Worth a listen. Not that it will change anything.

Found by Tim Yates.




  1. MikeN says:

    By the way, the bill as passed, have all these scientists with the models telling us the world will warm by 2-5C if this is not passed, have they told us how much the world will warm if this bill is passed?

    The answer is approximately 2-5C

  2. Jägermeister says:

    #38 – Mark T. – Nope, I know of no jet engine that runs on hydrogen. There are a couple of experimental prop planes that use hydrogen but, from what I can gather, they are basically powered gliders with speeds of less than 80 mph.

    Read up on ramjet and scramjet.

    Only twelve walked on the Moon.

    But they did it, despite all the naysayers.

  3. Jägermeister says:

    #38 – Mark T. – Nope, I know of no jet engine that runs on hydrogen. There are a couple of experimental prop planes that use hydrogen but, from what I can gather, they are basically powered gliders with speeds of less than 80 mph.

    Read up on ramjet and scramjet.

    Only twelve walked on the Moon.

    But they did it, despite all the naysayers.

  4. Jägermeister says:

    # 41 MikeN – ….have they told us how much the world will warm if this bill is passed?

    The answer is approximately 2-5C

    And I’m sure you got this from… a scientist, right?

  5. Alfred1 says:

    Honorable Mary Bono Mack

    It is unconscionable to raise taxes during this economic meltdown.

    No one voted for you to deal with global warming or enrich wall street firms via cap & trade schemes.

    As Pres. Bill Clinton once said, “its the economy stupid.”

    Unlike previous years, I and many others are really paying attention to votes, and unlike previous years we won’t be automatically voting republican…

    The only joy we will have, as we sift through the trash looking for recyclables, jobless and hungry, is the fact we voted you bums out, and dispatched special prosecutors to investigate your connection to the bail out money that has so enriched wall street.

    I will vote for whoever runs against you, even if its Fidel Castro himself, and I will urge my fellow Republicans to do the same…better a Democrat who admits they are such, than a RINO democrat who fools us for votes.

    sincerely
    al

  6. Mark T. says:

    Jägermeister:

    Wow, you really are optimistic. Both the ramjet and scramjet are hypersonic engines. The ramjet uses the supersonic shockwave generated by supersonic flight speeds to compress the air for combustion thereby eliminating the turbine. Ramjets basically work between mach 3 and 5. You still need a conventional engine to get off the ground and up to ramjet operating speeds. In other words, you need a SR-71 just to get going fast enough so that you can START the ramjet.

    The scramjet is even more exotic and has only been demonstrated (to my knowledge) by test engines mounted on the tips of ballistic missiles. Scramjets basically work in the mach 12 and higher realm. They are the best bet for designing an air breathing engine that can reach orbit.

    Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see hypersonic mach 12 commercial aircraft. The only problem is that it will never happen (at least not in our lifetime). The dangers are too high. It is simply to radical for flying grandma to Pokipsee.

    Face it. There will be no quantum leaps in commercial aircraft propulsion in the foreseeable future without something like nuclear propulsion or lightweight batteries that can store megawatts of power. Kerosene is SO much simpler.

    Politicians are counting on giant tax revenue being generated from these carbon taxes. They know that there is no feasible alternative so WE WILL BE FORCED TO PAY THE TAX OR DO WITHOUT.

  7. Jägermeister says:

    #45 – Mark T.

    I won’t drag this discussion any further. Let’s just see in the coming 20 years… If dvorak.org/blog is still around, I’ll be able to say… Hey, I told you so… ;) :)



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