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		<title>By: Rick's Cafe</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545592</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick's Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar, but slightly different topic from our wonderful medical system up north.  As I&#039;ve said in the past, giving away existing checks and balances to a bureaucracy is a scary thought.
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Manitoba chiefs angered by delay in sanitizers
Updated Tue. Jun. 23 2009 11:53 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

First Nations leaders in Manitoba have slammed federal health officials, after a report said Health Canada delayed shipping hand sanitizers to reserves because the products contained alcohol.
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It&#039;s a lengthy article, but ya all get the gist of where it&#039;s heading.

I suspect the reason we don&#039;t hear more of these stories is NOT because the stories don&#039;t exist, but rather that it would be just as uncommon to subscribe to a Canadian newspaper for the sole purpose of gathering local information as it would for a local editor USA to include it in his paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar, but slightly different topic from our wonderful medical system up north.  As I&#8217;ve said in the past, giving away existing checks and balances to a bureaucracy is a scary thought.<br />
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Manitoba chiefs angered by delay in sanitizers<br />
Updated Tue. Jun. 23 2009 11:53 PM ET</p>
<p>CTV.ca News Staff</p>
<p>First Nations leaders in Manitoba have slammed federal health officials, after a report said Health Canada delayed shipping hand sanitizers to reserves because the products contained alcohol.<br />
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It&#8217;s a lengthy article, but ya all get the gist of where it&#8217;s heading.</p>
<p>I suspect the reason we don&#8217;t hear more of these stories is NOT because the stories don&#8217;t exist, but rather that it would be just as uncommon to subscribe to a Canadian newspaper for the sole purpose of gathering local information as it would for a local editor USA to include it in his paper.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545561</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#184, sac and fusion are the same person.  Don&#039;t deny it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#184, sac and fusion are the same person.  Don&#8217;t deny it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545404</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#176, Liberty Loser,

&lt;i&gt;If so, then you should report them if they aren’t paying their taxes. It’s the law to report any known law breakers.&lt;/i&gt;

I am not responsible for my friends taxes. They are one of the most private things in our society. Why, I don&#039;t really know.

I can just picture you advising others on how they should pay their taxes. 

I think sac (#179) got it right. You are a hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#176, Liberty Loser,</p>
<p><i>If so, then you should report them if they aren’t paying their taxes. It’s the law to report any known law breakers.</i></p>
<p>I am not responsible for my friends taxes. They are one of the most private things in our society. Why, I don&#8217;t really know.</p>
<p>I can just picture you advising others on how they should pay their taxes. </p>
<p>I think sac (#179) got it right. You are a hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545366</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 180 sac said,  &quot;I see a lot more outrageous bumper stickers coming close to advocating armed rebellion. It seems the right wing nuts can’t handle democracy.&quot;

Which is just following the advice of the Founding Fathers in the event that the gov&#039;t far exceeded its limits as found in the constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 180 sac said,  &#8220;I see a lot more outrageous bumper stickers coming close to advocating armed rebellion. It seems the right wing nuts can’t handle democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is just following the advice of the Founding Fathers in the event that the gov&#8217;t far exceeded its limits as found in the constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545352</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#180,  Hey!  That&#039;s almost what King George said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#180,  Hey!  That&#8217;s almost what King George said.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545351</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#179,

Willful failure to pay your taxes is a felony.  If you know you have to pay your taxes, and you don&#039;t, you are committing a felony.

If you attempt to help someone not pay their taxes, you are guilty of Misprison.

Granted, it is a fine line between &quot;helping&quot; someone avoid a tax and just &quot;turning a blind eye.&quot;

However, as a self-proclaimed liberal, you should be encouraging your friends to pay their fair share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#179,</p>
<p>Willful failure to pay your taxes is a felony.  If you know you have to pay your taxes, and you don&#8217;t, you are committing a felony.</p>
<p>If you attempt to help someone not pay their taxes, you are guilty of Misprison.</p>
<p>Granted, it is a fine line between &#8220;helping&#8221; someone avoid a tax and just &#8220;turning a blind eye.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, as a self-proclaimed liberal, you should be encouraging your friends to pay their fair share.</p>
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		<title>By: sac</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545320</link>
		<dc:creator>sac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#178, Liberty Poser,

&lt;i&gt;I am seeing more and more Libertarian bumper stickers on the road.&lt;/i&gt;

And again the right wing will be split allowing the Democrats to win handily.

I do have to comment though, I see a lot more outrageous bumper stickers coming close to advocating armed rebellion. It seems the right wing nuts can&#039;t handle democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#178, Liberty Poser,</p>
<p><i>I am seeing more and more Libertarian bumper stickers on the road.</i></p>
<p>And again the right wing will be split allowing the Democrats to win handily.</p>
<p>I do have to comment though, I see a lot more outrageous bumper stickers coming close to advocating armed rebellion. It seems the right wing nuts can&#8217;t handle democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: sac</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545318</link>
		<dc:creator>sac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#176, Liberty Poser,

&lt;i&gt;It’s the law to report any known law breakers.&lt;/i&gt;

Bullshit. Just more of the right wing nuts making up shit again.

