

And your point is?  

Cops know they are protected by the &quot;outs&quot; given by Judges and corners who work for the police.

If there is a resulting death, so what; the state corner will claim a pre-existing medical condition or the perpetrator had an illegal substance in their system and that is what killed the perpetrator, not the genteel and caring actions of our police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 18 Greg Allen</p>
<p>&#8220;cops are bastards for using that choke-hold and pressure-point technique, too. A certain percentage of people are going to die from that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And your point is?  </p>
<p>Cops know they are protected by the &#8220;outs&#8221; given by Judges and corners who work for the police.</p>
<p>If there is a resulting death, so what; the state corner will claim a pre-existing medical condition or the perpetrator had an illegal substance in their system and that is what killed the perpetrator, not the genteel and caring actions of our police.</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like the usual situation where the cops have had to deal with the same assholes over and over again and finally get pissed and overstep their bounds... probably just what the protesters with their video camera wanted in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like the usual situation where the cops have had to deal with the same assholes over and over again and finally get pissed and overstep their bounds&#8230; probably just what the protesters with their video camera wanted in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: jbellies</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbellies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a police video (obtained ??? under freedom of information legislation???), so one guesses that heads were blurred out by the Police so as not to blow the covers of certain undercover officers.  Not all the heads were blurred out.

It&#039;s good that a citizen can get the name and badge number of each officer who presents him- or herself to the citizen, but it looks like this was a kind of pre-emptive raid: did they go where the police were congregating and try to collect *all* the names and badge numbers?  That might indeed be a kind of obstruction.  Annoying a police officer.  But the police reaction looks OTT (that&#039;s Blighty for &quot;Over The Top&quot;).

To our shame, Canada has this trumped by killing a man who was trapped in an airport and anxious to meet his elderly mother who was waiting for him.

And Canada again has the Sandra Turner incident:
http://tinyurl.com/n53y4m
where an airport security guard was arrested and strip-searched for asking a man dressed as a police officer for ID, completely in accordance with her instructions from her employer.  The link is to the Wayback Machine (Go* bless it) because the original article was taken down in the last couple of years.  It was even on the national radio news at the time it happened, but there was a curious media silence on it afterwards.  For years, the Globe article was the only mainstream reference available, and then even it disappeared.  We don&#039;t even known if she received an apology.  Oh yes, and Sandra Turner is Black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a police video (obtained ??? under freedom of information legislation???), so one guesses that heads were blurred out by the Police so as not to blow the covers of certain undercover officers.  Not all the heads were blurred out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good that a citizen can get the name and badge number of each officer who presents him- or herself to the citizen, but it looks like this was a kind of pre-emptive raid: did they go where the police were congregating and try to collect *all* the names and badge numbers?  That might indeed be a kind of obstruction.  Annoying a police officer.  But the police reaction looks OTT (that&#8217;s Blighty for &#8220;Over The Top&#8221;).</p>
<p>To our shame, Canada has this trumped by killing a man who was trapped in an airport and anxious to meet his elderly mother who was waiting for him.</p>
<p>And Canada again has the Sandra Turner incident:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/n53y4m" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/n53y4m' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/n53y4m</a><br />
where an airport security guard was arrested and strip-searched for asking a man dressed as a police officer for ID, completely in accordance with her instructions from her employer.  The link is to the Wayback Machine (Go* bless it) because the original article was taken down in the last couple of years.  It was even on the national radio news at the time it happened, but there was a curious media silence on it afterwards.  For years, the Globe article was the only mainstream reference available, and then even it disappeared.  We don&#8217;t even known if she received an apology.  Oh yes, and Sandra Turner is Black.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say just don&#039;t build the power plant, and let the environmentalists figure out how to light their homes, cook their food, and get to work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say just don&#8217;t build the power plant, and let the environmentalists figure out how to light their homes, cook their food, and get to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ECD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup, that&#039;s what happens when you give pigs unlimited authority. They get annoyed and they start beating people &quot;legally&quot;. The idiots on this blog who say she is an instigator have no respect for the rule of law. You&#039;re not supposed to arrested someone unless they did something ILLEGAL, dumb ass. These cops should be put in prison for a year and be banned from any kind of public service indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup, that&#8217;s what happens when you give pigs unlimited authority. They get annoyed and they start beating people &#8220;legally&#8221;. The idiots on this blog who say she is an instigator have no respect for the rule of law. You&#8217;re not supposed to arrested someone unless they did something ILLEGAL, dumb ass. These cops should be put in prison for a year and be banned from any kind of public service indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: gmknobl</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmknobl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>power corrupts - and increasingly more so when it comes to police 

photograph, video and distribute then use to prosecute these poor examples for humans and make them loose their badge and any position of authority</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>power corrupts &#8211; and increasingly more so when it comes to police </p>
<p>photograph, video and distribute then use to prosecute these poor examples for humans and make them loose their badge and any position of authority</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were abusive and resisting arrest. In the US they&#039;d have been handcuffed at gunpoint and then tasered repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were abusive and resisting arrest. In the US they&#8217;d have been handcuffed at gunpoint and then tasered repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Breetai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breetai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve noticed a trend here. 

Conservatives are in charge, foreigners get tortured and abused.  Liberals are in charge, the locals get tortured and abused.

Can we fire everybody in government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve noticed a trend here. </p>
<p>Conservatives are in charge, foreigners get tortured and abused.  Liberals are in charge, the locals get tortured and abused.</p>
<p>Can we fire everybody in government?</p>
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		<title>By: xxxxxxxxxxxx</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/22/arrested-for-asking-a-policeman-for-his-badge-number/comment-page-2/#comment-1543628</link>
		<dc:creator>xxxxxxxxxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey do you have a bigger pic of your banner hittler whould be proud. i want to stick it on my car. whould cause some heads to turn to.

bloody dispickable, still what do you expect when you give checkout workers power. pure madness.

shame on united kindom and there people for puting up with this. well done on pissing on vetrans graves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey do you have a bigger pic of your banner hittler whould be proud. i want to stick it on my car. whould cause some heads to turn to.</p>
<p>bloody dispickable, still what do you expect when you give checkout workers power. pure madness.</p>
<p>shame on united kindom and there people for puting up with this. well done on pissing on vetrans graves.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok,... this isn&#039;t some innocent bystander asking a polite question which I thought might be the case.  They do come off as known agent provacateur&#039;s and basically went looking for trouble.  They asked for it.  This wasn&#039;t the first time they tangled with the police.  

Sorry, not buying the sobbing innocent act.  They sould stop crying wolf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok,&#8230; this isn&#8217;t some innocent bystander asking a polite question which I thought might be the case.  They do come off as known agent provacateur&#8217;s and basically went looking for trouble.  They asked for it.  This wasn&#8217;t the first time they tangled with the police.  </p>
<p>Sorry, not buying the sobbing innocent act.  They sould stop crying wolf.</p>
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		<title>By: GigG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GigG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell is a &quot;climate camp&quot;? It sounds like someplace where the attedees need to be choked by the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is a &#8220;climate camp&#8221;? It sounds like someplace where the attedees need to be choked by the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Improbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Improbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops are dicks ... film at 11 ... unless it is confiscated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops are dicks &#8230; film at 11 &#8230; unless it is confiscated.</p>
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		<title>By: Barister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It starts with cameras on buildings and the government saying they are protection for law abiding citizens. Look out America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It starts with cameras on buildings and the government saying they are protection for law abiding citizens. Look out America.</p>
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