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Obama addresses a meeting of millionaires

Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind one of the most contentious proposals Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

The poll found that most Americans would be willing to pay higher taxes so everyone could have health insurance and that they said the government could do a better job of holding down health-care costs than the private sector.

Across a number of questions, the poll detected substantial support for a greater government role in health care, a position generally identified with the Democratic Party. When asked which party was more likely to improve health care, only 18 percent of respondents said the Republicans, compared with 57 percent who picked the Democrats. Even one of four Republicans said the Democrats would do better…

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Congressional Republicans say “NO”

Republicans in Congress have fiercely criticized the proposal as an unneeded expansion of government that might evolve into a system of nationalized health coverage and lead to the rationing of care.

But in the poll, the proposal received broad bipartisan backing, with half of those who call themselves Republicans saying they would support a public plan, along with nearly three-fourths of independents and almost nine in 10 Democrats…

They clearly indicate growing confidence in the government’s ability to manage health care. Half of those questioned said they thought government would be better at providing medical coverage than private insurers, up from 30 percent in polls conducted in 2007. Nearly 60 percent said Washington would have more success in holding down costs, up from 47 percent.

Why should anyone have confidence in insurance companies? Is there anyone left who hasn’t been screwed by their automobile insurance, homeowners coverage, medical insurance company? We all know these slimeballs would steal their mother’s purse if they could skive another 5% from a settlement.




  1. Sea Lawyer says:

    #126, Fusion, who was blaming Gore? I was giving him credit for pushing the regulatory reforms that happened. I still remember him going on Letterman when he was running for VP in 1992 and demonstrating the $100 (I’ve made that number up obviously) ashtrays that the government was required to buy. Things are MUCH better than they used to be.

  2. Sea Lawyer says:

    Above was directed at #216.

  3. Sea Lawyer says:

    #216, and yes, of course, if you really need a specially made hammer, then that is what you need. But if you are just hammering nails for a construction project, then any old hammer will likely do. The problem was that everything that was procured had to be specced, which greatly increased the costs, as you very accurately detailed. But that mandatory requirement is no longer in place these days.

  4. #220 – LL,

    I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks.

  5. Uncle Patso says:

    225th!

    # 180 Mr. Fusion said, in part:

    “I hope Aunty is feeling better. My best to her.”

    Much better; thank you kindly.

  6. Mr. Fusion says:

    #223, SL,

    As I understand, there are three levels of specs. The first are consumer items which must be the same as what is sold to consumers. Things such as bar soap and food. These are generally “off the shelf” items for general use.

    The next level are items for government use and must meet higher, stricter requirements. Uniforms, writing pens and paper, desks, furniture, etc.

    The third are mission critical use. Everything used in an airplane is mission critical. I remember Senator Proxmire (sp) years ago railed about the $600 ashtray without mentioning how it had to meet this requirement. As I recall these ashtrays were for use in very long range patrol aircraft and the number required was very few.

    All civilian aircraft are under similar requirements, only they get more a little more leeway as they can transfer the item over many planes.

  7. Patrick says:

    # 191 Misanthropic Scott said, “You’re still missing the point. It’s the CEO of United Healthcare earning $130,000,000/yr who is robbing you blind.”

    Nope, not if I’m not buying. My choice, not yours. YOU are missing the point about freedom and why this country was founded in the 1st place…

  8. #227 – Patrick,

    So, are you honestly saying you do not have health insurance?

    I would think you’d be smart enough to select a plan from among those Radio Shack is offering this year.

    If it’s not United Healthcare robbing you blind, then it’s BC/BS or Aetna or CIGNA or some other health insurance company. I’m sure yours also pays the CEO an obscene amount of money for the express purpose of denying health care to their insureds.

    http://tinyurl.com/6d8jww

  9. Patrick says:

    #228 Address the point Scott. It is NOT the gov’s job to tell what I must buy for my personal use. Face it your argument is having the Fed gov do something that is blatantly unconstitutional. If you can’t address my point don’t bother typing.

  10. #229 – PatDick,

    That’s funny as all hell. You ignore my point while asserting that I have ignored yours. You’re an even bigger ass than I thought.

    Do you or do you not have health insurance?



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