&lt;i&gt;I couldn’t give a rat’s ass if they are paying their taxes or not. &lt;/i&gt;

But by your standard, you admit breaking the law. I guess that makes you the hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#176, Liberty Poser,</p>
<p><i>It’s the law to report any known law breakers.</i></p>
<p>Bullshit. Just more of the right wing nuts making up shit again.</p>
<p><i>I couldn’t give a rat’s ass if they are paying their taxes or not. </i></p>
<p>But by your standard, you admit breaking the law. I guess that makes you the hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545308</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#175,  

Disease? No.  

Awakening? Yes.  People are fed up with their tax money going to crap they aren&#039;t happy with.  When over 75% of the people told the reps/sens to NOT vote for it and are then ignored, well, it&#039;s either torches and pitchforks or a new attitude about government.

And it&#039;s just not here.  I am seeing more and more Libertarian bumper stickers on the road.  It&#039;s going to be interesting electiona in 2010/12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#175,  </p>
<p>Disease? No.  </p>
<p>Awakening? Yes.  People are fed up with their tax money going to crap they aren&#8217;t happy with.  When over 75% of the people told the reps/sens to NOT vote for it and are then ignored, well, it&#8217;s either torches and pitchforks or a new attitude about government.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s just not here.  I am seeing more and more Libertarian bumper stickers on the road.  It&#8217;s going to be interesting electiona in 2010/12.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545300</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 171 LibertyLover said,  &quot;#170, Haven’t I said that? I swear I said that. Did you hear me say that?&quot;

You are communicating to people who don&#039;t fit the following ideal:

&quot;The most effectual means of preventing [the perversion of power into tyranny are] to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes.&quot; --Thomas Jefferson:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 171 LibertyLover said,  &#8220;#170, Haven’t I said that? I swear I said that. Did you hear me say that?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are communicating to people who don&#8217;t fit the following ideal:</p>
<p>&#8220;The most effectual means of preventing [the perversion of power into tyranny are] to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes.&#8221; &#8211;Thomas Jefferson:</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545296</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#175, Do you consider it the law that someone should pay their taxes?

If so, then you should report them if they aren&#039;t paying their taxes.  It&#039;s the law to report any known law breakers.

If you don&#039;t then you are also breaking the law.  And how many times have you said that if it&#039;s the law of the land, everybody should abide by it?

However, if you don&#039;t consider it the law you should pay your taxes (there is ample evidence to support that theory), then you are ok.

fusion, I&#039;m doing nothing but pointing out your hypocrisy.

You want the law to apply to everyone except yourself.  It&#039;s easier to stand on your pedestal and preach the virtues of altruism than it is to actually put them into practice.

Personally, I couldn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass if they are paying their taxes or not.  I applaud you for your civil disobedience.  Obviously you are a closet Libertarian.  It&#039;s ok.  You don&#039;t have to feel guilty about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#175, Do you consider it the law that someone should pay their taxes?</p>
<p>If so, then you should report them if they aren&#8217;t paying their taxes.  It&#8217;s the law to report any known law breakers.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t then you are also breaking the law.  And how many times have you said that if it&#8217;s the law of the land, everybody should abide by it?</p>
<p>However, if you don&#8217;t consider it the law you should pay your taxes (there is ample evidence to support that theory), then you are ok.</p>
<p>fusion, I&#8217;m doing nothing but pointing out your hypocrisy.</p>
<p>You want the law to apply to everyone except yourself.  It&#8217;s easier to stand on your pedestal and preach the virtues of altruism than it is to actually put them into practice.</p>
<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass if they are paying their taxes or not.  I applaud you for your civil disobedience.  Obviously you are a closet Libertarian.  It&#8217;s ok.  You don&#8217;t have to feel guilty about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545275</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#173, Liberty Poser,

Typical Liebertarian. Stay out of your business but interfere in others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#173, Liberty Poser,</p>
<p>Typical Liebertarian. Stay out of your business but interfere in others.</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1545177</link>
		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the libertarian disease is strong in this thread.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the libertarian disease is strong in this thread.  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1544937</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#172, &lt;i&gt;It is not my duty to advise anyone of their legal obligations.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, so you haven&#039;t told them.

tsk, tsk.  Bad Liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#172, <i>It is not my duty to advise anyone of their legal obligations.</i></p>
<p>Ah, so you haven&#8217;t told them.</p>
<p>tsk, tsk.  Bad Liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/06/23/a-look-a-massachusetts-health-care-reform/comment-page-4/#comment-1544934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#160, Liberty Poser,

It is not my duty to advise anyone of their legal obligations. It would appear that you have been and will knowingly continue to avoid paying your taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#160, Liberty Poser,</p>
<p>It is not my duty to advise anyone of their legal obligations. It would appear that you have been and will knowingly continue to avoid paying your taxes.</p>
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